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    Quote Originally Posted by alxndr69 View Post
    On the other end of the spectrum, I identify with this joke I heard as a teen:

    A guy picks up a prostitute and takes her to a motel room. When he undresses, she sees he's already fully erect at 2 inches. She laughs and asks him, "Who do you expect to please with THAT???"

    He says, "Me." ;-)
    Quote Originally Posted by mathguy View Post
    Ahahahaha. Funny. Hey, if one can look at it that way and that's what he's got to work with more power to 'em I say. At least it's a good emotional/self-esteem outlook!
    In all seriousness though not many men have to worry about this issue. I would venture even fewer on these boards have to worry. The average of people that are into sexual "pay/play hobbying" or engaging in any type of sex play, prostitution, porn, etc tend to be statistical outliers such that is skews the distribution of numbers and so they are not typically representative as a statistically significant standard distribution in the larger general public of men. There are *many* where this is not true of course. Obviously. Just like in porn as well. And most men fall within a pretty solid range that is within 1-2 inches give or take so yea you won't always see extremes but it will be much more common here than in "RL" general public (for example). Again, just like in porn.

    For example, what [most] "provider" girls here in the "hobby" see on a daily basis is not a great representation of the "general" populace of men. The reason is b/c you don't get a proper and even distribution. You either end up with people that are quite small or typically quite larger. Obviously there are many that will fall into normal ranges, of course, b/c that is in fact where most men fall (+/- 1-2in), but it won't be the same as the regular general populace of men. Not even close. The men here and according to most sex studies and sexologist data will likely either be [typically speaking]: A) on the smaller side, from smallish/normal to extreme small or B) normal/biggish up to the very big/huge. That's just a side effect of the hobby aspect. It will not always be that way and most men just as I said in earlier replies on this thread from a variety of studies will fall within typical normal ranges from around 4.75in to 6.25in. The point is that's much more evenly represented in the regular "RL" populace of men. The range of men here or in sex work or engaging in hobbyist sex activities is not a typical or standard distribution. We may still be able to derive a rough average but the curve and standard deviation would look kind of ridiculous compared to the "regular" public.

    Sex experts and urologists usually consider micropenis only when a man is below 1.9inches fully erect. That was the .6% (right at half of 1%) of men or less in the Dr Lane Palmer study done at Cohen Medical Center. The top .6% are above 6.8in. So, if you read my earlier replies from weeks back in this thread, you will see how this also fits in with some of that study data. And it gives a good idea of just what a really big penis is. The fact is most people, men *and* women, don't really know what an inch looks like. It's the truth. Most men in a regular sample taken off the street of, say, 1000 men, will fall within 4.75in-6.25in. The vast majority. As far as length goes. Not girth. After those measurements (above or below) you are start going into extremes that are close to or beyond 1-2 SD's (standard deviations), or even 3 SD's, from the mean (the middle 50%).

    Only .6% of men in Dr Lane Palmer's study were less than 1.9in erect (~5-6 men in 1000) and only .6% in that same study were above 6.8in erect (again, 6 men in 1000). However, something to consider even when looking at those numbers. The vaginal wall of most women is 2.5in to 3.25in while not stimulated. It expands to 4 to 4.75in during excitement. Obviously it can accommodate more if needed. This is the beauty and design of the vagina. However at around 6in (sometimes even more like 5.75) for all but the tallest women with very long torso's you are knocking on the cervix door (which you don't want to do guys - as much as your ego might want you too - I guarantee she does *not* want you too lol). Now there are variations and all women are different but this is largely why a guy who is, say, 9in long is wasted. And we are not talking about 9in by people's eyeball measurement comparing to other things, that skews badly, I'm talking about medically measured actual inches. That length is up around the 99.999%ile. Meaning .001% are that big (possibly 1 man in 1000 men). There could be slightly more in the hobby (which is what I was saying above - just like in porn) you are going to tend to see more "outliers" either on the small end or large end. It's still *very* few that large or that small. And even if you had a 9in erect cock you can't push it all the way in without pulverizing the cervix (ouch).

    This is a big reason why most studies show that women prefer thicker penises as opposed to longer. In fact an odd thing is that women actually pick thicker penises in all studies where it's just for sex, one night stands, fun fucking, blah blah.... as opposed to a real relationship. When asked if they were going to have a one night stand or fuck friend, in virtually every study done so far, they typically pick models of penises that are thicker. When asked what they would choose if they were picking one for a long term partner, on average, they pick much nearer the statistical mean (the statistical mean or average for men is 4.6in erect girth). That's interesting that they do this. Sexologists have a theory about it. Women seem to prefer a fatter penis, particularly for just a "good fuck" or "one night stand", b/c it causes more sensation. Why? Well, the vaginal wall depth can stretch but it's only 2.5in and up 4.75in when aroused and even if you stretch it to 6in+, much further and most girls you are gonna be knocking on the cervix door in many positions. But the vagina itself can open wider. The sensation of stretching the vaginal wall open due to girth causes more clitoral stimulation, a feeling of "fullness", it engorges all the nerves and area around the clitoris. This is why they believe women prefer thicker penises.

