Being stiffed on time

[atlcomedy]

One other thought....possession is 9/10ths of ownership.....once she has the envelope or donation or however you do it don't expect a refund.....

[lacensatin]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quiet Smiles @ Feb 25 2009, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Most GFE providers don&#39;t operate that way. If anything, we tend to go over on time and are rarely compensated for the extra. Typically, GFE providers enjoy kissing and snuggling and wouldn&#39;t think of jumping up and leaving like that. We are also much more about pleasing the gentleman and unless it&#39;s something we just don&#39;t do, like greek or something, we go with what the gentleman wants to do. I can&#39;t imagine ignoring a request like that and forcing the gentleman pop asap.

However, some providers operate under a different set rules. A lot of them say in their ads "up to an hour" - that&#39;s code for "you pop, I leave." I would hope that previous reviews would tip a guy off to which kind of experience he can likely expect - that way he can choose a provider who&#39;s more in tune with his idea of fun. ;)[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fancyinheels @ Feb 25 2009, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I love rejuvenation breaks. &#39;Tis a nice time to cuddle and talk, or just purrrrrrr if content.

I can&#39;t add much to the wisdom shared by Quiet Smiles. I have never yet ended a session early, and 99% of the time, I go over by choice. I treat my gentlemen callers the way that I would any lover. Rushing is just not GFE, and not the way I&#39;d want to be treated by a boyfriend. Goodness, if someone jumped up right after the fun and darted off like a scared bunny, I&#39;d be checking myself for coodies. :P I also think it absolutely absurd to limit "pops." Now, really, what lady would put up with it if her man said, "Sorry, hon, only one orgasm tonight." [/b]

I totally agree with these two posts...even as a new Provider, I could not imagine that it would be good business practice to leave early. You have donated for my TIME, so whatever happens during that time is great...but I will not shorten that time, that would be cheating you out of what you were expecting, and like Quiet Smiles, I tend to go over...not watching the clock.

[tdb4ar]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quiet Smiles @ Feb 25 2009, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Most GFE providers don&#39;t operate that way. If anything, we tend to go over on time and are rarely compensated for the extra. Typically, GFE providers enjoy kissing and snuggling and wouldn&#39;t think of jumping up and leaving like that. We are also much more about pleasing the gentleman and unless it&#39;s something we just don&#39;t do, like greek or something, we go with what the gentleman wants to do. I can&#39;t imagine ignoring a request like that and forcing the gentleman pop asap.

However, some providers operate under a different set rules. A lot of them say in their ads "up to an hour" - that&#39;s code for "you pop, I leave." I would hope that previous reviews would tip a guy off to which kind of experience he can likely expect - that way he can choose a provider who&#39;s more in tune with his idea of fun. ;)[/b]

Smiles, I couldn&#39;t agree more. I try to spend time with GFE providers because they enjoy their time and aren&#39;t in a rush to get you out the door. Assume that if the provider says GFE that 1) popping isn&#39;t the finale and 2) she is sincere that her time with you will be enjoyed by both parties.

[Tia Travels]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (maxx @ Feb 25 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I too have had some providers get up and put their clothes on after a shortened session. I&#39;ve noticed it&#39;s usually the younger girls, seems they&#39;re out just to make the $$ and not concerned if you&#39;ll ever return or call them again. I have questioned "is my time up?" only to get a bleak stare as to "YEP". I&#39;ve learned to ask questions like "is there 2nd ops with an hour session?" or "Can we start with a 1/2 hr and possibly make it an hour?". Especially if it&#39;s your 1st meeting with the lady. I&#39;ve found most are receptive and will try to accomodate your needs or wants. Once you find a good one you click with you will return again & again. Good Luck and Happy Hobbying!!![/b]

These are ladies who need to be reviewed on if they state an hour and cut you short like that. I would have asked for more time...even if she wouldn&#39;t give you another pop, request a massage, etc. Tell her that her ad states, the donation is for her time and you&#39;ve paid for an hour....this is assuming that you aren&#39;t a jerk and that is not the reason she cut you off timewise.

I do not think it&#39;s a good idea to say: "Can we start with a 1/2 hr and possibly make it an hour?" if you&#39;re already in the room. Perhaps on the phone while you&#39;re making the appt. you can suggest that, but once you schedule an hour, it&#39;s not fair to stay just a half. So it goes both ways. I&#39;ve heard about gents who schedule 2 hours, show up, stay a half and then say..."well, I only stayed a half so I&#39;m only paying for a half." You can be sure he&#39;s going to go on the badlist.

Uh-uhhhhhhh.....you&#39;ve blocked out 2 hours of her schedule where she could have been with someone who was willing to pay for her time, you should pay her for the time you scheduled. If you decide to leave early, it&#39;s your call. But with the provider cutting the gent off like that....yeah...you guys need to be spreading the word that the lady runs her business per pop and not over time. Not necessarily reeming her for it but letting your fellow hobbyists know how she operates so these types of things don&#39;t happen to you gents unexpectedly.

