So....what exactly is it

[Phoenixx]

I thought is was one of the best post I've ever read. I've always wanted to go to the dark web just to see what it's but I'll take your word to never ever try.

If you can please explain why someone should never go to the dark web just to see what it's like that would be appreciated.

yikes... I did not see the post...
I really hope MG wasn't spreading dark web propaganda :/

the dark web isn't some dark hole where anything goes....

A true “darknet market” describes the economy of users and vendors
interacting over onion service websites. They come in all shapes and sizes and are often illicit:
Comprehensive List of TOR services

TOR STEREOTYPED




TOR REALITY



The term “deep web” is usually an intended reference to the same thing but is more or less
misleading given its frequent connection to internet urban legends that are usually scams, assassin markets, etc.


TOR also has its own probs tho such as slow speeds and such: TOR Drawbacks


The dark web isn't all that bad.
It's used by journalists and other pros
looking to uncover info not found on the open web

Experience it for yourselves to develop your own perspective
(with caution and TAILS)

xoxo

[mathguy]

No no, hun. Hehe. It wasn't anything like that. It was a forbidden topic I used, a couple of stories that were recently on the news. The stories were about large trafficking busts explicitly linked to a very specific darknet market.

I was just using those stories to introduce the concept and again to display how trafficking from an LE perspective, the really awful stuff, is mostly targeted at the darknet/darkweb.

The issue was that the links to the CBS news stories, which I was only using to introduce the concept and discussion about the darknet, were of a "forbidden topic" (I'm sure you can easily guess what that topic was about :/ ).

My post wasn't about that though. I was just referencing the news story to show how most hysteria over trafficking is unwarranted b/c the deplorable disgusting stuff usually comes out of various darkweb networks. It is true they are not all illicit (darknet markets). Some just want anonymity. However the vast majority are doing highly illegal things (i.e "Silk Road" which at its height had over 1 million criminal users). I also went on to discuss some issues about porn and the legality of it versus prostitution.

It was that one bit of forbidden natured topic introducing the educational material that got it deleted though :/ I will rewrite it and adjust those forbidden topic intro parts.

Note: I will explain more about what I meant regarding not going to the darkweb in a follow up. It's mostly b/c you need to know what you are doing to not get into trouble. Tails is just a bootable live Linux distro that uses Tor and cryptography. It's not a bad idea but users need to be technically savvy. Darknet webs are on most DoD and NSA watchlists as well as the FBI cybercrimes division. If you don't know what you are doing you may get a knock on your door. Seriously. Phxx is right they are not all bad. All darkwebs. The vast majority are of a bad nature though. Remember there are many many. There is not one darknet. Many of the really bad ones are strictly invite only so you won't ever be able to get on those. However many or them are very illicit in nature and are available to regular users. I will explain more in a follow up.

[mathguy]

I will also clear up all of this confusion in a new thread and specifically explain what is meant by surface web, deep web, dark web, as well as the terms Clearnet, and other things.

Onion services and getting links for them from shady forums that connect to TOR nodes is just one teeny tiny part of the darkweb folks. Much of the really bad stuff is invite only.

Also, btw Puff...wrong.
Darknet is a term from circa 70's at ArpaNet which was the origin of our modern internet. It was created by the DoD research division ARPA in order to create a packet switched network. TCP IP is a packet switching network as opposed to, say, POTS - plain old telephone service. PSTN/POTS is what was known as a "circuit switched network". Anyway those darknet areas they referred to were areas of the agencies arpa network that were not available publicly back before routers could simply block echo requests (pings) and things of that nature. Universities were the first to use the ArpaNet and later it would become the widespread internet we know today. It began life at the DoD research division in the 60s and early 70s.

[Kitty bunny fuck]

I will also clear up all of this confusion in a new thread and specifically explain what is meant by surface web, deep web, dark web, as well as the terms Clearnet, and other things.

