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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone2u View Post
    I'm older and sometimes I work just fine and sometimes I don't. I can't take the pills because they have a tendency to dilate blood vessels where I don't need it. The needle works just fine.
    If you talk about it with guys they mostly say "Hell No".....that's pretty common. I would think lots of guys here use the needle but few would tell you on an open board.
    The best thing about the needle is it ALWAYS works. It also has no side affects. 10 to 15 minutes after taking the shot a girl can just touch you a little and bingo....you can hang 3 wet towels on it.
    The only time I've ever had a problem with it was the first time I used it. The Doc pre-loaded a syringe for me to try and told me only to try a little bit the first time because he wasn't sure what dosage
    I really needed. Like a fool I worried a little bit wouldn't be enough and emptied the syringe. I ended up not having enough skin and it hurt like hell. Turned out a little bit was just right.
    It's also cheap. Two vials cost me $115 and I get about 20 to 25 shots out of them.
    The idea of where you give yourself the shot seems to scare guys. It's a tiny needle very similar to an insulin type syringe. I can hardly feel it.
    By the way.....taking it doesn't make you any less of a man.
    Yea it definitely sounds painful but I'm sure you are correct that it's no big deal b/c the needle is really small and it only requires microgram levels of Alprostadil. Alprostadil is a prostaglandin called PGE1.

    Even though it works differently than the afil range of phosphodiesterase inhibitors (PDE5 particularly) it essentially does the same function, working as a vasodilator in a very similar way.

    As I said earlier in this thread the entire issue with ED, from a purely root physiological perspective, is that one doesn't get blood flow into the penis (corpus cavernosa).

    The "popular" ED drugs such as Viagra, Cialis, etc... work by inhibiting PDE5 enzyme receptors which block the breakdown of cGMP to inactive GMP. Thus, the available nitric oxide (NO), created by sexual stimulation/thoughts from endothelial cells/nerve endings, is able to keep churning out cGMP faster than it can break down which is important b/c cGMP relaxes the smooth muscle tissue and allows blood to flow into the penis (allowing a strong erection). Men who have ED typically don't make enough NO.

    There are other pathways with can lead to vasodilation. Another one is through PGE1 (Alprostadil) which works on the cAMP channel (note that is cAMP not cGMP; no, this is cyclic adenosine monophosphate).

    cAMP is syntehsized from something many of you might be familiar with if you workout a lot: ATP (adenosine triphosphate). If you don't know what ATP is maybe you will know what Creatine Monohydrate is (sold at GNC and such)? Many people buy it and do a 3-5 day "loading" phase for workouts. The reason they do it is b/c the Creatine loading will cause increased synthesis of ATP in muscle cells. Creatine is found naturally in certain foods too (i.e. red meat). The resulting ATP is a powerful intracellular energy carrier. It fuels muscle contraction, ability to lift more, do more, provides energy, etc. More on this below, I have a postulation about it regarding ED drugs (though it's merely an untested hypothesis at this point).

    Just like cGMP there are also phosphodiesterase inhibitors that have an affinity for hydrolysis of cAMP into inactive AMP. You don't want that because cAMP, very much like cGMP, also relaxes the smooth muscle tissue of the corpus cavernosa allowing plenty of blood to flow to the penis (faster than those PDE enzymes can break it down). Unlike Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, etc... which block PDE5 (mostly), Alprostadil (PGE1) blocks the phosphodiesterase (PDE) inhibitors that act as hydrolases to cAMP, specifically those are PDE 4, 7, and 8.

    I also have a theory that loading with creatine monohydrate, bought from your local GNC or HEB, which would result in increased ATP production, that it could also result in more sustained or better quality erections for any men who might be using Alprostadil medications. Why? Remember that I said cAMP is synthesized from ATP? Therefore, I have reason to believe that if you loaded on creatine for a few days, just as many weightlifters do, you would increase concentration of ATP in the intracellular muscle tissue, and as a result your Alprostadil medication could synthesize cAMP even more readily. It's just a hypothesis at this point. But it could very likely work.
    -MG

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    This is a very good (high content) thread... thnx, OP....

    So, I will answer (the inquiry) FOR ME (and I am 'vulnerable', in doing so) ...

    but I think it is generally helpful info for many...

    This info is presented to the provider - what YOU can do for your Client... specifically what can you do for me (skittlez)


    Have the room "cool"... HEAT deflates, working in the HEAT exhausts more quickly.

    Learn and practice IOP... make me FEEL that you are happy to see me

    Continually stimulate the penis (touch, taste, massage lightly)...

    keep the success (the erection) going...


    do not stimulate it to hard, then ignore it...

    it can/will deflate - and then don't try to apply the rubber to a semi-flacid tool...

    yeah, that's a waste of time - and the end right there - as the latex squeezes the hard to limp...

    and then, don't exacerbate the situation... appear perturbed, check the clock, do nothing...

    all those things induce performance anxiety on top of ED

    Know ladies... that I don't want to be soft, I want to be HARD and I was HARD just moments earlier...

    Do you have the professional skillz to prevent this scenario?

    It is far easier for YOU and ME too, too build passion and desire and momentum...

    those things KEEP the dick hard and happy until completion...

    IF YOU LOSE IT (the hard), then to resurrect... you'll need to 'start over' from the beginning... the chat, the make out, the caressing, etc...

    build and keep the momentum going... and that's especially hard for a guy, when he knows that your eye is on the clock...

    Ladies... I wish you all the best in this difficult situation.

    ED is not your fault, butt it is your opportunity to succeed - and make a happy Client.


