BBFS

[SweetArielRae]

Most of my messages come directly through text. The sad thing is I’ve seen this one person before and yesterday it actually struck a nerve.

WinnDixie you’re such a sweetheart

[ShortRound]

Hi Britttany,

I can agree with you as well with the exception of Begging. Begging is not one of my kinks. I’d also make a horrible sub.

However I love your pics as well. Women with curves are my weakness.

[britttany_love]

I used the word begging because to me in a way thats what it is. Approaching a woman who has otherwise expressed that she has no interest in seeing x, y and z and asking her to see you even though you know she has already said to not contact is begging. You are begging her to see you even though she doesnt see AA. You are begging her to give you a chance..give you the time of day. You know she has no interest as its already stated yet you still try to anyways. You are begging her to make an exception and break her rules. She said I don't do this and this or see this type of client. You being AA knowing she doesnt see AA clients and ignoring what she said and then contacting her anyways.. is you begging her to see you.

[ShortRound]

Although I disagree with your reasoning you’re definitely entitled to your opinion. I enjoy having the opportunity to reconsider a position when given new information.

Anyway back on topic. Don’t send Ariel request for services that she does not offer got it.

[Lovinglifeinaustin]

I would have thought this information would have already been shared on the ladies only forum. If not, why not? Miss V should share her extensive list with her fellow companions. All companions should share their DNS lists. That kind of information sharing protects all of us.

[Stewie griffen]

Ms. V, i did say that I understand the frustration, I recognize that there are some terrible people running around in our little hobby.

I also will not make excuses for them, nor did i in my previious post.

I want to see this hobby become easier on you ladies, but im not going to visit a lady that puts names out unless A criminal act has been committed. I value my privacy. I dont want any ladies telling secrets, and i do the same.

All my earlier post was meant for was to possibly provide some perspective, take it, leave it, i truly dont care. But mark my words, youll be shooting yourself in the foot. It may be unfair and unfortunate but i believe it to be the truth.

[Austin Ellen]

The Ladies do share their information in the powder room. Miss V was giving an example and making a point. I think you missed it.
Stewies post went before mine - I was responding to Life's post.

[Rose Somerset]

Hi Ariel,

My point is even if someone clearly states publicly a position they may feel differently in private. You clearly state in your signature “No SS Greek or BBFS Sorry no AA“ I am say that even though you stated something publicly I would still be tempted to ask you about the AA item in private. Btw I have been tempted your pics are amazing.

Anyway do what ever works for you. Blast names, don’t blast, block, don’t block, or just vent your frustration. In the end it’s all up to you. You are your own gatekeeper. Others will do the same. Now I digress.

I wish you the best play safe and enjoy your day.

This is literally the shit these women are talking about. If she says she doesn't offer certain services or to certain people, don't go asking for it anyway. That's the upsetting part. You're either not reading the information, or you are and just blatantly ignoring it- WHICH IS WORSE. Assuming that we'll change our minds if you DM us is shitty, disregarding our preferences is shitty. Stop being shitty.

[britttany_love]

Yesssss exactly!

[ShortRound]

This is literally the shit these women are talking about. If she says she doesn't offer certain services or to certain people, don't go asking for it anyway. That's the upsetting part. You're either not reading the information, or you are and just blatantly ignoring it- WHICH IS WORSE. Assuming that we'll change our minds if you DM us is shitty, disregarding our preferences is shitty. Stop being shitty.

I respect your opinion as well. One response would be is that I’ve learned to not assume anything until it is confirmed. I have know idea if the lady even has access to the account. I’m no longer surprised when a lady says “oh my friend set that up for me”

Btw I’m not into skat either. I’m pretty standard in my play.

Back to the the OPs post do what you like. It will all work out.

[MarkWatney]

For what it's worth, I think that a couple of important things have come up here:

1) There has to be a mutual agreement. If a gal doesn't want BB or AA, we need to respect that. I'm not AA and I don't know what that's like. As an Anglo type, I tend to prefer other Anglo types. But there are times that I like to dip into the chocolate or browner varieties. Guys like to choose between varieties so that we get that sense of novelty.

It's different for girls. If a gal doesn't like AA for whatever reason, should she really be required? I tend to prefer gals that are more open-minded and might accept AA in the right circumstances, but honestly it's not a show-stopper for me. The gals have to decide who they are willing to see.

One gal advertises openly that if you are bald and have a moustache, don't bother contacting her. I was interested in her, but she obviously wasn't interested in me, so I didn't try to contact her. I don't think it would be begging if I had, but maybe in a sense, since I have so many other options. I know that's not the same dynamic if you are AA, that's just my take on it.