Onion services and getting links for them from shady forums that connect to TOR nodes is just one teeny tiny part of the darkweb folks. Much of the really bad stuff is invite only.

Also, btw Puff...wrong.
Darknet is a term from circa 70's at ArpaNet which was the origin of our modern internet. It was created by the DoD research division ARPA in order to create a packet switched network. TCP IP is a packet switching network as opposed to, say, POTS - plain old telephone service. PSTN/POTS is what was known as a "circuit switched network". Anyway those darknet areas they referred to were areas of the agencies arpa network that were not available publicly back before routers could simply block echo requests (pings) and things of that nature. Universities were the first to use the ArpaNet and later it would become the widespread internet we know today. It began life at the DoD research division in the 60s and early 70s.

You can’t rationalize with a criminal. 😂🤣 let them think the dark web isn’t all so “dark”

[Westley]

I will also clear up all of this confusion in a new thread and specifically explain what is meant by surface web, deep web, dark web, as well as the terms Clearnet, and other things.

Onion services and getting links for them from shady forums that connect to TOR nodes is just one teeny tiny part of the darkweb folks. Much of the really bad stuff is invite only.

Also, btw Puff...wrong.
Darknet is a term from circa 70's at ArpaNet which was the origin of our modern internet. It was created by the DoD research division ARPA in order to create a packet switched network. TCP IP is a packet switching network as opposed to, say, POTS - plain old telephone service. PSTN/POTS is what was known as a "circuit switched network". Anyway those darknet areas they referred to were areas of the agencies arpa network that were not available publicly back before routers could simply block echo requests (pings) and things of that nature. Universities were the first to use the ArpaNet and later it would become the widespread internet we know today. It began life at the DoD research division in the 60s and early 70s.

Ok, I'm impressed! If I ever need a organ transplant or nuclear submarine I'm calling you first!

[MarkWatney]

You can go to TechCrunch and search on "dark web" to view an article on how an illegal dark web site was taken down recently. Investigators used the highly-sophisticated technique of right-clicking on the page and selecting View Source, where the IP addresses of the servers were in clear view.

Add that one to the Guinness Book of World Records for world's stupidest criminals. I'd post the link, but I don't want to get into a grey area on site rules.

[Lovinglifeinaustin]

You can go to TechCrunch and search on "dark web" to view an article on how an illegal dark web site was taken down recently. Investigators used the highly-sophisticated technique of right-clicking on the page and selecting View Source, where the IP addresses of the servers were in clear view.

Add that one to the Guinness Book of World Records for world's stupidest criminals. I'd post the link, but I don't want to get into a grey area on site rules.

I found the article Mark, thanks for sharing.

[Precious_b]

I'd like to make a request to the OP if he could PM me the contents of the post that was removed.
Thanks.

[mathguy]

^ Pb I don't have a copy :/ I'm rewriting it but haven't finished. I'll post a thread tomorrow.

What's inane is look at Phoenixx's TOR links. It contains the same "forbidden" content in 3 spots on the linked page (which links to more of that topic). No offense to Phxx; her post is totally fine. I mention it only to show how silly the "forbidden" topic is and that it was simply someone fucking with my post. The purpose was not to talk about any prohibited topic, not at all, just like her post isn't either.

It would have been nice if someone had at least contacted me. Obviously people are interested. The reference was innocuous & pedestrian; it could have just been edited/removed from the post. I'll post a rewritten one tomorrow. Night folks.

[Phoenixx]

You can go to TechCrunch and search on "dark web" to view an article on how an illegal dark web site was taken down recently. Investigators used the highly-sophisticated technique of right-clicking on the page and selecting View Source, where the IP addresses of the servers were in clear view.

Add that one to the Guinness Book of World Records for world's stupidest criminals. I'd post the link, but I don't want to get into a grey area on site rules.

thanks Mark x

I'll risk it and post the link: FBI Seize .Onion Domain | TechCrunch



wild.... I remember seeing Deep Dot Web in Google results when searching for
things on the clearnet

I will also clear up all of this confusion in a new thread and specifically explain what is meant by surface web, deep web, dark web, as well as the terms Clearnet, and other things.

