Gents Asking For The Most In a Sesh for the least donation

[Universal]

Because i damn sure get tired of: well, i contacted a girl who will do ___ for ___... GO ON AHEAD & GO SEE HER! I use to get that all the time! Not so much now- but i understand what youre saying.

^^^ this is my exact thought also

[Guest 090919-1]

Also, until you magically grow a vagina & start providing, who are you to tell us how we should conduct our business, what we should say, etc?!

[Island_Gent]

Well since we as clients aren’t really ENTITLED to the “time”, I’m grateful enough when any provider deigns to break me off a piece of her “time”. I just remunerate her what she asks for that privilege.

If I can’t afford her price point for the “time” and activities I enjoy, I move on to a price point within my budget...simple.

[Austin Ellen]

I don't let that stuff bother me. It's not worth it. If someone asks me a question I don't like - I just ignore them or I say no. And I can do that in this business. When I was in property management or retail I had to plaster a smile on my face when someone asked me an irritating question. And that's the wonderful thing in this business - you can say no without having to get approval from a supervisor or sending 18 emails to different people letting them know how you handled a certain situation.
It's a beautiful thing to be able to have free reign over your own business.

[StopShort]

Well since we as clients aren’t really ENTITLED to the “time”, I’m grateful enough when any provider deigns to break me off a piece of her “time”. I just remunerate her what she asks for that privilege.

If I can’t afford her price point for the “time” and activities I enjoy, I move on to a price point within my budget...simple.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mathguy]

Say no?

I don’t think she meant it as complaining . She’s just frustrated. Yes, it is normal for men to ask for discounts in this business, and yes some women may budge. But they shouldn’t expect every provider to do so. Some of us constantly get messaged about discounts and, it can be frustrating when your menu is clearly stated in your profile or on your ads. She only asked for people to please stop messaging her about it. She wasn’t attacking anyone, just trying to reach a bigger audience so men in the future know not to blow up her inbox with it.

I don't let that stuff bother me. It's not worth it. If someone asks me a question I don't like - I just ignore them or I say no. And I can do that in this business. When I was in property management or retail I had to plaster a smile on my face when someone asked me an irritating question. And that's the wonderful thing in this business - you can say no without having to get approval from a supervisor or sending 18 emails to different people letting them know how you handled a certain situation.
It's a beautiful thing to be able to have free reign over your own business.

I agree with my lovely ladies here. I don't think TR was really "griping" at anyone in particular just kind of saying, "hey, that's not me so stop blowing up my phone or inbox asking....". Like Ellen said, and Cherri too, just say, "nope, sorry.". No harm no foul. It's one of the great things about your business. You don't even have to be engaging face to face with the person, as Ellen mentioned, so it's even easier and there's no repercussion (just try to be civil & cordial - unless they are being a dick of course).

The one thing that I will say which I don't quite like, not necessarily about the discount thing, is some of the "menu' talk. I get it. We say "menu" as a polite euphemism. Obviously. Of course.

The problem for me is when we start talking about sex as if it's some kind of a la carte type of restaurant order. I'm not trying to say that any girl should do anything a certain way. Do things how you wish. I also understand some girls don't want to do, for example, greek, unless they get an extra $50. Maybe that's because they don't enjoy it, it hurts, or whatever. That's totally their prerogative. It's their business. I can respect that. Totally.

Personally though I find *some* of these types of sex selling, where you get this for this much, this for this much, that for this much, and that for that much, etc etc... to be a bit distasteful. Sorry, that's just me ladies. I'm only being honest. You are all different. I respect that. I'm just saying, take away euphemisms, colloquialisms, and so on and I think sex is sex. I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather a girl post what she doesn't like (i.e. greek - not my thing anyway, bbbj, not too deep kissing...) as opposed to giving some expansive a la carte style ordering menu. It's too business-like. IOP is killed in that case IMHO. Because it's obvious she cares more about all these little pricing "add-ons" than she does about having sex so how could a guy possibly believe anything else (even with best illusion from the girl)? Unless he's just a total dingus? Lol.

I think sex, sold or not, is best when it has at the very least an organic or "somewhat" natural feel (or the best illusion of it...which isn't possible if you have this massive a la carte menu, or, "no no wait I don't do that at all....well, hmmm, unless you wanna pay x y z?"). My opinion in the immediately preceding hypothetical example is to just say nope/uh-uh and move on, deter them, give them the msg somehow (you know how), etc... **Anything else** kills it dead in its tracks. IJS.

[TexasRiley]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perfect and a gentleman

[Peabody]

I think most guys that try to bargain are use to lower price providers that upsell, so they feel its fair to try and negotiate. You can also blame other providers that list a price then always have "specials" that aren't even close to their list price. And lastly it humane nature to try and get the most bang for you buck (sorry couldn't resist).

[dmode]

Are you a provider?? Then please refrain from telling providers what they should or shouldnt do. You say shes complaining about stuff that "seems" normal...Thats just it. It isnt normal. But you wouldnt know that because you arent a provider.

This is a Coed discussion group so I would think a client commenting would be allowed. You may not agree with him and you may think that he cannot empathize with providers but you can be sure of one thing. Feedback from your target audience is potentially valuable.

[TexasRiley]

Just had BigTex3 do the same shit.
PM'd Me asking if he could Recieve my 90min PsE Menu for My Hour GFE Rate. Wtf. Smh
When i responded. He claimes he couldnt understand my ad. In an attempt to keep his options open.
Lmao but yet he understood enough to try and get a 90min PSE session and scheme that into an hour!!! Special at that!!!!?!?!?!?!?

