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[3daygetaway]

… So, the rates are going up because of your fiduciary responsibility to shareholders? Once again, corporate greed fucks the little man.
Vote Democratic Socialist 2020!!!

[Guest 052621-1]

… So, the rates are going up because of your fiduciary responsibility to shareholders? Once again, corporate greed fucks the little man.
Vote Democratic Socialist 2020!!!

i see someone has selective reading, but given the nature, i expected my words to either skipped or picked thru...let me re word this another way

no! its me paying out of my pocket 6 mths worth in 3 mths time because of your lieing and therefore doing nothing but wasting my time when you get busted which is EVERYTIME! so no! its those that have lied and just from this site alone, theres a mile long thats from this site that lied and got busted everytime, thinking you were gonna get away with it! so then i taxed you, if you are gonna spend the time filling that form out wasting YOUR time by lieing and thinking that im too stupid enough too fall for it, therefore wasting my time that i dont have being that i have all this shit to do that comes with this job...not to mention all of you screaming these demands at me...which would be me meeting the deadlines you give to me... instead of just not filling the form out at all....which therefore in the end is what...me paying for you to lie and do nothing but waste my time????!!! oh sooo you think i should pay for your lies huh?????


hmmm nope!
$10 stupid tax, for being that damn stupid for thinking that you werent gonna get caught, and for thinking that im that damn stupid
$10 time wasting tax for sitting there wasting your time and mine by filling that form out when you know all your gonna do is lie AND GET CAUGHT!

now....IM NOT GONNA BE PAYING OUT MY POCKET FOR YOU TO LIE TO TRY GET THROUGH MY DOOR!!! THAT ENTITLEMENT THERE OF "OH IM CAN JUST DO WHAT THE FUCK I WANT AND TAKE IT ALL AND NOT GIVE Any NOR A FUCKING CARE" KINDA ATTITUDE, nooo....it doesnt work with me..sorry yall taught me to damn well. like i said, thank you


oh wait a minute, there wont be one soul who gets any of the shares, if i can help it, you will not dare take from me what i have worked my ass off at earning! this i have earned and bought and paid for out of my personal money not one of you entitled feeling men will touch what i own! see thats where your mistaken , do you really think your going to just take from me what i have fought you for? your fucking out of your mind! ill be the one woman/person running this corporation! no one has earned it but me!

[Fancyinheels]

Very interesting debate with many valid points expressed and experiences related on carnal commercialization. This is a volatile topic that can easily drift into confrontational rhetoric, so let's please all remember to be respectful of varying opinions whether we agree with them or not, and keep on track with the subject at hand. Appreciation for both lads and lassies in the pursuit of pleasure and profit, whichever is applicable, and Happy Hobbying!

[Valentina Voluptua]

One thing that has to be considered is that working as a provider is one of the hardest jobs a woman can do and especially do at a high level. In return it pays pretty well when it is done well. The average 1 hr session represents as much as two hours preparation and finishing up. Advertising, screening, wardrobe, necessary toiletries and other aids, not to mention in many cases years of experience and study to bring their game up to the high level it deserves. The best women do an incredible job. Those new to the game must be excused to some degree if they fall short. The learning curve is not that short. So, I don't really complain about the rates charged because in most instances I get wonderful service. If is beyond my budget, then I don't make an appointment. What is $50 or even $100 one way or another?

Bravo sir, well said.

And I know this little vice of ours is expensive. I know my rate is on the higher end. However, it's not just the hour you're paying for. I have an excellent reputation, I've never stood anyone up, I've never been late, my incall is safe, easily accessible, and well appointed, I'm attractive, hygienic, and wonderful company. I am generous with my time and have any manner of cocktails and often home made goods I'm happy to add to the amenities. I meet people at the same level of respect they graciously extend to me. In short, I took that all in account when determining my rate as I do strive to honor the time and generosity of those who choose me by being the best provider I can be. I know my time is pricier, but in the end, if you value your time and sanity and don't care for run-around or riskiness, you may find the price point amenable.

I know $50 to $100 dollars can be someone's undoing. I respect and understand that. But for the most part this is a luxury indulgence and should be considered in that way. There is zero shame in sticking with providers in budget, bargain hunting and even bartering. But there many gents that want value that that go beyond just an accessible body.