Onion services and getting links for them from shady forums that connect to TOR nodes is just one teeny tiny part of the darkweb folks. Much of the really bad stuff is invite only.

can't wait xoxo






apart from TOR, Firefox is a great browser that allows more privacy than Google Chrome...
Especially when adding these add ons to th Firefox browser for more privacy:
Firefox Browser Add Ons For Privacy


I personally use Brave browser, and it has more privacy features for users than Chrome

anything but Chrome.........

^ Pb I don't have a copy :/ I'm rewriting it but haven't finished. I'll post a thread tomorrow.

What's inane is look at Phoenixx's TOR links. It contains the same "forbidden" content in 3 spots on the linked page (which links to more of that topic). No offense to Phxx; her post is totally fine. I mention it only to show how silly the "forbidden" topic is and that it was simply someone fucking with my post. The purpose was not to talk about any prohibited topic, not at all, just like her post isn't either.

It would have been nice if someone had at least contacted me. Obviously people are interested. The reference was innocuous & pedestrian; it could have just been edited/removed from the post. I'll post a rewritten one tomorrow. Night folks.

oh damn, really? I mentioned 'forbidden topics'
hahahah whatevs... no one got shot :P

no reason, no warning, nothing? yikes
your post was removed like true censorship
no questions, no reasons... just deal.. basically.. eeek.

big reason why I favor decentralized platforms...
users have a bit more power within their communities vs. central authority figure(s)

for real......

[MarkWatney]

Actually, the story on TechCrunch that I was referring to is dated Oct. 16, and the title begins "Inside the shutdown of ..." followed by the forbidden topic. That's the one where they found the server IP's by right-clicking and viewing the web page's source code.

[Lovinglifeinaustin]

thanks Mark x

I'll risk it and post the link: FBI Seize .Onion Domain | TechCrunch



wild.... I remember seeing Deep Dot Web in Google results when searching for
things on the clearnet




can't wait xoxo






apart from TOR, Firefox is a great browser that allows more privacy than Google Chrome...
Especially when adding these add ons to th Firefox browser for more privacy:
Firefox Browser Add Ons For Privacy


I personally use Brave browser, and it has more privacy features for users than Chrome

anything but Chrome.........





oh damn, really? I mentioned 'forbidden topics'
hahahah whatevs... no one got shot :P

no reason, no warning, nothing? yikes
your post was removed like true censorship
no questions, no reasons... just deal.. basically.. eeek.

big reason why I favor decentralized platforms...
users have a bit more power within their communities vs. central authority figure(s)

for real......

Phoenixx, I admire your technical know how and suggestions. For those of us non-techie types using Safari (whose default search engine is Google), what do you suggest?

[MOCHAakaMOCHA]

I know you asked Phoenixx but I like DuckDuckGo or Qwant (slightly prefer Qwant more).
**one more honorable mention is Startpage**

Phoenixx, I admire your technical know how and suggestions. For those of us non-techie types using Safari (whose default search engine is Google), what do you suggest?

[Lovinglifeinaustin]

I know you asked Phoenixx but I like DuckDuckGo or Qwant (slightly prefer Qwant more).

Thank you love. There are lots of people like you here that know a lot more about all things computerish than I do. I am happy to hear from all of you.

I have not used DuckDuckGo, but I noticed that it is one of the alternative search engines offered by Safari on my iPad. Others are yahoo and bing. I don’t see any opportunities to add others like Firefox or Qwant.

I will try DuckDuckGo. Thank you for the suggestion.

[Universal]

This goes to show you, offshore accounts out of the United States & hid behind a proxy wall won't get past law enforcement. The group, "We are Anonymous" computer hackers have been caught.