    ...and Happy Clients are what make your biz succeed with good reviews, comments, referrals and repeats

    so know what to do, practice it and make it your #1 goal to have each Client leave satisfied (at a minimum)...

    butt leaving happy or delighted is MUCH better!


    I'm not telling you ladies how to run your biz, butt I am suggesting...

    Keep the room COOL.
    Have water available.
    Build 'momentum' and keep it going - do NOT lose the HARD - stimulate physically, IOP, your words, your touch to his body (not just penis)
    Your attitude...
    Your skillz...
    Your reassurance and encouragement...
    "WE are going to get this done"
    As to the sesh... IMHO, you succeed - or FAIL - together
    a sesh is a joint endeavor, a joint responsibility...
    some of you won't want to hear that...
    The best of you gals WILL not only hear this, butt will have already adopted that philosophy...

    Sharing is caring - all the best
    Last edited by skittlez; 08-19-2019 at 10:52 AM.
    Sharing is caring...

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    ^ Superb comments by Skittlez! I have written lengthy theses on various physiological factors with regard to the ED subject in this thread.

    Skittlez has superbly added psychological aspects and they are SO compelling and affecting that I just have to quote some and reiterate it for our beautiful girls. They ARE THAT important.

    Quote Originally Posted by skittlez View Post
    and then, don't exacerbate the situation... appear perturbed, check the clock, do nothing...

    all those things induce performance anxiety on top of ED
    This one is INCREDIBLY important. There is nothing on earth that will make a man lose his wood faster than anxiety, pressure, "come on come on hurry up", irritation, etc... Flat out hands down. If my physiological essays on erections, anatomy, and medicines are the holy grail of helping men/women with ED, then Skittlez points are the absolute and quintessential example of the holy grail of erection/ED matters from a perspective of psyche.

    Quote Originally Posted by skittlez View Post
    IF YOU [he] LOSE IT (the hard), then to resurrect... you'll need to 'start over' from the beginning... the chat, the make out, the caressing, etc...

    build and keep the momentum going... and that's especially hard for a guy, when he knows that your eye is on the clock...
    Again, from a sexual psychology perspective this is gold. This is true even in marriages or regular relationships.

    But when a guy is paying money? Sheesh! Forget it. Might as well pull up his pants, get yourself dressed, and say your goodbyes. It is now over. ESPECIALLY if the guy is even remotely having issues with ED, anxiety, nerves, stress, etc... I mean it girls. He is bang on the money with this one. You'd have better luck in that case dressing up like an ancient egyptian or native american and performing a rain dance ritual to get him hard. Seriously. Haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by skittlez View Post
    ED is not your fault, butt it is your opportunity to succeed - and make a happy Client.[/B][/SIZE]

    ...and Happy Clients are what make your biz succeed with good reviews, comments, referrals and repeats

    so know what to do, practice it and make it your #1 goal to have each Client leave satisfied (at a minimum)...
    So true. All of this. ED is not your fault but if you take the effort it's your opportunity to succeed phenomenally. Why do you think some girls are so loved certain guys? Because that guy may barely even be able to get an orgasm (or even perform sex at all) with his own wife, but this amazing, compassionate, patient girl can make his life brighter for an hour, or two, or three each week, or few weeks, or month, or whatever the situation/budget allows.

    You can't win them all. Some days it just won't happen. Just like the best male lover can't make a woman cum on every single occasion. That's life. But even then DO NOT show frustration, irritation, impatience. He already has all of those things happening and I *guarantee* you will never receive a call again from him, or likely his associates, and you definitely won't get a review.

    Quote Originally Posted by skittlez View Post
    Build 'momentum' and keep it going - do NOT lose the HARD - stimulate physically, IOP, your words, your touch to his body (not just penis)

    Your attitude...
    Your skillz...
    Your reassurance and encouragement...
    "WE are going to get this done"
    As to the sesh... IMHO, you succeed - or FAIL - together
    a sesh is a joint endeavor, a joint responsibility...
    some of you won't want to hear that...
    The best of you gals WILL not only hear this, butt will have already adopted that philosophy...
    A+ again. This is all completely on point. You want to succeed? Listen to all of this here. I fully endorse everything Skittlez has said. Damn fine job.
    -MG

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    I'll just add my 2 cents. A good tight cock ring. Always has worked for me
    69 is a must. And the cream that goes with it.

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    This thread might be old and long discussed too but I would like to add taking those gas station pill actually work. For me it would be rhino gold pill that shit makes it very hard and more rounds too. I noticed if I take it on a empty stomach and drink water it will work instantly. Also these gold rhino will also work the next day or 3 days. Also helps you really are in the mood . My 2 cents

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    Didn’t read through all the answers but what does the trick for me is lifting heavy weights (or body weight exercises such as squats if I don’t have time to go to the gym). Also, cutting down on porn/masturbation helps a lot. Hope this is useful info.

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    My issue is psychological. I just have to click with a woman. I wake up with raging wood. But if I don't feel it with a lady, it just ain't happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aztecjefe View Post
    This thread might be old and long discussed too but I would like to add taking those gas station pill actually work. For me it would be rhino gold pill that shit makes it very hard and more rounds too. I noticed if I take it on a empty stomach and drink water it will work instantly. Also these gold rhino will also work the next day or 3 days. Also helps you really are in the mood . My 2 cents
    They work because some of those pills have the "real deal" ingredients in them. If you get blue tinted vision after taking one you know you have found one that does, just keep quiet about it! lol

    https://www.fda.gov/drugs/medication...ement-products

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