[actionjackson647]

the ladies can charge whatever they want. however if they are charging more than i think is reasonable i wont pay it. simple as that.
ill just move on to someone else. there will always be someone available at different price points.

I dont blame a woman for trying to charge 350-400 or more per hour. I wont pay it but if other will then go fo rit.

[DustyCap]

Once prices exceed what I’m willing to pay, then I will quit this hobby.

I still get 60, 80, 100 deals, just have to look for them.

******s will always try to raise prices with their accomplices.

[Mike_Rach]

mathguy and risn2theoccasion2 have already spelled it out well. :)

Many aspects contribute to the value of a provider's service. Looks are the most obvious. There's also TCB skills, BCD skills, IOP, etc. Those that consistently provide a better experience across the board will be able to charge more and still get business.

An all too common example - a provider can get a hard pass from the guys and it has nothing to do with looks. Wants $300 an hour or more, but has terrible TCB skills making scheduling a PITA, then late for appointments, etc? My time is valuable too. You could probably conduct a study and find a rate where professionalism regarding TCB skills is expected.

We see unrealistic expectations on both sides, an I'm sure both sides laugh at it. I'm on the hobbyist side, and yeah someone new with no reviews or one or two looking for $600/h or more get ribbed for unrealistic expectations. Conversely, I'm sure the dudes looking for the bargain, that want to FF, rough sex & whatever else and expect it all for $100/hr because that's all they got right now probably get downright laughed at.

[Utrhottie]

My rates have been the same since the beginning of time and I dont plan on moving them.

However, I'm sure the ladies are raising rates due to the fact some may be single moms and with cost of living on the rise here in Austin cant afford it at the rate they once were.

Also, you guys mention that ladies TCB, hygiene and what have you all have a factor in if you see them or not and that's understandable. I'm sure ladies are tired of dealing with guys not showing up or canceling at the last minute. So solution is raise rate and deal with less bs.

Also some ladies are paying for 2 places, utilities are higher with water and electricity usage, and not to forget the supplies that need to be purchased.

I deal with a ton of haggling and if the guy is being respectful I will slide my rate a bit to accommodate because I very much get just as much out of my time as the lads do.

So if you guys had to choose; which would it be?

Higher rate or cancellation policy?

[Onei5430]

As I've read through these, one thing keeps coming back to my mind. In just about any profession outside this world you will never find businesses "defending" their rates. Either you like them or you don't. If you don't, you simply don't buy. So when I read things like paying for multiple places, supplies needed, cost of living, etc, etc, etc, it goes in one ear and out the other. I have a friend who is a master plumber and I've worked with him in the past. Among ourselves we would talk about the cost of doing business but never with the customer. The price is what is it. If you don't like it, call someone else. On the flip side of that coin, once we went to a customers home for work, if they caused us too much headache we simply refused to go back.

Relate all that to the hobby:
1. I don't care about your operating cost. I don't mean to be rude, but it's the cost of doing business. You're making a hell of a lot of money "per hour" so factor in the cost.
2. As with any business, if you don't operate like a business, you will eventually go broke. Know your cost of doing business and go from there. Know what the demand is and go from there. You want to make as much as possible and I want to save as much as possible. It's up to you to find the happy medium that satisfies yourself.
3. Especially in the service industry, customers come and go, good customers are nice and usually are the ones who pay your bills, treat them right but don't be afraid to walk away if need be. Great customers are worth taking care of because they are your icing on the cake. When they are in need they will be calling you more than anyone else. And everyone is going to have that one (or more) bad customers. Identify them and run.

[Austin Ellen]

Very true. When you own your own business you are the one responsible for your own net operating income. And you have to adjust accordingly. Like renting apartments. When the market is down - do specials - when the market is up - raise rates. The key is to be flexible. I'd rather have a renter that I know and will pay his rent on time then someone I have no prior experience with. And if it's a great renter - you bet I would do anything to keep them. They are the ones that will keep the apartment community stable. They are pure gold. The bad renters - well, just kick them to the curb.

