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    I generally do kinky/fetish sessions mostly anyway, so my shenanigans often aren't even illegal
    to begin with. The hard part without online boards is finding/screening both for mutual interests
    and dependability.

    It was on NPR yesterday, that because Backpage was altering/disguising child sex ads, instead of
    blocking or reporting them, that they estimate BP was complicit in 73% of the child trafficking cases
    filed worldwide over the last six years. Backpage literally fucked it up for everyone.

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    I saved contact info on those I've seen already so that's good. I'll miss eccie when it comes to looking for new providers and sharing info on reviews and such. In Ft. Worth the quantity isn't as varied as Dallas so those reviews and info were even more valuable in not wasting time and being safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by volantsolo View Post
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    It was on NPR yesterday, that because Backpage was altering/disguising child sex ads, instead of
    blocking or reporting them, that they estimate BP was complicit in 73% of the child trafficking cases
    filed worldwide over the last six years. Backpage literally fucked it up for everyone.
    Did BP not have somewhere on the order of 73% of the ****** ad dollars?
    That figure has the same credibility as the allegation that 100K trafficed, underage girls were in Dallas for Superbowl weekend. Where there's government money involved, figures swell like the federal deficit.

    Now as to SESTA, since almost all my notes and contact info were on my User CP on eccie, I am kinda fucked. Or not fucked.

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    Angry My $.02

    Losing BP and particularly ECCIE is a gut-punch, no doubt about that, even more so in a small market like I live in (MS-AL-FL Gulf Coast). We had a decent ECCIE presence and so far, very few of those ladies have surfaced. I had 12 or 13 reviews, and I don't like losing those, same goes for being able to read reviews when I'm shopping for someone new. It's particularly irritating when I'm traveling. Locally I have contact information for a few of my regular and long-term ladies, so that's all good, but I'm spending a lot of time in CA lately, and Nightshift is gone too. I'm driving out there next month, and I was planning on hobbying my way across the country and back, going to be a lot harder now. Luckily I made contact with a lady in DWF, my first stop, before the sites went down, so I'm good there. The rest of the trip......not so much.

    The thing that irritates me is the blatant stupidity behind the whole thing. They say it's to combat/fight/eliminate trafficking in underage girls (boys too I guess). Bullshit!! I'm as much opposed to victimizing children as anyone on this planet, it's one of the reasons that I pretty much always stuck with 30+ providers, but this will only make things worse for the trafficking victims. It will push the whole thing even deeper into the shadows and in the process impact a lot of adult providers who are depending on this activity for their livelihood. It will make thing LESS safe, not more so. The demand isn't going away, it'll just be riskier now. I've seen this before on a smaller scale when the old SFRedbook website in CA was shut down (seized by the feds) in the early 2000's. Lots of providers were left with only one option back then, they had to go out onto the streets. At least one lady that I used to see regularly when I lived out there was killed as a direct result. I'm sure there were more.

    If the goal was truly to reduce or eliminate trafficking, legalization or de-criminalization of prostitution would be the logical choice, but that would not satisfy the puritans and those who ***** for their votes.

    Damn!! Now I'm all pissed off!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Does It View Post
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    The thing that irritates me is the blatant stupidity behind the whole thing. They say it's to combat/fight/eliminate trafficking in underage girls (boys too I guess). Bullshit!! I'm as much opposed to victimizing children as anyone on this planet, it's one of the reasons that I pretty much always stuck with 30+ providers, but this will only make things worse for the trafficking victims. It will push the whole thing even deeper into the shadows and in the process impact a lot of adult providers who are depending on this activity for their livelihood. It will make thing LESS safe, not more so. The demand isn't going away, it'll just be riskier now. ...
    If the goal was truly to reduce or eliminate trafficking, legalization or de-criminalization of prostitution would be the logical choice, but that would not satisfy the puritans and those who ***** for their votes.

    Damn!! Now I'm all pissed off!!!
    Absolute agreement.

    Legalize it, license it, zone it, tax it. Works just fine in Nevada.