[maxx (no longer active here)]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (escg @ Feb 27 2009, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

These are ladies who need to be reviewed on if they state an hour and cut you short like that. I would have asked for more time...even if she wouldn&#39;t give you another pop, request a massage, etc. Tell her that her ad states, the donation is for her time and you&#39;ve paid for an hour....this is assuming that you aren&#39;t a jerk and that is not the reason she cut you off timewise.

I do not think it&#39;s a good idea to say: "Can we start with a 1/2 hr and possibly make it an hour?" if you&#39;re already in the room. Perhaps on the phone while you&#39;re making the appt. you can suggest that, but once you schedule an hour, it&#39;s not fair to stay just a half. So it goes both ways. I&#39;ve heard about gents who schedule 2 hours, show up, stay a half and then say..."well, I only stayed a half so I&#39;m only paying for a half." You can be sure he&#39;s going to go on the badlist.

Uh-uhhhhhhh.....you&#39;ve blocked out 2 hours of her schedule where she could have been with someone who was willing to pay for her time, you should pay her for the time you scheduled. If you decide to leave early, it&#39;s your call. But with the provider cutting the gent off like that....yeah...you guys need to be spreading the word that the lady runs her business per pop and not over time. Not necessarily reeming her for it but letting your fellow hobbyists know how she operates so these types of things don&#39;t happen to you gents unexpectedly.[/b]

The times it happened was early on when I started the hobby. I&#39;ve learned that most ladies are very caring and attentive to the time being paid for. As I said I it was the young girls that pulled that. I don&#39;t recall ever being stiffed (lol) by the more mature ladies. All in all I can say that I do prefer the more experienced ladies and the attention they give to our time together. Though it&#39;s nice to venture to the younger side once in a while!!!

[wicked milf]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quiet Smiles @ Feb 25 2009, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Most GFE providers don&#39;t operate that way. If anything, we tend to go over on time and are rarely compensated for the extra. Typically, GFE providers enjoy kissing and snuggling and wouldn&#39;t think of jumping up and leaving like that. We are also much more about pleasing the gentleman and unless it&#39;s something we just don&#39;t do, like greek or something, we go with what the gentleman wants to do. I can&#39;t imagine ignoring a request like that and forcing the gentleman pop asap.

However, some providers operate under a different set rules. A lot of them say in their ads "up to an hour" - that&#39;s code for "you pop, I leave." I would hope that previous reviews would tip a guy off to which kind of experience he can likely expect - that way he can choose a provider who&#39;s more in tune with his idea of fun. ;)[/b]

Agree!


My view on the difference between Mature women & younger girls (in this hobby) (duley noted that there MAY be an exception).


Younger gals are like roller coasters: you get a quick fast thrill and then it abruptly comes to a halt. (that&#39;s a provider)
Mature women are like a ferris wheel: you get to savor the ride for a while, all while enjoying the intimacy/closeness and the pleasure of enjoying
the ride a second or 3rd time. It seems like an never ending ride! (this is a GFE companion).

[Slowhanz57]

Most often, it happens with gals under thirty or gals new to the biz, or gals from CL or BP. This is precisely why I never see gals from CL or BP, seldom under thirty, or seldom before they&#39;ve been around long enough for the &#39;new&#39; to wear off, i.e. no Flavor (or flake) of the month... If the words &#39;up to an hour&#39; ever appear anywhere in her ad, she&#39;s permanently persona non grata for me. You can&#39;t say "up to an hour" and say "GFE" in the same place. It&#39;s a different mindset. It&#39;s a habit she&#39;ll never break. I research exhaustively to cut down on the likelihood of it happening to start with.

Regards,

[ALEA]

You have paid for time. If she cuts your time short you should mention something about it.
If she is leaving bcuz you are a jerk and cuts your time short by a significant amount.. she owes you money back.
to only give you 30 mins when you have paid for an hour is wrong. Bad biz and others should know not to see her. I find it really odd that more than one person has done this to you.

If you book an hour and only want to stay 30mins and she doesnt&#39; sell half hours... then you should leave the hour fee.

[nickyAustin]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wicked milf @ Feb 28 2009, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Agree!


My view on the difference between Mature women & younger girls (in this hobby) (duley noted that there MAY be an exception).


Younger gals are like roller coasters: you get a quick fast thrill and then it abruptly comes to a halt. (that&#39;s a provider)
Mature women are like a ferris wheel: you get to savor the ride for a while, all while enjoying the intimacy/closeness and the pleasure of enjoying
the ride a second or 3rd time. It seems like an never ending ride! (this is a GFE companion).[/b]

I am a 20 year old provider and I will often at times give back part of the donation to my boyfriends if they don&#39;t stay as long as they planned for whatever reason. Things come up and people should be compromising on both sides. Every girl has there own set of rules but it really just comes down to doing your research before you set up a date.

