Can anyone log into Eccie?

[Raikage]

I will forever be indebted to ck1942 for keeping the hobby alive.

[winndixie]

I will forever be indebted to ck1942 for keeping the hobby alive.

But what happens jan 1st 2019 if ck is put in cuffs and this site gets shut down? All the proxies and out of country servers will not matter if the govt. wants him! The hobby will adapt and move on! Although a lot of providers will suffer until the void is filled!

[ck1942]

But what happens jan 1st 2019 if ck is put in cuffs and this site gets shut down? All the proxies and out of country servers will not matter if the govt. wants him! The hobby will adapt and move on! Although a lot of providers will suffer until the void is filled!

Well, well, well. True colors came out earlier in WD's PMs to management.

And the subsequent ban imposed has nothing to do with ^^^ this post, which I saw only two minutes ago.

My official reply is: The First Amendment and a bunch of other legalese.

(and a contingency plan that has been in place more than 6 months now)

Better bet on a more sure thing like the Dow stock average or global warming or maybe Bitcoins going back to $25K USD.

ijs and

Happy Hobbying!

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check signals in my signature!

[Precious_b]

Well, well, well. True colors came out earlier in WD's PMs to management.

And the subsequent ban imposed has nothing to do with ^^^ this post, which I saw only two minutes ago.
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I wouldn't figure you'd take action against a person for posting what you quoted.

[ck1942]

I wouldn't figure you'd take action against a person for posting what you quoted.

WD cut his own bolt of cloth behind the scenes; violated some basics, like following through on staff instructions.

My skin way thicker than any might suspect.

My comments above were made to offset any speculation about motive.

It just happened to be his final post.

[aYOUNGprincess]

ECCIE: FEED THE BIRDS

I am greatful my viison is with me an my faith has made me whole
(whole-wheat BREAD-se-dent with Butter ) crumbs in trunk for birds
I have faith in my (ORGAN HEALER AN whoms running OPERATIONS of my organs in body everyday)
isn't always easy to have faith when we get sick an come down with COLD or diabetes
I have faith in my creater that isnt always easy to repair heal like
a nation that starveth for salvation as singer :JEWL has written
I think of a soda pop nation of sugar drinks the soda escorting
escorting our fecies down our intestines an Collins then out our ANUS
( AN-US hand-us crown diamonds)
hand us crown diamonds
not cup diamond looking ICE MINUS the soda pop
hand us crown diamonds not a TUBE HEMMORIOD CREAM= THC
see I almost lost my vision earlier this month an recall VISION 2020
as a presidency ad'Slogan RUNNING for PRESIDENT or was it major of
our town I was alittle girl SLOGAN I was paid to go door to door handing out
papers/flyers like papers folded for flying planes my brother made I was young
should been a young princess on aplane private instead handing out papers to make paper plans
( paper play planes akak the birds called paper birds)
I was handing out working at age 7 going door to door with my sister
for a man that was running an I was paid 5o an hour that's $5./0HOUR
I don't think that man won after I passed out those flyers for him yet he paid me an my sister anyway
he went by name BEEMER like BEEM me up scotty
beem me up to either military or alian starship one might say beem me up I cant see scotty like you
can cover your eyes like a blindfold made of tiloet paper I think scotty an
"TOYSTORY " an BUZZ light year NATRAUL light BUZZ you can buy this for any "young prince/princess"
an if short on cash don't STRESS YOUR ASS use the ASS paper an wrap it LIKE TERWRAP that's TERWRAP
"TOY STORY MOVIE AN TOYS" great DISNEY gift for the season ah yes an then
the song lyrics year was 2525 pops in my head I will google an search for that name song