    Regarding girth, to mention that again b/c it actually appears to be a lot more important according to various studies, 4.6-4.65in erect girth is the mean/average. *Not* "across". No one has that LOL. It's circumference (around). That means you wrap a tape measure around the thickest part (which is different for different men) and measure the circumference. That's your erect girth (EG).

    You have to go a full 3 SD's (standard deviations) to get down to around 2.8in erect girth (this would be the bottom half of 1% of men, or .5%, or ~5 in 1000 men).
    You have to go a full 3 SD's (standard deviations) to up to around 6.25in erect girth (this would be the top half of 1% of men, or .5%, or ~5 in 1000 men). The data presented here is from various studies: calcSD Avg, Phosphine study, Habous et al 2015 study, Lifestyles Condoms study, Herbenick et al 2013, Promodu et all 2007 study, Veal et all 2015 study, and others.

    To get an idea of where values fall for EG (erect girth): (I know a lot of guys want to know... lol... so I'm posting the values here for a range of sizes)
    At 3.75in EG you are around the bottom 7.25% (928 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 4in EG you are around the bottom 14.7% (853 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 4.25in EG you are around the bottom 26% (740 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 4.5in EG you are around the bottom 40.65% (594 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 4.65in EG you are right in the middle at 50% (this is the actual average for men in general populace - meaning out of the 1000 men in a room, roughly 500 are smaller, the bottom ones above here, and 500 are larger, the top ones below this)
    At 4.75in EG you are around the top 56.8% (433 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 5in EG you are around the top 70% (282 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 5.25in EG you are around the top 85% (163 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 5.5in EG you are around the top 91.8% (82 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 5.75in EG you are around the top 96.5% (36 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 6in EG you are around the top 98.5% (14 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 6.25 EG you are around the top 99.6% (4 men in room of 1000 likely larger)
    At 6.5 EG you are around the top 99.9% (*possibly* 1 man in a room of 1000 larger - basically you need more men to guarantee there would be some that large and it would be *very* few - in 10,000 men it *might* be 8-10 of them)

    Every woman will have her preferences. Some will love enormous cocks just for the psychological aspect. There might even be a psychosomatic effect (meaning b/c they think it's so neat they have a slightly more aroused state - ie. their body is producing more endorphins, adrenaline, etc...). That phenomenon is not unique to sex by the way. Psychosomatic effects and the "placebo effect" have long been known to have a measurable result. It's theorized that is happens due to the rush of various hormones, adrenaline, endorphins, etc... as I explained. That's also why one can take aspirin and if they really it's aspirin or just think aspirin really helps them then they may begin to feel better (that's what "psychosomatic effects" are fyi). Some women will just a fat one. Others a long one b/c of the thought of being penetrated as deeply as possible (even though you can't possibly go much further than 6.5 to 7 realistically except maybe in certain positions).

    The end of the story though is that very few men have to worry about actually being too small. Even if you were 3in long you could still please a woman. You could. Yea you can't do certain positions. She may have psychological preferences that prevent her from liking it too. Similar to how guys don't like certain titties or pussies. Or how a guy or girl just doesn't like a certain face. Nothing you can do about that except move on. But you can definitely pleasure a woman. So if you are one of those men don't fret. There is no reason to think you can't have a healthy sexual life. In fact barring any psychological or psychosomatic desires most sexologists don't believe a man can't properly please a woman until they are under 2in erect and very thin which is when you would almost certainly seek corrective surgery.

    I mention this at the end now b/c again, the majority of men in sex hobbying or sex work (like porn as well as working in or rather just using prostitution) are typical outliers. They tend to be larger than normal or smaller than normal. Not always no, of course not, I'm sure girls in SW see guys all the time that are totally "normal". I mean after all, most guys are "normal" +/- 1-1.5in length from around 5.5in length and +/- .25-.5in of girth from the mean of 4.6in girth. It's still statistically significant enough that it skews numbers here. The smaller ones do it for obvious reasons. Even in porn (there is money in that too - cuckolding, humiliation.....). Point being if you are one on the smaller end you really don't need to engage in any sex activity just b/c you think you have to. Uh uh. You don't. And I would encourage if that is your reasoning then you should talk with someone. Seriously. Ya there are huge guys. Especially in a place like this here, or if you watch porn. But you can see that the vast majority of men are not enormous. Very few men have a penis beyond 6.5in length and 5.25in erect girth. Very few.

    Always trying to lend a helping hand

    -mg
    Last edited by mathguy; 10-24-2018 at 03:33 PM.

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