Oxox Nicky

[maxx (no longer active here)]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NickyAustin @ Feb 28 2009, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I am a 20 year old provider and I will often at times give back part of the donation to my boyfriends if they don&#39;t stay as long as they planned for whatever reason. Things come up and people should be compromising on both sides. Every girl has there own set of rules but it really just comes down to doing your research before you set up a date.

Oxox Nicky[/b]

Kudos to you Nicky!!! I may just have to make a trip to Austin!

[maxx (no longer active here)]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wicked milf @ Feb 28 2009, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Agree!


My view on the difference between Mature women & younger girls (in this hobby) (duley noted that there MAY be an exception).


Younger gals are like roller coasters: you get a quick fast thrill and then it abruptly comes to a halt. (that&#39;s a provider)
Mature women are like a ferris wheel: you get to savor the ride for a while, all while enjoying the intimacy/closeness and the pleasure of enjoying
the ride a second or 3rd time. It seems like an never ending ride! (this is a GFE companion).[/b]

Wicked Milf I like your way of thinking. The more mature ladies are usually a much more satisfying experience because you make the time, as you say savorable and I like the 2nd or 3rd time, never ending ride, yes!!!

There are some younger providers though that take time with you and do as much as they can to make your visit a memorable one, you know who I&#39;m talking about Sonya!!!

[TheHorseTrainer]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wicked milf @ Feb 28 2009, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Agree!


My view on the difference between Mature women & younger girls (in this hobby) (duley noted that there MAY be an exception).


Younger gals are like roller coasters: you get a quick fast thrill and then it abruptly comes to a halt. (that&#39;s a provider)
Mature women are like a ferris wheel: you get to savor the ride for a while, all while enjoying the intimacy/closeness and the pleasure of enjoying
the ride a second or 3rd time. It seems like an never ending ride! (this is a GFE companion).[/b]

I so agree ! I hope some one would say something if I am accidently rushing anything!

If I have and it ends early I will gladly extend it on another visit! I do not watch the clock at all. I leave alot up to the gentleman, however I hope no one ever takes advantage of this. I will say something and expect compensation.

I love to snuggle and talk, laying there naked if the pops are done. Rubbing his body, relaxing and kissing.

Are you a BFE companion?

[charlestudor2005]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ALEA @ Feb 28 2009, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I find it really odd that more than one person has done this to you.[/b]

The implication here is that because this happened two times, I am a jerk. However, I think that I am just a victim of my own "newbieness" to the hobby. The first young lady who stiffed me on time was a CL pick on which I had done no research. My own fault. She was young, and although she did provide CFS, she definitely was not a GFE and did not allow DATY (or even know what it was--I had to explain), nor anything else other than the CG pop. And I did review her in the Houston ASPD side of reviews.

However, the second time I did my research, and expected so much more. And was disappointed.

I would also like to say something about the various theories that have been posted. First of all, I was reared to be a man of my word: if I agree to pay for an hour, I do just that. Nothing deters me from that conduct. I have been with providers where we did finish early, and the provider offered to reduce the donation somewhat and I declined. My point of view is that I asked her to set aside an hour and she expected that income, and we just ended early. I live up to my end of the bargain by standing by my commitment. I doubt that I will under any circumstances suggest a lesser amount than the original agreement.

On the other hand, if the provider ends the session early, especially if it is a significant amount of time, I would hope that the provider would offer to reduce the amount, then it would be up to me to accept or deny that offer. If it is just 10 or 15 minutes, I would probably deny. However, if we are reaching the half hour point, that is another story. And the reduction might not be 1/2. Most providers post a half hour rate, and it is generally not 1/2 of the hour rate, it is more to encourage booking a full hour. So it might be the half hour rate.

Additionally, a word to providers: I do surf different sites and find your rate structures confusing. The rate posted on your website does not agree with P411 and does not agree with ASPD and so forth. I want the rate most beneficial to me. However, if I wind up donating less than what you expect, I&#39;m afraid you will post to other providers that I stiffed you on the donation. I do want the best rate, but a little clarity here would be nice.

Thanks for providing this space in which to post these observations. As a newbie, I have found it extremely helpful.

[TheHorseTrainer]

The best thing to do when searching for the best rate is to send a message thru that board. Say p411 offers the best rate, then send the lady a request thru there. Not all ladies are across the board rate wise. Some boards warrant a different rate range.

If she is running a special like on this board then send a pm here. Or when emailing note which ad you are referring to. That should help with any future nervousness.

Good luck!

[cpi3000]

It happens. This is where you, the hobbyist, need to learn to be assertive and remind them you have engaged them for an hour and that time is not quite yet up.

It is not unusual for the sex to take less than half an hour, but an escort worthy of the name and the rate, should learn to give you the hour of her time that you paid for. We have other needs than just physical.


Don&#39;t give them the money until the job is done. If they insist on leaving the moment you have popped, do us all a favor and just lop their heads off on the spot. Thank you. :P