I am glad to have eyes be able to watch Disney movies and see everymorning
Disney princess movies Cinderella an snow white
"yet Marilyn manson current Tour :DEADLY apples I don't think that is nice like ice an applejuice"
I think Marilyn manson making fun me often like snowwhite an seven drwarfs like snow white ICE an seven different sodas I think seven deadly sins an Sinbad an ocean travel world an seven seas ..... That's enough of Marilyn manson an this TOUR NAME I am not OK with
yet I'm glad to have ears to hear MUSIC taste buds my mouth to taste soda juices an thankful two feet to walk with.
I'm glad to have ears to hear Birds an nose an lungs to smell air even if it aint fresh mountain air ^^
like ARKANSAS I'm greatful an I am greatful an thanksful
I think of birds flying in air with perfect BIRD vision
and year of the birds if there was such a thing in chinesee thers
always a year of dog,pig any for BIRDS? ^^ Id love visit China
Love to travel like the BIRDS an fly , when I was a "young president I mean a young princess
my grandma would play song by her feet an rock in her chair :
song,when I die halleluya by an by I'll fly away, ill fly away dear GLORY (glory-hole)
I'll fly away , an I re'call Marilyn mansons TOUR one of last HALLELUYA TOUR BIRDS OF HELL
he sand an posted his website "BIRDS OF HELL ARE WAITING" I think
a.resident eveil birds flesh infected meat b.the birds I killed I was young
in a airconditener a nest babybirds I pored bleach on because they carried mites
I was taght to KILL birds insects like ants an roaches I wa syoung an MICE an BIRDS
taught to kill BIRDS from the gutters when I was told an taught clean back patio gutters
I was taught by same woman rocking in her rocking chair to run a hose to drow them an then clean
gutters with bleach as one would clean out FILTERS to a soda machine , of which I was told can be
very dirty between cleaning makes me think of a liver an cleaning with dialysis an not sure if
diabtes is related to that or the BIRD-FLU to needing dialysis o wait that's KIDNEYS not LIVER yes?

speaking organs

Thank you is reason for season thank you for my organs my heart lungs my brain
Thank you for my viison my eyes that I have this time year the greatest gift
of all besides my lungs breathing my heart beating MY VISION most of all

I also think of Birds ^^ an holiday season an reason for
giving gifts on tees like making peanut butter
BIRDSEEDTREETS to hand on trees instead of threats
terroist threats an threats of ones vision loss^^much cause
either TOO MUCH SUGAR SPIKES in blood sugar SODA POP
or Maybe to much acidy in blood from sugar or perhaps being LOW
from blood sugar HYPO-GLO-CE-MIC in that cause the lack of sugar
an the ^^ reminds me that HIGH of the mountains DIABETIC SUGAR HIGH
that symbols^^ mountains:HOME president CLINTON,BILL an mountains
wher BIRDS fly high in air above the mountains I think EAGLES birds the band eagles
an think of the waves ocean wher seagulls fly an then speaking holidays an reason
seeing ^^feeding the birds like sightseeing an tourist not terroist
OCEAN tourist sightseeing an feeding the birds id love go see the world travel
the world an the seven seas^^ yet I am without a houseboat for the holidays
an having vision trouble myself with the diabetes and hypoglocemic The drs haven't
decidied which one to actually classified it as other than NUERAPOTHY an EMPATHY^^
NE that's initials to Neurapothy an empathy that sempathy to the birds reason I feed
I like to do my hobby of HOBBO on the street Christmas an hang presents edible
underwaer for birds with peanut butter an seeds like shit in underwear yet tasty
I like to give them nuts under tree for squierlls an make a coffeecake/cc for birds

Alfred Hitchcock THE BIRDS I haven't seen the original nor seen the entire remake
yet I enjoy a good cake an remake of feeding them yearly a great place in
Oklahoma with a good view of the ^^mountains is LAWTON speaking the LAW
the amendments the constitution the LAW the presidency militerry ,Militerry base
Lawton houses many militerry I was down there years ago around intered the
militerry area by mistake an almost got shot I wa swith my husband at time
an he refused to turn around the gate guards told us turn around an had guns/firearms
my husband an I was trying get to the mountains/water ^^ to camp an see the beauty
theres a wonderful view near Lawton Oklahoma called medicine park an another
couple other camping sites there with various names yet same color souroundings
I'm sure the color of beauty.
Beauty an beast could be called our ride/trip we had getting there from
arkansa
beauty was the view an beast was the journey ,not the best journey id still
love to have 4 personal house boats north south
east an west^+^ Upside down=w, that's w,est
(1)Florida (2)MAINE/newfoundland (3)? (4)?

