Looks like the bottomfeeders kept LE busy

[Universal]

Every time I turn around there is a sting .... No wonder I keep hearing about, How slow business is and traveling escorts aren't doing very well. I didn't say every woman, talking about the majority.

[Phoenixx]

Every time I turn around there is a sting .... No wonder I keep hearing about, How slow business is and traveling escorts aren't doing very well. I didn't say every woman, talking about the majority.

right

slow business since there's more sellers than buyers in this risky market

more & more buyers get scared on the daily to partake in this heat

!

[Guest 121219-1]

Every time I turn around there is a sting .... No wonder I keep hearing about, How slow business is and traveling escorts aren't doing very well. I didn't say every woman, talking about the majority.

I have one client I travel to see, and have decided he will be my only client I indulge in this way. We have a groovy thing that involves cooking together, going out dancing and lots of shenanigans. I'd drive to BFE to spend time with him, he's that wonderful.

I used to see gents on my way to Austin, where I visit family. I have now made a decision that spending time with family is more important than hobbying. While I have truly enjoyed the company of the men I met in TX, all good things must come to an end.

I'd be happy to meet some of my TX fellows for a meal or a drink, just to catch up or connect. Otherwise, my energy will be given to the people I love.

And BTW, Ms. Universal, THAT ASS! Good Golly, Ms. Molly! I would just bury my face in that until I couldn't hear a damn thing!

[ElumEno]

April? Looks like I got some catching up to do.

my mind is still stuck on that previous sting back in April
since many of us watched it unfold on the other board
not cool...

Hmmm after a 2+ year hiatus it looks like I really am out of the loop... not the best time to came back.
Kansas City has always upped the stupidity around the holidays, but this year seems like they are after even more funding.

[Guest 121219-1]

April? Looks like I got some catching up to do.

Hmmm after a 2+ year hiatus it looks like I really am out of the loop... not the best time to came back.
Kansas City has always upped the stupidity around the holidays, but this year seems like they are after even more funding.

Yes sir, back in April, an ECCIE member cooperated with LE and took down some ladies. If you read back over the thread, you see the methods LE used.

And there are plenty of reputable, kind ladies who would be delighted to welcome you back. Just use your "wise picker" and choose carefully. Not all that glitters is gold.

If a lady is clean, kind, fun and wishes to cater to you, KEEP HER. Those gals are few and far between.

I wish you a successful return to the hobby, and hope it exceeds your previous encounters and expectations.

[iq160]

Perhaps it might be safer to not only see clients that you have seen before, but perhaps joining a cam site where performing is legal. Maybe even asking a client whom you trust to join you on cam for a couples session? That would throw a wrench into KCPD and OPPD’s vice squads. I also heard that the Platte Co. prosecutor would go after providers near the airport (he did go after one about 10 years ago that I knew).

[Guest 121219-1]

Perhaps it might be safer to not only see clients that you have seen before, but perhaps joining a cam site where performing is legal. Maybe even asking a client whom you trust to join you on cam for a couples session? That would throw a wrench into KCPD and OPPD’s vice squads. I also heard that the Platte Co. prosecutor would go after providers near the airport (he did go after one about 10 years ago that I knew).

I don't have clientele, including myself, who wish to become amateur porn stars. We're all older, not hard bodies, and do more making out, laughing and cuddling than we do anything else. We would have 3 people watch our videos, and give them a thumbs down! But it's a suggestion that some might consider, and thank you for making it.

If men and women would just stand firm against LE's bullying tactics, and refuse to cooperate, that would stop the bleeding. But I know that many men freak out when faced with the possibility of being arrested and spill their guts against the companion, thereby creating evidence against her. Seldom are companions allowed to make a deal because they are the people LE is targeting for the sake of "saving them from human trafficking."

And if people would not indulge in other illegal activities that exacerbate their charges, as those noted in this arrest, then hobbying would be a hard charge for LE to prove. Showing up to a hotel to visit someone does NOT mean you are engaging in prostitution. The only way they have that knowledge is if someone has admitted it. A man doesn't have to say why he was visiting the hotel. He doesn't have to answer any questions. It's not against the law to visit a hotel room. Unless LE has proof otherwise, he has to be set free. Unless the person is a minor, and then he's gotten himself into a world of hurt. AS IT SHOULD BE.

They WILL fuck with the guy. They will ask for an illegal search and seizure of his vehicle. He should know his rights and disallow this. Every hobbyist should bone up on what to do if confronted by police in this situation. Don't take anything to a date that would cause you problems. If you're a felon, don't have a gun on you (duh!). If you're a pimp, I hope they haul you straight to jail because you ARE a human trafficker and deserve years behind bars. If you're a sex offender, get the help you need because the last thing we companions need is someone re-offending against us. If you're seeing minors, you deserve many years behind bars and a special place in hell getting butt fucked by old, decrepit creeps like yourself. All of these scenarios were mentioned in the article.