[Great_Catch33]

I don't let that stuff bother me. It's not worth it. If someone asks me a question I don't like - I just ignore them or I say no. And I can do that in this business. When I was in property management or retail I had to plaster a smile on my face when someone asked me an irritating question. And that's the wonderful thing in this business - you can say no without having to get approval from a supervisor or sending 18 emails to different people letting them know how you handled a certain situation.
It's a beautiful thing to be able to have free reign over your own business.

The greatest post ever!

[TexasRiley]

The greatest post ever!

Yeah this might sound good but there are tons and tons of posts on Co-Ed discussion on both the main boards as well as we discuss this amongst ourselves Most ladies do not like or deal with bargaining.....a couple of females on this post saying that they're okay with it...... lmao ..... well we can probably find different post where they said the opposite miss me with the BS. Lmao .

Tons of providers ads and signatures mention its not the thing to do.

Trying to make excuses on why men should be able to disregard everything that it says in my ad and bargain me to death is just stupid.

[Kammye]

This is a Coed discussion group so I would think a client commenting would be allowed. You may not agree with him and you may think that he cannot empathize with providers but you can be sure of one thing. Feedback from your target audience is potentially valuable.

I dont need feedback from anyone on THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT unless they are a provider. Im not that obtuse to understand what feedback is. This particular subject he and you can keep youre two cents. :)


Be Blessed.

[mathguy]

My personal opinion is that Austin Ellen has the best answer.... but to dive deeper, as I usually do , let's take a further look shall we?

This topic is extremely sensitive for a variety of reasons but you really shouldn't let it bother you, as Ellen mentioned. Let's be real here. There are guys who contact "you" and are nice, respectful, gregarious, nice looking/sounding, and you might offer a discount, you might not. Some guys, apparently many (so many that it boggles my mind to think there are that many inept men ), are disgusting and you want nothing to do with them and you give them the finger (figuratively) or block them or don't reply.

The one thing I would implore many girls to try to see, barring the a-holes, total dipshits, and loads of guys who don't know the first thing about women or how to approach them (in any situation apparently), is that many of us do empathize....completely. I do. I know others do. As I've said in other threads, you have gay men that also do this on gay provider sites. I'm sure they deal with the same crap. The issue here is really not about, what is the value of selling ones body, or that asshole clients don't respect that it can really suck to sell your body as a "product". Barring those idiots I mentioned earlier, everyone, male or female, should understand that selling one's body to strangers is risky, can be disgusting, you sometimes deal with weirdos, people who want very odd things or fetishes, etc... and you as the "product" have to do it. Yes, that can suck, obviously. This is also why I think women (or gay men who do this as well) should be faaaaar more selective. It's why I have always been so vocal about the fact that client selection (whether it were for men or women) should be much more discriminating.

IMHO if I were doing it, let's say I were gay, or at least willing to do it (I'm absolutely not, it's repulsive to me), but I could easily appeal to a gay crowd on gay provider sites, I would price myself such that I got plenty of calls ringing off the hook. I would have extremely picky standards for choosing my "partners" (extremely picky). I would know what they like, don't like, what they want, what kind of work they do, hobbies, personality, what they look like, at least a detailed facial/hair/body description, their hygiene, etc... If any one thing was off when they showed up or was untrue (at least not to my satisfaction anyway).... sayonara! In this way, were I not totally repulsed by the idea of sex with a man I would only have decent encounters. I would never be made to feel abused, used, like dirt, made to do weird things, etc...

Girls you ALL have an opportunity to do this. There is zero reason any of you, ANY of you, regardless of if you have an 18yr old super model body, you're a PAWG, milf, 35, 45, or 55....or whatever should ever need or feel the reason to do a single thing you don't want to do. You should never need to lay with a man you don't want to, that disgusts you, that wants to do an act that demeans you, that asks for unsafe things you are uncomfortable with, that wants to play out some weird fantasy (to you) that you are totally not okay with, that stinks, repulses you, is a misogynistic pig, etc.... Never. Never never never. Not just because you are all beautiful unique women who should be treated with the dignity that any person desires. That's true of course. But the real reason is bc YOU don't have to. YOU hold the cards to YOUR business. You don't have to serve anyone you don't want to. Period. This is true of any business, any product, any service. But, even more so in this particular niche "underground" industry.

I think that's exactly what Austin Ellen meant and I wholeheartedly agree 100%. Just say no. Get more info about the guys. Say no. You don't have to do it. Not just the money. The money is actually the least important aspect bc it's a damn good income even if you're one of the more economically priced girls. The important part is not being made to feel like you HAVE to do things you don't want to, or that you HAVE to lay down with people you don't want to, or that you HAVE to endure being treated like some "product". You ABSOLUTELY don't have to do any of it. That's the beauty of this work and running your own business, just as Ellen said. You make the rules. That's not some hollowed out inspirational cow dung speech or quote...lol. It's the truth.

You are all lovely girls! Any guy who doesn't treat a woman the way she should be treated wasn't raised by a good mother or father. SMH.

[Austin Ellen]

This^^^^^^^^^^^^mathguy - what can I say? If I were a teacher -I would give you an A+....in that red pencil!!
Jeeze, I can't remember that well in my old age but I think back in the day --that was a good thing!