Reviews... BCD vs. OPEN

**MrGiz** · 03-15-2009, 08:57 PM

With the beginning of what may turn out to be "the" new ASPD… this new review forum we have here, presents a few opportunities to alter the way reviews are "censored"… or not. As is, now… I have seen… in some areas… "BCD" comments being encouraged to be hidden from "public" view. For 90 something percent of all comments made in any particular review… I ask… WHY? The "other" 10% of potential, controversial issues is understandable.



I wonder what the advantages are, of BCD comments not being public! In all my years of hobbying… I've never met a girl who was too shy or sheltered to be offended by positive, graphic details. Perhaps... if she were to see any criticisms.... maybe... (just maybe) she might make a few adjustments, to insure repeat business. I realize that might be a far fetched hope.... but what penalty is there to suffer from offending a girl who you may not want to see again, anyway? The same applies to an agency girl… if we mean what we say… why hide it? Any negativity posted… if it's not done in an "asshole-ish" fashion…… might serve to offer some advice to the girls. Any "asshole-ish" (or embellished) comments can be thrown into the 10%.


I say… let the level of graphic content define the character of the reviewer to everyone… including the girls… many of the girls "get off" on a guy who's willing to let it be known, what gets him off! If the girl can't handle potential criticism… maybe, they've chosen the wrong profession.
I guess, what I'm saying, here, is… the more honest the review is… the more valuable it is! I have seen recent reviews, which say " Comments: Details will be done in the locker room" …………… WHY?

Whatayathink?

Giz

P.S. - I've recently seen the discussion of the possibility of "Hobbyist Reviews". . . . done by Provider/Companions, in another "Home2" forum (N.E. Texas). Whatayathink about THAT?

**SeaDog** · 03-15-2009, 09:30 PM

To answer your last question first, Mr. Giz, I am in favor of hobbyist reviews. Active members of ASPD sometimes get pretty bad press on other boards. Mostly what I hear is about dawgs requesting discounts in excange for reviews, but I also hear stories about guys that are, at best, inconsiderate.

As far as reviews of providers are concerned, I am definitely in favor of keeping some of the comments BCD. Heaven knows I've gotten some flack about seemingly innocuous things - usually just observations - that I've put in my reviews.

Many of our girls are very insecure, and justifiably concerned with their reputations within the community. Even the tiniest criticism can, and does, blow up on us.

I think that the details of the session are fair game - should be public - and I also think the lady in question should be able to respond. But I think that the overall evaluation, including any negatives, should be BCD. If for no other reason than to save the dawg some grief and hopefully result in a more honest review.

I would like to see some changes in the process. I like the idea of grading the experience. Someone wrote a review the other day and gave a C+. To me, this was a very informative comment.

Secondly, I think that the 30-day comment rule should be suspended for the original reviewer. I see many of the girls that I review multiple times, and I would like the option of giving a follow-up note without writing a whole new review. It seems like it would make it much easier if all reviews of the same girl by the same dawg were in one thread. I know that every experience I have is different, and think that comments about follow-up encounters would be a very valuable addition to the process.

To recap:

I'm in favor of the evaluations staying BCD
I think the lady should be able to reply
I like an enhanced grading system
Suspend the 30-day rule for the original poster

SeaDog

**SeaDog** · 03-15-2009, 09:39 PM

Mr. Giz - I just read your comments about this on TrainerDisaster's "Madison" review, and do agree with your observations. Maybe a solution would be to have a 2nd comment section for those details that the reviewer wants to keep BCD?

**MrGiz** · 03-15-2009, 10:28 PM

Given the current set-up… it's up to the guy to include whatever detail he chooses for the entire review… because there are no "hidden BCD" comments. He has to file a "separate" post in another private men's forum if he wants to keep some comments from the general public view. (a futile effort, in my opinion)

I'll probably rile most of the girls here… but I disagree about them being able to reply to reviews. That would just lead to chaos, on some occasions. Let them have their own review forum of the guys. (Oh, what fun that would be!) :P

Another popular national review site has "1 thru 10" ratings for both both appearance and performance. I think that would be sufficient, as far as a grading goes.

Giz

**BIG C** · 03-16-2009, 12:36 AM

I'm also in favor of keeping comments section in a BCD restricted area mainly because it makes some guys feel more comfortable about giving a review from their perspective if they feel like they won't have to worry about suffering retaliation/flak from the lady in question.....G, both you and I have been around here long enough to know that there are way too many ladies who just don't react well to any kind of negative criticism and they'll blow up a guy's email and/or phone if they get even the slightest unflattering comment.....Now, we both also know that there are plenty of people with access to BCD material who don't have any spine and will leak information to ladies so posting BCD isn't 100% secure, but still it makes many guys feel more secure if they post the comments about their session in an area that isn't supposed to be accessible by the ladies.....