As I've read through these, one thing keeps coming back to my mind. In just about any profession outside this world you will never find businesses "defending" their rates. Either you like them or you don't. If you don't, you simply don't buy. So when I read things like paying for multiple places, supplies needed, cost of living, etc, etc, etc, it goes in one ear and out the other. I have a friend who is a master plumber and I've worked with him in the past. Among ourselves we would talk about the cost of doing business but never with the customer. The price is what is it. If you don't like it, call someone else. On the flip side of that coin, once we went to a customers home for work, if they caused us too much headache we simply refused to go back.

Relate all that to the hobby:
1. I don't care about your operating cost. I don't mean to be rude, but it's the cost of doing business. You're making a hell of a lot of money "per hour" so factor in the cost.
2. As with any business, if you don't operate like a business, you will eventually go broke. Know your cost of doing business and go from there. Know what the demand is and go from there. You want to make as much as possible and I want to save as much as possible. It's up to you to find the happy medium that satisfies yourself.
3. Especially in the service industry, customers come and go, good customers are nice and usually are the ones who pay your bills, treat them right but don't be afraid to walk away if need be. Great customers are worth taking care of because they are your icing on the cake. When they are in need they will be calling you more than anyone else. And everyone is going to have that one (or more) bad customers. Identify them and run.

[quzi]

This report from Hired scared me: https://hired.com/page/state-of-salaries

[mathguy]

This report from Hired scared me: https://hired.com/page/state-of-salaries

Which part is scary quzi? Just not sure what you meant buddy.

Austin has been the fastest growing large city (1mil+ cities) for a decade.

Tech salaries have always been one of the highest salaries (well, for 35yrs or so now anyway). Many many tech workers make more than general practitioners/doctors and attorneys. Of course it depends on the field you are in, how far into your career you are, and also how successful we are talking about with the doctor or lawyer. But, yes, on average anyone in high level tech work (not entry level college grad, lower level tech support, lower level network admin, lower level programmers...) makes at least a six figure salary (or close to it 85-95 for sure) and many of them make 150k-300+k depending on geo-location, career level, etc...

Pretty much anyone who is 10-15yrs+ into the tech field, especially if they are a senior lead dev (managing small group of devs), senior devops engineer, high level technical project manager, technical program manager, Head of IT, head of technology, VP of tech, director of network systems, director of software dev, IT Manager, C level tech role, etc... will be making anywhere from 125k (lower end) to about 350k (higher end). The median prob being around 160-180k.

[saustin]

Many many tech workers make more than general practitioners/doctors and attorneys.

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The median prob being around 160-180k.

Sources?

[mathguy]

Which part saustin? Didn't know which one you meant.

The first part or the last part? If you meant the first it's in the article (essentially). I also worked with a few, one of whom had a wife that was not even just a general practice doc but she was a cardiac surgeon and he made more than her. I didn't.... haha

If you meant the latter part though I eluded that it was an educated guess, sure, but based on my career, coworkers, friends and so on that's roughly where I'd peg it (roughly).

I'll admit the latter statement (if it's what you meant?) is not heavily researched and is based on my own personal anecdotal data, with some additional knowledge from Glassdoor reports, and, again, friends, but I'm sure I could find something and give you some links. If you're curious. I'm assuming this was a genuine question? Just lemme know and I'll get some data. Have a great Sun evening my man!

[Lovinglifeinaustin]

Like MG, I too would like to know what scares quzi about the report. This phenomenon has been going on for years, and barring an economic downturn, will most likely continue. Hell, even when (not if) we have that downturn, it probably won’t affect Austin as much as other cities. Look at what happened back during the high tech debacle of 2000-2001. Austin was hurt in the short run, but rebounded nicely. Of course high tech growth will cause the cost of living to increase in Austin compared to other cities, but I don’t see it surpassing the cost of most coastal cities.

We live in an increasingly technological world. The demand for high tech talent far exceeds the supply, and thus the increases in compensation. But that’s not to say that the nontechnical among us will necessarily suffer. All industries and their employees demand certain basic services (including female companionship...hint hint). We can all benefit, except perhaps those whose jobs have been displaced by technology.

My primary concern about Austin’s growth is the inability of its leaders to build the infrastructure necessary to sustain the growth. That’s been the case in our fair city for generations. It’s getting worse.