I know this topic comes up from time to time. Just curious what's the latest and greatest or somebody's got the scoop to something like the little blue pill
I know this topic comes up from time to time. Just curious what's the latest and greatest or somebody's got the scoop to something like the little blue pill
I order mine in bulk from India.
you have a link or website, thanks sexy ?
I have an ATF client that uses the blue pill and I can pass on the information.
Generic Viagra is readily available now on forhims.com, getroman.com, etc.
my co-pay is $20 for 24 pills through my doctor and insurance.
Zoo
Pecker pills are a band-aid for more serious issues. To get a good erection you need blood flow and testosterone. As we gents age, testosterone production decreases by about 2% a year after about 35 and blood flow can decrease based on your diet and fitness. Hit the gym is you haven't in a while and get fit. Lift weights 30 minutes a day 3 times a week, this will stimulate testosterone production. Go to GNC or go online and look for a testosterone booster. It's to a steroid, rather, its natural substances that stimulate the body's natural production of testosterone. Also do 30 minutes of cardio (running, fast walking, stair master,etc) to stimulate your blood flow. Again, look online or GNC and get a nitric oxide booster. This uses natural substances to help expand your blood vessels and promote growth of new blood vessels. I've always been a fitness nut but added test booster and nitric oxide a few years ago and I don't need vitamin V very much anymore. i still take it occasionally, especially when coach says go for the 2-point conversion, wink wink. But I can pop a hard-on almost as good as I did 25-30 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sc0-HM825M
Testosterone Booster---Funny
Why not go to a male clinic and get the real deal from a Dr.?? After insurance the cost is $3 per injection and I take an injection every 7-10 days. Individual results and dosage may vary depending on your free T level. Look up HCG as well. It assists you body in making efficient use of the testosterone, increases sex drive and counters sack shrinkage from T use.
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Guy, All I'm saying as a early-mid 50's guy, I've noticed big changes by using these OTC supplements. may not be for everyone, but it's an option to try if you want. Just sharing the info and my experience.
While I agree that things like Sildenafil (generic Viagra) or any of the "afil" erectile dysfunction drugs are essentially band-aids to other underlying issues, I would seriously caution about going out and taking OTC "T" boosters.
The primary underlying issue with ED is typically low testosterone. As mentioned earlier it's a normal process that testosterone goes on the decline after about age 35 in many men. For some it will never be an issue, for others it will have minimal effect, and yet still for others the effect as time goes on might be quite profound. It's dependent on each individual.
There are a few subtypes of testosterone, the one that you want to be at a regular level (500-850ng per deciliter) is your "Free T" level. The free T means it doesn't have proteins tightly bound so it can enter cells and activate receptor sites very easily (giving us men all the good effects of a regular T level).
You DO NOT want really high levels of sex hormone binding globulin testosterone. This type of T is inactive and unavailable to do much in the way of feeling better mentally, manly, virile, increasing muscle mass, bone density, increasing happiness and mental acuity, and so on. This is why it's very possible to have an overall high "T" level but suffer the effects of low T symptoms (i.e. bc it's not "free T").
Low T levels, especially low free T can lead to major side effects besides just low sex drive and erectile dysfunction. Such as, the inability to build muscle, low bone density, severe depression, lethargy and lack of mental acuity, heart and/or BP issues. The list goes on.
Albumin bound testosterone is another type of T. It has a weak protein bond and can be used to make free T when necessary so this one is still somewhat ok. What you really want is a high "free Testosterone" level (at least 375ng+/dl but 500ng+/dl is better).
You don't want to have T levels that are too high either. This can lead to many adverse side effects. For one excess T can get converted to estrogen. As a man you don't want that It can also cause prostate issues, cancer, etc...
The problem with the over the counter T boosters is they don't really contain ingredients that conclusively help with increasing testosterone levels. Things like DHEA, Creatine, zinc, various herbs, etc... None are proven to do anything conclusively to promote T levels. In fact, some studies have shown severe stomach discomfort after weeks of taking these supplements. It's also largely a huge waste of money. Now, that said, there might be some anecdotal accounts (per above quite) or even odd psychosomatic effects. But that's about it.
