This is really IT!!! If you are each getting what you want no 3rd parties needed.Originally Posted by Ebony Jasmine Love
Touch is definitely one of the 5 love languages and I am sure plenty of us would be good speaking that language to you often!!
This is really IT!!! If you are each getting what you want no 3rd parties needed.
Touch is definitely one of the 5 love languages and I am sure plenty of us would be good speaking that language to you often!!
Ayyyyyyyye
Y’all wouldn't get sick of me tho??
Still don’t know how I’d manage this possessiveness/sure go get some strange thing.
You’d pretty much have to fuck me till I’m tired (good luck), THEEEEEN, you could get some strange.
Maybe I’ll watch! Maybe don’t tell me.
But we need to be fuckin! & rich is all I’m saying.
You might actually want to go back and look at who started the thread and read the name.
And who is the only person that agrees?
You have some reading comprehension problems.
But isn't that what we all are? Just regular people?
Bloop!But isn't that what we all are? Just regular people?
A difficult hurdle to overcome, those that hold grudges over the opposite sex. Just like women who found their way into this just because they needed money and felt forced, I am sure plenty of men have some really deep seated anger towards women if those men found their way into the hobby after a divorce or a failed relationship, etc. There are a lot of broken people who make their way into the hobby, and lots of folks that would never admit they were once broken. People like to "play" and go from one person to the next, so they never have to truly open and expose their wounds to anyone one person or really get to know anyone. Vulnerability is scary. Over the long run, folks can only hide the bitterness and fear for so long, but it eventually comes out especially when the jealousy begins to rear it's ugly head. Things really can get super complicated, and more so when each partner is continuing to participate in extracurricular activities outside the relationship.Unfortunately, for many men it means only seeing a girl as a paid escort. The same is true in reverse sadly. The women, especially those who really don't like it, are too young, felt forced into it (self imposed forcing: to pay bills, take care of family, etc), and so on, end up only seeing men as a means to be paid for sex and the idea of sex without money OR a relationship (remember, those are both different things) just becomes non-existent. Quite sad. :/
I think it's extremely sad on both sides of the equation.Those are unfortunate aspects to the hobby world that play on my mind a lot.
For men it's due to a societal perspective (my hypothesis) that tells them this is wrong, good women don't do this, these are bad girls, broken, etc...
For women it's due to objectification by a great many men or bad experiences with many men over time OR compounding that with the former along with the issues of doing it at a *very* young age but being "disgusted" by it that men would want that from you, maybe even disgusted by yourself for doing it, but you needed the money, so "oh well, gotta do what ya gotta do".
I go back to what I said earlier about relationships really being centered on trust, getting to know each other, accepting faults and failures (and that includes the broken and the bitter), and I feel like if you are entering a relationship with the intention of continuing to run around and play and not really being truly vulnerable to the person you are in a relationship with, then you are not really doing anything different than what you do with everyone else in the hobby...playing around. It's superficial and none of it is real.
The hobby is the least emotionally vulnerable thing you can be involved in. A relationship is the exact opposite.
Last edited by chloevankatie; 06-09-2020 at 11:59 PM.
Only one way to find out...Ayyyyyyyye
Y’all wouldn't get sick of me tho??
As for the rest, that is where each couple has to define what the boundaries are and respect them. My personal view is relationships take time and too many label themselves as being in one far too soon...they put up rules and boundaries well before they know each other. This puts pressure on each partner they aren't really ready for yet. This is when you get hurt feelings, broken hearts, etc. Its like CVK said, relationships require extreme vulnerability (and acceptance), and that cannot be rushed.
I used to know a gent whose wife gave him a hobby allowance every month. He told me that I would have to be married 30 years to understand their agreement...30 years.
I don't think a couple can just jump into a relationship straight from the hobby and name all these relationships rules of how and when each person can sleep with other people, etc., and they barely even know each other at all. It just sounds like being fuck buddies to me, except with rules because each party is too insecure to fully commit to true vulnerability and commitment. A "relationship" based on fucking, insecurity, and control between two people who barely know each other isn't going to work.
Actually, I don't consider providers nor the people that love them "regular", quite the contrary. After being behind the curtain I witness all of the things a provider goes through on a daily basis and was mortified at the amount of BS they have to put up with. One of the guys talked about some things earlier but didn't mention some of the deeply dark things that occur. The unprompted horrible name calling, witnessed the real dangers of multiple stalkers, the avoidance of LE, scammers, robbers, stereotyping, overly aggressive clients and the list goes on. I thought it was all rainbows and lollipops until I lived it with them and saw the amount work, stress and danger involved from a providers standpoint...rinse repeat...day, after day, after day. Because I was in relationship it affected me also, exciting but very stressful.But isn't that what we all are? Just regular people?
I think it takes extraordinary people to be able to live this life and consistently secure the bag considering the absorbent amount of external factors that this type of relationship must weather.
BFE, Aspiring Stay At Home Hobbyist, Initiator Of Pleasurable Stimuli
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realistically, few men could handle it. from the hobby and the real world "men talk" i always hear it's fine for a man too see lots of women no matter if he has an so, but a woman, nope she needs to be with one man hopefully her whole life. double standard i know.
as for a provider, like other thread i commented in, hobbyist complain about other guys when their seeing a provider for just a session let alone one that is their girlfriend.
best bet.. date another woman and don't do sessions with other women. then maybe she won't be jealous.. or that rare unicorn... a guy that can handle you being a provider and dating you.. if you want him to not see other women even rarer guy..
Hrmm I suppose I agree with your first statement. Maybe so.
However I wouldn't exactly call one a "unicorn"?? Nah. Nope. And apparently that makes me an even rarer form of unicorn? Hrmm. Not so sure about that one. I didn't see anyone else when I was with providers. I actually had less need when I saw them versus my marriage. That was primarily b/c the marriage had become loveless, a marriage of "convenience", and sex "mostly" determined on her schedule of horniness and hardly ever about my feelings or attempts to initiate. The fact that she was a filth monger and never cleaned a damn thing made even the business partnership & "convenience" aspect even less appealing :/
I was going to post a semi lengthy thesis on that topic last night but decided to save that draft for editing.
I may follow up and post it now (soon) as to why I believe men stray, if they do, or this idea that they *need/require* "strange" (not true).
-MG
I agreed with everything you said but am focused on this sentence.
I would use caution in ascribing hobby activity as making it harder. For some (or many/most?) You are probably right. But it gets back to knowing the real person, and NOT the board persona. Some are here to fuck anything and everything, and that WILL require a greater adjustment. Those who are more selective and/or hobby less frequently do so for different reasons... maybe they really are renting a mini-relationship every few weeks? That adjustment should be less difficult.
Just because we're all in the same zoo doesn't make us all rutting stags...
Lol for someone officially going on 3 months today, every few weeks sounds pretty randy to me, lol
Wait wait wait.... hold up!? Chloe are you saying you haven't had sex for 3mos?! Wow. I'll happily fix that for you once you are readyFree of my usual charge too... har har har
*tease*
-MG
I was, of course, referring to periods of normalcy.
Also, you cannot see all the subforums I can, and there are some here who perhaps belong in Florida...
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