Also, the ladies have their forums in which they do review the guys and the guys don't have access to that forum and what is being said about them, so it's only fair that the guys have a place that they can talk about the ladies and not worry about retaliation from an angry provider.....

Seadog, I used to be one of the only mods that allowed woment to respond to reviews but I had to cut that out and get onboard with the rest of the mod staff because of the fact that allowing them to respond in the reviews sections caused one lady to want to start a pissing contest with a reviewer because of what she perceived as negative comments about one of her girls.....If the ladies want to respond to their review they have a way to do it, but they will NOT be allowed to post in the reviews sections (again, this goes towards not wanting to have guys being afraid to post reviews for fear of retaliation from an angry provider).....

**MrGiz** · 03-16-2009, 01:11 AM

Don't read me wrong (I doubt many are).... I DEFINITELY agree that we, as dawgs, need our own space to post commentary which might be considered offensive to the female perspective, in general!! It's just a shame that, in the olde ASPD comments section of reviews.... lots of valuable information that could have been used constructively, was lost to many who needed it most.

Another thing that I have come to realize is.... there are some girls who get off on knowing some of the graphic detail being shared.... believe it or not!!

I am not really complaining about the review process.... I just wish there was a bit more "common ground" between the sexes involved. One thing that seems to be missing from the NOLA area hobby in the past few years, has been the friendly, playful, "on-board" interaction between the sexes.... I kinda miss it.

Giz

**Southern_bella** · 03-16-2009, 02:36 AM

As one of the Lady's I'm going to jump in on this on! Spank me if ya don't like what I say!

I enjoy reading all the details of what a gent writes about a session with me (good or bad)! It helps me understand what I'm doing right or wrong, whatever the case maybe! As for lady's repling to a review, that should not be allowed. Most or some lady's can't handle the truth and will blow up over a wrong comment!

Lady's and Gents alike should have their space to post where the other can not see what is said! But we are all Adults and should be able to act like it no matter what is said about us good or bad (I know this is not how it works most of the time)! But come on people act your age not your shoe size!

I am usually a quiet Lady but no other Lady has chimed in! So that how I feel about the subject!

Now who would like to get playful as MrGiz put it? Spank me I know I misbehaved!!!

Kisses and more Boys!

**BigEasyRub** · 03-16-2009, 07:41 AM

Personally I woud like to know what a Gent thinks about our session.
I am still very NEW to the FS GFE thing. I Really want to know what I am doing right or wrong.
That way if I am doing something wrong, I can rectify the problem.
I think I can handle most criticism, unless it is down right nasty !
I want the Gent to have a GOOD time when he is with me and if he did not, I want to know so it will not happen again!

Alexandra

**tweetie-bird** · 03-16-2009, 08:17 AM

Well....I had several very insightful comments I was gonna make, but then after I real Missy's response, I started daydreaming about her....and now I forget whay I was gonna say.... I'll give you your spanking tomorrow, Missy -- you can count on it!

tweetie

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigEasyRub @ Mar 16 2009, 06:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Personally I woud like to know what a Gent thinks about our session.
I am still very NEW to the FS GFE thing. I Really want to know what I am doing right or wrong.
That way if I am doing something wrong, I can rectify the problem.
I think I can handle most criticism, unless it is down right nasty !
I want the Gent to have a GOOD time when he is with me and if he did not, I want to know so it will not happen again!

Alexandra[/b]

**tweetie-bird** · 03-16-2009, 08:19 AM

Well....I had several very insightful comments I was gonna make, but then after I real Missy's response, I started daydreaming about her....and now I forget whay I was gonna say.... I'll give you your spanking tomorrow, Missy -- you can count on it!

tweetie

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Southern_bella @ Mar 16 2009, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

As one of the Lady's I'm going to jump in on this on! Spank me if ya don't like what I say!

I enjoy reading all the details of what a gent writes about a session with me (good or bad)! It helps me understand what I'm doing right or wrong, whatever the case maybe! As for lady's repling to a review, that should not be allowed. Most or some lady's can't handle the truth and will blow up over a wrong comment!

