After-play and pillow talk

[Lovinglifeinaustin]

After play and pillow talk might be the best way to convince me to come back. I love it.

[Strix]

Like others have said, if you want me as a repeat customer then yeah as it gives more of an illusion that there is a connection beyond just the deed. I usually though just get up and go as I am very aware of the "arrangement" and assume that's the girls preference. Have occasionally made more of a connection and the experience was a bit more "real" in that case those are the ones that get the repeat business. That said, if it's blatantly fake or you are just a bad actress, I wouldn't attempt it as it will probably have the opposite effect. For me right now I have this with a dancer from one of the local clubs. She hangs out far longer than our session (never charges) and we've actually just hung out in general. Needless to say she's getting 99.9% of my business right now.

On the flip side if the experience was a wild crazy type thing, don't need it as then it's purely physical and i'll come back just because of that. At least once anyways.

[Austin Ellen]

Very interesting read. I'm so glad you posted this. I agree, Europe is a whole different ballgame.

Ava,

In my limited experience of "hobbying" for 20+ years, There are a high percentage of providers in the US who have: 1) Mental health issues; 2) "Lifestyle" issues; 3) Come from / are in physically abusive relationships; 4) Let your mind wander. The net effect is the same: They don't want intimacy, and many just plain don't like men (can't imagine why).

Interestingly, My "hobbying" experience abroad (no pun intended) has had much more of authentic GFE / imtimacy feel to it. I saw one French provider exclusively for almost 8 years (as in, I didn't have sex with any other woman during this time period). She lived a bit out in the country, so I would always schedule a 3 or 4 hour rende-vous. More often than not I would end up spending the whole day or sometimes, overnight. I didn't care about what she did in between the times I saw her, it's just that whenever I was with her, I was the complete focus of her attention. We had no secrets from each other.

My current ATF unfortunately, lives in northern Germany, not too far from Denmark. She literally has an international reputation. But the last time I was on the continent, I was two countries away from her. I texted her, and damned if she didn't catch the next TGV high speed train to spend the afternoon with me. She had to travel about 4.5 - 5 hours each way.

No, I'm not some Ralph Lauren model or even the most interesting man in the room. But unlike many hobbyists in the USofA, I have to make a real connection with the lady I'm with or else it's just the Anti-Viagra at $300 / hour minimum. Think of how many providers you personally know who are willing to emotionally risk that level of connection? I don't know many.

With few exceptions, I save up my nickels and dimes and look forward to my next visit to the Continent. The "hobby" is just so.... civilized there!

Just MHO. Cheers!

[NaughtyNaomi]

I love pillow talk.. I find those sessions usually end with a happier time. I like when someone can have stimulating conversation, or if they make me laugh. Nothing makes me more comfortable if someone is making me laugh. I also like when someone wants to chat a bit before. It gives it a more humanistic element, which definitely shows in the session. Those sessions always end up being more passionate, which is a lot of fun too.

[ck1942]

Wishing more folks could understand the

chemistry-companionship-communication

attributes of true hobbying rather than

concentrating on the giddyap and then go, instead of glow!

But, that's ck1942 the hobbyist, not ck1942 the monger.

ijs

[Westley]

Very interesting read. I'm so glad you posted this. I agree, Europe is a whole different ballgame.

The whole foreplay, intimacy, pillow-talk and illusion of passion I encounter in foreign lands has yet to be replicated in the US. Those companions that are successful in meeting or exceeding the GFE expectation will create a competitive advantage. Some Asian cultures compliment the discreet hobbyists lifestyle.

Mistresses and Courtesans were not necessarily legal but are deemed socially acceptable by means of a low enforcement priority and rock star status even in some extreme Islamic countries. A diplomatic Lady well rounded with hard and soft skills could move throughout the class levels of society like movie stars even where women are considered second class citizens.

The ladies I encountered in Asia prided themselves on being high quality, low volume but long term service providers. They vetted potential clients the way professionals like lawyers, investment bankers and and other professional consultants vet their clients. Youth and beauty mattered.