The nitric oxide would help with blood flow though. That's exactly what the "afil" range of drugs do (such as Viagra or Cialis). However they are dramatically more effective than otc nitric oxide boosters. But, yes, nitric oxide boosters can help with blood flow.
My advice would be to see a doctor, get a blood test to check your various testosterone levels and get an Rx for testosterone replacement therapy (or a shot) if it turns up that you have declining T levels. The shot is going to have a declining effect toward the end of the 2wks when you are needing another. My dad took the shots. I would advise using a gel or goto a pharmacy that can do compound mixtures (likely the doc would give you a 5% or 10% concentration mixture).
As for the question about peter pills the best solution is likely to just get an RX for generic V (Sildenafil). Goto GoodRx.com and check the pricing. You will likely find it cheaper than your insurance copay.
You should always use one of the tools like GoodRx these days. Pharmacies are not allowed to tell you about cheaper alternatives per their contracts with the insurance and pharmaceutical companies.
So, again, you should always always use discount pricing tools these days, even with great company insurance. That goes for *ANY* prescription.
Good luck! Stay safe.
-mg
Last edited by mathguy; 06-21-2019 at 04:48 PM. Reason: Edited a spot that shouldn't have said "overall free T" level
Hey MG, I have seen the Good Rx television commercial where the Pharmacist tells the waitress, with 2 little kids, her son's prescription will be $67. The waitress says she doesn't have that and is about to leave and the Pharmacist says "Wait, have you heard about Good Rx?" It went from $67.00 to $8.90!! MAN!! that's a savings of 87%!!! What a nice Pharmacist lady!!!
So what are you talking about MG? Of course the Pharmacist can tell you about cheaper alternatives. I saw it on television and you know they would not lie or deceive you on television!!! MG, here is a link to the commercial so you can be a believer to!!!
https://www.ispot.tv/ad/deas/goodrx-...eeds-this-drug
BTY, I'm looking to meet some nice ladies on OH2 that I can get an 87% discount with. Oh, maybe I can also catch one of these Unicorns I keep hearing about on here as well.
MathGuy... everything that you said was consistent with what my doc is doing for me... I need to check the Free T number, tho
Doc... Maybe download the app GoodProvider... maybe 87% discounts available there?!?!?
Thanks skittlez. Ya, take a look at your labs and look at the levels.
I made a grammatical and content error in my post above that I can't edit now.
To be clear, "free T" is only about 1-2% of your total T. The total T will be the one that is around the 275ng/dl to 850ng/dl range.
So, in short, "free T" will be in a "pg/dl" measurement (trillionths of a gram per deciliter of blood).
Use this table to see what your total T and free T should look like for your age range:
Testosterone Level Chart for Varying Ages
(disclaimer: I do not endorse, promote, or advise you buy products from this company site, but the charts for T levels are not bad)
FYI: The ideal range is >22 picograms per deciliter on the chart for the "Free T" level.
Last edited by mathguy; 06-21-2019 at 07:41 PM. Reason: Added testosterone chart URL reference
Doc, I'm guessing your simply jesting with me about the crooked nature of some of these TV commercials? Hehe
Some can give you info. It's not like an absolute hard and fast rule, or law, no. It depends on the pharmacy. But the big chains usually cannot. In fact, try to get a big chain to use your phone to lookup goodrx, or any other discount pricing. They almost never can. They will say, "I'm not allowed to do it for you.". It's usually in their contracts with the insurance and/or the pharma companies.
Now, that said, some of them are allowed to provide info if you straight up ask them, "is this the best or cheapest price, is there an alternative?". However, many of them, especially the big ones, if you don't do that they simply cannot offer the advice. I'm telling ya, it's a damn racket
Oh, btw, I just mentioned GoodRx bc I happen to use it some. I'm not at all affiliated with or gain anything whatsoever by mentioning their name. Just a little disclaimer.