[Phoenixx]

Perhaps it might be safer to not only see clients that you have seen before, but perhaps joining a cam site where performing is legal.

no thx

it may be legal, but it has its own risks

cam models have no rights when it comes to their content

their content always gets stolen & plastered all over the internet for the rest of their life

!

[Universal]

everyone is vulnerable

[Phoenixx]

everyone is vulnerable

unfortunately

it shouldn't be like this, dude :\

[DallasRain]

Ahh but sweet Miss Seductrix...I disagree on us older ladies doimg videos of various sorts cause we dont have hardbodies anymore
To some guys its about attitude,not looks..not all guys but some!
In fact I dont have a hardbody..but still am in good shape and can do dirty deeds as good as or better than some 30 yr olds...lol...and I have a long list of pornhub subscribers to my videos. Lol

As for as the hobby..we all gotta keep each other and ourselves safe..screen hard and make wise incall choices and keep your regulars happy!

[Guest 121219-1]

To some guys its about attitude,not looks..not all guys but some!

Agreed. My guys love ME--the total package. They overlook my mommy tummy because I overlook their daddy tummy! We don't dissect one another into body parts. We just laugh, love, talk and fuck each other silly! I'm a tough cookie on the boards, but a cream puff BCD. Unless they don't want me to be! One client compares me to Helen Mirren. She is my girl crush so I take that as the highest compliment.

But having videos of me out there on a porn site just ain't my jam. I know it works for many providers, but I won't be taking that route. I stick to my tight circle of friends, and that makes us all happy.

Glad your videos are getting attention! I'm sure they're fun to watch!

[Kati]

Kansas City is and always has been “hot”.

The last 10 years or so have been relatively calm compared to what we use to deal with as far as stings. They do it for awhile and then they stop. Election years are the worst. Always have been, probably always will be.

Listen to your gut ladies and gents. Even if it means not taking an appointment or canceling. Before the boards were as big as they are now, we had yahoo groups. Maybe email groups are a thing to bring back? We will survive in the new atmosphere and have fun doing it.

[Westley]

If you look on KC Metro ECCIE at the Encounter Reports, the majority of them are for companions that are advertising on sites other than ECCIE, OH2 or P411. Eros is not an active resource for KC. STG is the site they are using the most. So I'm not sure what the culture is like in Texas, but that's the culture here in KC. Men are moving to the low-hanging fruit that don't check references.

Agreed on the never speak about money statement. But many women use methods to try to discern if a client is LE. Patting men down, making men get undressed first, etc. They might not come right out and ask the question, but they are using tactics they believe will hopefully keep them safer.

I'm not sure what the answer is for companions here in KC. We have a rabid police collective who is intent on raising their "rescued human trafficking victims" numbers. Even if the "victims" are in the hobby of their own free will. I was offering a solution off the top of my head that probably would not work. You're correct--no one is going to admit to cooperating with LE but if a client you've known for some time all of a sudden starts acting hinky, that would be a red flag for me. And yes, asking if they're LE would be incriminatory. I did not think my original comment through well, so thank you for shedding light on that.

I wish there was a surefire way for the ladies to be safe from the scumbag clients who cooperate with LE. We had a bust 7 months ago, also in Independence, where a verifiable hobbyist with reviews and references lured women to a hotel room, where LE arrested them. How could they have possibly protected themselves against that? Perhaps by no longer accepting outcalls?

But what if that same client shows up to your incall location, and LE follows right behind him? How do you protect yourself against that? The guy could do this to a number of women over the course of a few days before the word got spread that he's a snitch.

It's a very scary time here in the KC metro area. And you have to be just as afraid of known hobbyists as you do LE. It's a fucked up situation.

Thanks for your solid advice!

"So I'm not sure what the culture is like in Texas, but that's the culture here in KC. Men are moving to the low-hanging fruit that don't check references."

"It's a very scary time here in the KC metro area. And you have to be just as afraid of known hobbyists as you do LE. It's a fucked up situation."

These are consequences and outcomes of new state and federal laws. Protect your interests as well as your business operations and develop your contingency plans (due diligence) accordingly.

[DocHoliday]

Some members have left the building.

If any of those members who left the building find Elvis, try to get him to sign up here as a contributing member. lol

For those of you too young to know what Ms. Fancy is referring to:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvi...t_the_building