However, the wisdom that comes with age made some courtesans not only wealthy but sought after for their influence as well as their sexual prowess. Building discreet trusting long term relationships via personal introductions as vouchers was and probably will always be more secure and resilient means to grow a sexually oriented "consultancy" than heavy reliance on the Internet.

I do miss the good old days before the Internet, cyber fraud and cyberterrorism.

[F117]

+1!

BTW, my current favorite ladies are all over 40 y.o., closing in on the big 5-0. Experience matters, both in life and BCD skills!

Excellent post, Westley!

[HeywoodJablowme]

I'll never forget one time after a session, I started to get up, then rolled back over, put my arm around the girl and pulled her close, laid there and spooned and held her for a few minutes. I leaned over and kissed her on the cheek and she was crying. I asked her oh shit what did I do wrong? She says "I fuck guys all the time and that's the first time I've been held in over a year."

[F117]

^^^ I don't understand why so many hobbyists refuse to treat providers as human beings, worthy of respect, compassion and dignity, no matter how "down and dirty" the BCD activities are / were. But I know my views are in the minority.

[Sweetsarah512]

Pillow talk and cuddling are some of the best parts of GFE. I love being a big spoon which is something a lot of guys actually enjoy and don’t get to have often. We are replicating a GIRLFRIEND experience, not wife. Kiss hard and cuddle even harder til round two!!!

[Westley]

^^^ I don't understand why so many hobbyists refuse to treat providers as human beings, worthy of respect, compassion and dignity, no matter how "down and dirty" the BCD activities are / were. But I know my views are in the minority.

I am with you Brother!

[Westley]

Pillow talk and cuddling are some of the best parts of GFE. I love being a big spoon which is something a lot of guys actually enjoy and don’t get to have often. We are replicating a GIRLFRIEND experience, not wife. Kiss hard and cuddle even harder til round two!!!

Exactly! Spoken like a true Courtesan. For the record, I'm looking for the ultimate GFE experience-Not the mean and bitchy wife experience. You have wisdom beyond your years. Respect!

[AlexandraSand]

Exactly! Spoken like a true Courtesan. For the record, I'm looking for the ultimate GFE experience-Not the mean and bitchy wife experience. You have wisdom beyond your years. Respect!

Hi Westley, I like the way you think and communicate! I am not from USofA :)

F117 I am with you also.

What a wonderful discussion! So sweet and pleasant! Cuddles! Cuddles!

It is rare, in my experience, that guys below 50 years of ripeness want closeness. Most of them flaunt their stamina, disrespect and jerkiness. They are very judgemental, rude and disrespectful, with "a chip on the shoulder." It takes them few years to realize, that when testosterone subsides and hard-as-rock penis becomes more flaccid, that few bucks in a pocket will not get them far anymore. That is when this guys are changing from jerks to either demanding and disrespectful ass#oles, who blame the providers for "bad" date, or, they wise-up and get more pleasant personality and become popular with ladies.

***apologies for generalization of boys under 50***

[Lovinglifeinaustin]

Pillow talk and cuddling are some of the best parts of GFE. I love being a big spoon which is something a lot of guys actually enjoy and don’t get to have often. We are replicating a GIRLFRIEND experience, not wife. Kiss hard and cuddle even harder til round two!!!

Don’t be too hard on wives love. My wife cuddles and pillow talks with the best of providers. But she doesn’t like to blow me.

[Ava In Austin]

Thank you Ladies and Gents for commenting and sharing! And, drawing from so much diverse life experience too.

In my short time here in this realm, I have found that embracing the after-glow together to be something that men of all ages enjoy partaking with me. And on the flip side, it is the same for the guys who prefer to continue on with their day. So, the age of the gent has not been a factor, at least for me, in the after-play arena.

Any ladies who do not care for the after-play / pillow talk wish to contribute? Again, I do not dare to speculate on your reasons though, I am curious as to the whys. I will say just having a good romp between the sheets and continuing on with my day can be quite the recharge I need to take on or finish other tasks ;-)