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    I'm guessing its a political/funding trick. They're lumping all sex work into "trafficking" to try and leverage more dollars in the budget because everyone wants to fund the agencies that are stopping exploitation of underage girls/boys, or anyone forced into servitude. Hell, I'll help that effort myself any way I can. But I'm betting there's not that much actual "trafficking" going on so they pool all sex work into one bucket to make their numbers look higher so they can get bigger budgets, etc.
    They are harming their ability to target actual trafficking in my opinion by 1) diluting the issue and confusing run-of-the-mill sex work with exploitive trafficking, and 2) driving that actual trafficking further underground.

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    Not working so fine in Nevada.
    Groups are trying hard to shut it down and making inroads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phytos1000 View Post
    Not working so fine in Nevada.
    Groups are trying hard to shut it down and making inroads.
    are you saying Groups are trying to shut the legal Brothels?

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    I thought I was good to go after eccie shut down. I had a young lady from eccie that I was seeing when I had the opportunity to. We clicked and she was always available. But she took it really hard when eccie closed. I could see what could potentially happen to a lady like her and I warned her in advance. But I think she has wandered down a very dark road. I helped with some extra donation, but I can only do so much without raising suspicion with the SO. Now , I feel like I need to find someone else and since she was my only girl, I've got no references. I'll see what happens in the next couple weeks when I have an opportunity to play, if I can find somebody willing to take a chance on me.

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    Very tough right now.....200+ reviews vanished! Gone! Hard to screen men without them freaking out....business has slowed....its pretty tough right now id say

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    It’s going to be rough for a while but things will even back out over time. I think this really hurts the newbies and ladies that weren’t yet established.

    Apparently p411 isn’t taking new applications from providers or clients now either. It’s time to show love to your favorites right now ��

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    Positive Spin

    Though the new law has certainly been a damperin the hobby sphere we have to look at a couple things:

    1. Major reset to the hobby...a lot of bad blood has tremendously decreased on the public side. Yes there are still those that continue to harass and douche but, we don't have much of that going on especially with the old site trolls.

    2. New sites and tools: Twitter has exploded, Switter has become a huge service on bringing a worldwide community.

    3. New opportunities: Since the laws passing, I managed to branch out and meet some wonderful and talented ladies that have helped me obtain verified status and p411 oks.

    I'm glad I pre screened and chatted with many ladies prior to the old site shutdown. Being prepared hasn't dampen my mood to hobby.
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    "Someday if you're lucky, you will wake up and realize you are old...your belly will go soft, your pretty ass will sag, your back will ache in the night; gray hairs will sprout from your ears. Make sure you fucked your fill before that day!"

    Oberian Martell "The Red Viper"...Game of Thrones

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    By the letter of the new laws, they are suppose to combat not only trafficking of minors but trafficking in general. Backpage was definitely a trafficked site and the owner even plead guilty to that fact. If Eccie was not a platform for this trafficking, then they really did not have anything to worry about when it came to SESTA. A little before they shut down, the Eccie staff made the decision to delete all the providers and provider profiles under 21 years old, maybe thinking that ONLY girls under 21 are trafficked, which is ridiculous. Eccie was full of pimps and pimped ladies, so, being the platform for pimps to traffick their flock it was, so was the reason for the owner's to pull the plug before LE did. Unfortunately, the non pimped ladies that were providing to pay their bills, put food on their table or whatever doing it of their own free will were also effected.

    Being the strip club guy I am with seeing a FS provider every now and then, the new law affected me very little.

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    as the Chinese Foreign Minister Chou Enlai said, when asked by Henry Kissinger in 1972, what effect the French Revolution had.. "it's too soon to know".

    ask the question again, at the end of May, and I can give a solid answer.

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    Over the past 2.5 years, I think I posted less than 20 reviews on ECCIE even though I had a lot more encounters. I really only posted when I needed to extend PA. I never had a problem with getting verified. But I’m not sure that will work now. I never saved any numbers so it’s going to be hard to ask for references if the provider has not moved onto this site.

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