Lady's and Gents alike should have their space to post where the other can not see what is said! But we are all Adults and should be able to act like it no matter what is said about us good or bad (I know this is not how it works most of the time)! But come on people act your age not your shoe size!

I am usually a quiet Lady but no other Lady has chimed in! So that how I feel about the subject!

Now who would like to get playful as MrGiz put it? Spank me I know I misbehaved!!!

Kisses and more Boys![/b]

**Southern_bella** · 03-16-2009, 03:13 PM

Very funny Tweety-bird! Ya know where to find me!

**SeaDog** · 03-16-2009, 06:24 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MrGiz @ Mar 15 2009, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

… because there are no "hidden BCD" comments... (a futile effort, in my opinion)[/b]

After thinking about it, I have to agree. Although I do think that providing positive (or negative) feedback to the provider is a good thing, we all know that on occasion it WILL blow up in our faces.

SeaDog

**Guest 011810-1** · 03-16-2009, 07:45 PM

Before ASPD went down, I had to get a review taken down. I contacted a mod and told him what happened (in detail) in our date and asked him to go check the bcd part, since I couldn't see what he had written bcd about the review.
The mod came back and took down the review as his story did NOT match mine at all. He lied, pure and simple. I saved our conversatons after the date to prove what I was saying.

Now with this in mind, if I had been able to read what he wrote bcd, I would have KNOWN he was telling porkies. But because you HIDE this from us ladies I had to turn 3 times, hop twice, stand on my hands and walk through fire and glasss just to find out if he told the truth or not. That is A JOKE, in itself that us women have to go through that just to make sure that you guys are getting the TRUTH of what happened in the date.

Having to contend with this BS, why should us women even want reviews and the BS that we have to deal with to keep it real for you guys. And showing everyone the reviews will assure that you guys get a true review instead of a review where he knows we can't see him beating his chest for you guys. BS! Those are not TRUE reviews and you guys know it. If your telling the truth then you have NOTHING to hide. Simple enough, I say.

To be honest being graded is rude of you men to do to us, I think. How would you like it if we rated you? I'm on another board and the men do the reviews in the open and its working very nicely. What is the problem here guys? These other guys are having no problems at all. The women even review the men and we LIKE IT...so do they.

I don't know what the answer is to this problem but you guys DO NEED to get it together AND be fair to us ladies. Until then I don't want anymore reivews. I dont' want to have to waste my time trying to make sure that you guys get the truth in a review and I can't even get the truth from them! The way the reviews are done on aspd, you NEED to find another way.
My 2 cents worth.
June

**bodilly** · 03-16-2009, 08:07 PM

I say put the whole review in the open. If a lady or anyone in general don't what they are doing wrong how can they fix it. If as everyone acts like an adult there should be no problems. I know the big word is IF.

If there is something a guy is too scared or uncomfortable saying that happened then he can post in the locker room or Simply say PM me if you have any questions.

The trick is that we as reviewers use the review for what is and tactfully point out the short comings of the appointment.
In return the ladies should except the review for what it is. A personal opinion of the time that reviewer had with that lady.
Just my opinion and ya know what thats good for.

Still trying to catch my my breath.

**BIG C** · 03-16-2009, 08:35 PM

So June, how come you seem to NOT have a problem with all the ladies only boards out there where guys are discused and reviewed and completely lied on because some crazy-assed provider has an agenda to try to ruin him and his rep.....Guys are talked about on these boards and the guys have absolutely zero ways to combat that because unlike the weak dick guys who share BCD info with ladies in hopes of gaining some favor from her, MOST of the ladies in the ladies areas don't come back and share what was said about guys in the ladies forums......This works both ways in that guys need to be able to post things without fear of retaliation from an immature provider whose feelings got hurt, and ladies need to be able to post things in ladies only forums and areas where they don't have to worry about guys getting their feelings hurt and retaliating......It works both ways and at least on ASPD if a lady didn't want reviews she can have the option to ask for a no review policy, whereas, the guys can't go to a mod and ask that he NOT be discussed in the ladies areas.....

On another note, I wonder what made you contact a mod about a review that you shouldn't have been able to read what was said in the review......No need to answer that here because that's NOT what this thread was about.....But, it does go to illustrate one of my earlier statements about how people link BCD material.....If all ladies and gentlemen in this lifestyle would act their ages and conduct themselves as adults, then there would be less of a need for gender restricted areas......But since we know that that's NOT the case, then ASPD (and now home2) has restricted access areas just the same as many other escort review boards and I think they should remain as it is......

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