I think of N/s/e/w an think of united states being like a BIRDS TREE /HOLIDAY TREE
I think of EYES id draw on the tree for vision NEAR the top^^mountaians near top
of the tree an think of mouth in middle like many TORNADOES that "open WIDE to EAT"
an the bird seed TREETS hanging on tree to feed the nation of birds I think MCDONALDS
fast food for feeding an happymeals like BIRD houses an I don't know many birds other than
ones at Walmart parking lot that will drink soda from cups yet theres one particular place I like
to leave a cup for them to drink next to Walmart in parking lot is trees that have fecies all under
stained street )isn't staind a band name too?) anyhoo the streets are paved with GOLD_SHIT its gold
to me because I love the Companion of these craetures even if just for five O the five minutes that I
leave a cup to drink an I realize that the birds wasn't NORMAL BIRDS they was BATTS an
that wanst just BIRDSHIT it was BATTSHIT an the birds of night (BATTS) didn't come down to dine on bread
that night or drink yet wa svery loud like choir in church an music class we had in school I use to sing with
very loud an greatful to be alive . The reason: Walmart ^^ and that's where your see crows drinking piles
Fluid off ground an I try leave cup water I CUTT in half an leav eeevn soda if I got it handful seed
or bread crumbs the reason for the season.

The reason I'm posting this is sharing I enjoyed typing it an enjoyed sharing maybe if your missing eccie
you may go out an feed the birds if you don't have any go to a Walmart there is many birds there to feed

BIRDS_A_DENT VVIFE
E'cc'ie Presidents wife

[Stewie griffen]

What on earth is this rambling nonsense? ^^^

Please stop derailing the thread with random insanity.

[Agent220]

But what happens jan 1st 2019 if ck is put in cuffs and this site gets shut down? All the proxies and out of country servers will not matter if the govt. wants him! The hobby will adapt and move on! Although a lot of providers will suffer until the void is filled!

Good riddance to him.

[Caseykk]

Good riddance to him.

Good riddance to the guy who set this whole site up ? I think some people forget the risks he’s dealing with to keep the hobbying going.

[Agent220]

Good riddance to the guy who set this whole site up ? I think some people forget the risks he’s dealing with to keep the hobbying going.

I should have clarified myself a bit better, my apologies.

I was talking about WD; not the admins. Never seen such a more...I'll stop before I get put into timeout.

[ck1942]

Folks, time for some chill, please.

The trolls, bless their cotton pickin little ... ummm ... whatevers, will obviously attempt to penetrate (OMG, is that a sexy word or not!) every barrier pitched. If not nauseate!

Not to worry about stray electrons. Or narrow minds.

Staff has a wide broom and can clean up or out the trash as necessary.

Meanwhile, as I mentioned to a gal pal a few minutes ago:

Life goes on. The eccie issues will be explained or resolved sooner or later.

Meanwhile lets concentrate on this existing community (here since 2009!) and even more so lets concentrate on having fun!

and new and important! Please read!

[danielle silver]

Lol. I will pitch my barrier for you to penetrate.

Hahaha.. Whats life without a sense of humor..

[mathguy]

But what happens jan 1st 2019 if ck is put in cuffs and this site gets shut down? All the proxies and out of country servers will not matter if the govt. wants him! The hobby will adapt and move on! Although a lot of providers will suffer until the void is filled!

This part is pretty absurd. Jan 1st 2019 is not a magic day first of all. The law is in effect. The only difference is new USC statutes will be printed. This idea and speculation that they will somehow "attack" in 2019 is a bit silly.

And, further more why on earth would an agency even care to go after something that is not their target audience? Additionally, no, you are wrong, the offshore servers are a huge reason it's much easier. They don't want "him" (nor anyone else... not really... except those committing serious trafficking violations and child pornography or that have ENORMOUS exposure (i.e. yea I would also have been somewhat worried were I an owner of, say, an ECCIE type place with 500K+ users).