2) BBFS may be more widespread than we like to think. Still we have the capacity to think. A lot of us have had an accident, and if you have, you need to get tested regularly. You need to get tested regularly anyway, maybe even take a break from the hobby if you think that you might be a risk to others.

This may be self-evident to you. If not or even otherwise, definitely don't contact the non-BB gals asking for BB. I know that the cover robs us of a lot of joy, but there are other ways to have fun. Mr Happy doesn't really care whether it's hand, mouth, or kitty. He is happy either way.

[Valentina Voluptua]

Is that mostly due to BP being shutdown?

From my experience most of it is coming from the board regular "Monger" who all of a sudden thinks we're desperate for money, and can manipulate us into acts we would have never considered before. These guys are the most opportunistic and vile and always have been and now they think they're empowered. Which is hilarious because demand hasn't diminished a bit, but we sure have lost a lot of reputable providers. And yes, we have absorbed a lot of Craigslist and BP guys, but generally if they had the astuteness to seek and join an established board when those sites went down, they are looking to be real clients and are putting in the time to learn the ropes. They may ask silly questions or be generally more time consuming to deal with but again, that's more like a growing pain then the mongers who are avaricious. Probably 2/3 of the names on my DNS are names almost everyone here would easily recognize.

[Kitty bunny fuck]

Riiight...Because we should protect shitty predatory behavior by the gentlemen who are at this point are totally out of control because of the years and years of them them collectively getting away with this shit because it seems the general consensus from mongers is that we should keep our mouths shut about it. Hence the massive problem us ladies are experiencing now and you guys are too dumb to see the problem that discretion in this case doesn't lie with the provider, it lies with the indiscreet and disgusting behaviors of these disgusting men who pollute and drag down our community. Yet you keep protecting them in your own way while taking time out to police providers. Like I notice not much has been said about how shitty dealing with this must be or how it taints the community. The answer seem to be, it's part of the deal and "mute" it if you don't like it. Fuck that. This entire market is different than it was just 6 months ago. Predatory men are not valuable clients, and predatory men are not valuable contributors to our community. I hope they get shamed and blacklisted to hell and cycle their vile selves right off the boards with their little simpering worms between their legs.

Every time these bums pull this shit, the screening gets tougher and the deposits get higher and the providers get more burned out and leave or suspicious of all of you, and all that succeeds in doing is making it tougher for good clients. How many good and honest providers have we hemorrhaged at this point? So tell me how keeping quiet about these creeps is good for anyone? Why on earth would a good man want to see the bad ones keep being empowered to do what they do? What a ridiculous proposition. Think about what you're saying instead of droning the same regurgitated rhetoric that has been the norm for too goddamn long and hasn't benefited anyone. Good men want to see these guys go bye-bye. If a client wouldn't see a provider for trying to clean up the community and shine a light on the vile ones for the betterment of everyone, then he's a shitty client too and not worth seeing either.

Fuck. Just marry me. You are sexy as hell ❤️ And everything you said is spot on.

[Rose Somerset]

I respect your opinion as well. One response would be is that I’ve learned to not assume anything until it is confirmed. I have know idea if the lady even has access to the account. I’m no longer surprised when a lady says “oh my friend set that up for me”

Btw I’m not into skat either. I’m pretty standard in my play.

Back to the the OPs post do what you like. It will all work out.

This isn't a matter of opinion. "Clearly stating publicly a position" is just that- CLEARLY STATING. If we clearly state something, we mean it. Assuming we might not mean what we said is rude. Ignoring our CLEARLY STATED POSITION is the rude and disrespectful. Pretty much all ladies want is for men to be respectful.

[ShortRound]

This isn't a matter of opinion. "Clearly stating publicly a position" is just that- CLEARLY STATING. If we clearly state something, we mean it. Assuming we might not mean what we said is rude. Ignoring our CLEARLY STATED POSITION is the rude and disrespectful. Pretty much all ladies want is for men to be respectful.

Hi Rose

Thank you for your reply. When you state “we” you imply that you are speaking for more than just yourself. I do not assume that you are speaking for all ladies. As wonderful as all ladies are they are all very unique. Each lady provides a service that works for them.

Some ladies don’t list a thing and say text for info. Some are adamant about what is listed. Some copy paste what other ladies have posted. Also some may be managed and don’t know what is posted.

So if I send a note to ask and it is found offensive then we just both move on. This has only happened once and even then she was open to meeting but I think she had some kind of superiority fetish. I was intrigued but had to pass. I can’t even watch humiliation porn.

When I see in interesting lady I will always shoot my shot. Someone saying no just slides off me like a good lube.

As I said before Ariel will most likely do what’s best for her regardless of what is stated by anyone else on the board.