Btw.... you can't just "shut the sites down". Guys, let me explain something. The owners basically have to voluntarily shut down. There is absolutely no way any government agency can shutdown the vast majority of any of these sites. For one they have zero jurisdiction in most cases. Another problem is they have no idea nor any way to know who owns it (Tor, Onion, VPN proxies, dark web, etc....). Even if they wanted to there is a lengthy process of working with foreign governments, finding where the server is even located, getting cooperation, it would take a GOOD LONG WHILE (even supposing they did want to try to go that far) if the anonymous owner were not simply taking it down on their own (b/c they just didn't want to deal with the hassle or the microscope on them or whatever their reasons).

It's also just a bit hyperbolic b/c that's not really what they care about so, so much (places like OH2 I mean). Not really. The issue is people who are being forced, coerced, threatened, beaten, drugged, used as drug mules, slave maids, sex slaves, underage labor, etc... Yes, it's technically illegal. Yea. Duhhhhh. All of it is. Always has been. Like....forever basically. But that's not really what they care about. They care about the literally millions of underage girls (and boys), used as drug mules, suicides caused due to forced sex or slave labor, boys/girls taken from other countries, forced to do slave labor, or sex slavery, underage the vast vast majority of the time as well. THAT is the huge concern. No it doesn't make plain jane prostitution legal. But nothing ever did. What they care about are the millions of trafficked women into the US or occurring in the US. By and large that's the major hot button issue.

The weird part is why would the web server still be running then? That's so odd...extremely so. And why would the DNS entries still be current on NS and NS2? Also, why would the host provider not simply shut the server down? It's definitely not down b/c like I said you can do the above requests and it responds. You can also ping 77.245.52.4.
We'll see what happens........

I don't have any definite answers, but I have three guesses on some of the things you question.

Keeping the DNS entries current is important if the host wants to be able to bring ECCIE back with a flip of a switch (like if they didn't pay, or there's some Dutch court decision/warrant pending). DNS entries take time to propagate throughout the world.

I'm less confident about my second guess, which is regarding the server being up. What if it's a multi-homed, shared server? In other words, the hardware is still running because there are other websites being hosted on the same hardware. I have a server at home that has two IP addresses, which allows me to do some cool things. I know they can do a lot more in a NOC.

And all the cute pages and stuff might just be SOP for them. They replace the customer's files with a standard set of files that shows that there's nothing wrong with their hardware/software and that they've intentionally taken a customer's website offline for some reason.

Thanks for the comment Crock. Let me try to explain. My questions were basically rhetoric. I wasn't actually asking

You are correct that DNS entries take time to propagate, though these days they basically make a worldwide propagation within hours (24hrs tops for the most part).
Now, as for the server being up, you have a decent idea when you refer to the multi-homing (basically in a NOC this is a load balanced and/or shared virtual private server - VPS - cluster typically running on a Hypervisor, VMWare, or other Virtualizor server software).
However the IP's are still unique.
And even if you bind a single IP to multiple virtual servers using the hosts file in Apache by adding <Virtual Host> directives you still wouldn't have the domain (in this case "eccie.net") respond to the request unless the server were actually alive.

I've run a packet analysis on it as well as FF dev tools and Google dev toolbox. The server is up. The packet response is a 403 forbidden.

You are going in the right direction and have some good ideas but it's not exactly that. The server is alive. They just voluntarily took the files offline by making anonymous public access forbidden (which results in a 403). You can do this easily by opening up Google Dev Toolbox, load the page, and check the HTTP response headers for www.eccie.net they will come back with 403.

Anyway, yes, it appears to be voluntarily left for dead. And soon you will see the true 404 URL not found error once the host provider shuts them down. Thanks for the comments though and taking time to read my reply. Appreciate your input.

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The last thing I'm going to say is similar to what CK already said. Chill folks. There is this site. Others will be around. I also have it on good authority (through a very reputable source) that another one is coming online soon. Take a breather. Relax. It's all good. Girls too. Trust me, it's called the oldest profession in the world for a reason. A simple anti-trafficking law that essentially updates some safe harbor language and adds some other threatening type wording, oh by the way, all while still conflicting with various other free speech rights, freedom of information, activism/acts/rights/etc, and so on, is not going to stop it. Not even close. It will help with various trafficking issues though (to an extent). As it should. Those are not good. Not good at all.

-MG