Haven't seen much discussion on the recent changes to Texas law. Starting Septemeber 1, 2021 a first offense of Solicitation becomes a felony. That's going to put a real damper on my hobbying activites. Thoughts?
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Haven't seen much discussion on the recent changes to Texas law. Starting Septemeber 1, 2021 a first offense of Solicitation becomes a felony. That's going to put a real damper on my hobbying activites. Thoughts?
Hmmmm, I didn't see that in the Texas Penal code website.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/D.../htm/PE.43.htm
If you are referring to house bill 2795, I don’t believe it passed. There was another thread on that subject.
https://home.ourhome2.net/showthread...y-to-the-hobby
I am referring to HB 1540, signed by both houses of legislature on 5/31, signed by governor on 6/16, effective on 9/1.
Sec. 43.021. SOLICITATION OF PROSTITUTION.
SECTION 29. Sections 43.02(b) and (c-1), Penal Code, are
transferred to Section 43.021, Penal Code, as added by this Act,
redesignated as Sections 43.021(a) and (b), Penal Code,
respectively, and amended to read as follows:
(a) A person commits an offense if the person
knowingly offers or agrees to pay a fee to another person for the
purpose of engaging in sexual conduct with that person or another.
(b) An offense under Subsection (a) is a state
jail felony, except that the offense is:
(1) a felony of the third degree if the
actor has previously been convicted of an offense under Subsection
(a) or under Section 43.02(b), as that law existed before September
1, 2021; or
(2) a felony of the second degree if the person with
whom the actor agrees to engage in sexual conduct is:
(A) younger than 18 years of age, regardless of
whether the actor knows the age of the person at the time of the
offense;
(B) represented to the actor as being younger
than 18 years of age; or
(C) believed by the actor to be younger than 18
years of age.
Likely because it is not currently the law. It will be on Sept 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universal
https://legiscan.com/TX/bill/HB1540/2021
I saw hb 1540 later, but was confused as to what provisions made it to the governor for his signature. I will assume your post is the correct one.
My hobby days may be over, except for my regulars who I can trust.
Come September 1 I think a lot of legitimate guys will drop out of the hobby. Some people are just more headline worthy than others. I can just see DAs trying to pump up their numbers and spinning it as reducing trafficking and as doing good in the community while pandering to the churchies that vote.
Certainly won't be chasing ugly women. If I am caught , I am sure it can be plead to a lower level. Just when you thought legal sex work was on the horizon, they pull this crap.
Thankfully donations are never handed off directly and are for "time and companionship" only. No idea how they could justifiably skirt that loophole.
I did some further reading for my own interest, keeping ourselves safe is of utmost importance & from what I'm reading, the additional changes was related to facilities
https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/8b/8d/r7KqtnSR_t.jpg
https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/5d/43/mOctnaVt_t.jpg
After letting the dust settle on the Texas 87th Legislative session and doing my research, here is the end game answer in my opinion. Starting September 1, 2021, Solicitation of Prostitution will be a State Jail Felony for the FIRST offense unless it involves a minor. In which case, it is a 2nd degree felony. Furthermore, the law as written does NOT AFFECT 43.02(a) which relates to the ladies (offers to RECEIVE). This change only affects those offering to PAY (the hobbyists).
SJ feloneys carry a punishment range of no less than 6 months and no more than 2 years in a SJ facility which is day for day time and a fine not to exceed $10,000. You could qualify for some participation credits but they are rarely given.
3rd degree feloneys carry a punishment range of no less than 2 and no more than 10 years in a TDCJ Institutional Division facility and a fine not to exceed $10,000. (You could qualify for parole after you do 1/4 of your time).
2nd degree feloneys carry a punishment range of no less than 2 and no more than 20 years in a TDCJ Institutional Division facility and a fine not to exceed $10,000. (You could qualify for parole after you do 1/4 of your time).
The following text comes directly from the Texas Legislature website which I link at the end. Don't doubt me on any of this information. I am not debating anyone. I'm not going to get into a back and forth with Judge Judy law school graduates here and they should all remain silent here as not to confuse members with the law and the facts. This is SERIOUS business for the gentlemen. The legislature really upped the game on the hobby in Texas. I am not commenting further and nothing further needs to be said here by me. It is the law in Texas come Sept. 1, 2021.
Chapter 43, Penal Code, is amended by adding Section 43.021, and a heading is added to that section to read as follows:
Sec. 43.021. SOLICITATION OF PROSTITUTION.
43.02(b) and (c-1), Penal Code, are transferred to Section 43.021, Penal Code, as added by this
Act, re designated as Sections 43.021(a) and (b), Penal Code, respectively, and amended to read as follows:
(a) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly offers or agrees to pay a fee to another person for the purpose of engaging in sexual conduct with that person or another.
(b) An offense under Subsection (a) is a state jail felony except that the offense is:
(1) a felony of the third degree if the actor has previously been convicted of an offense under Subsection (a) or under Section 43.02(b), as that law existed before September 1, 2021 [(b)]; or
(2) a felony of the second degree if the person with whom the actor agrees to engage in sexual conduct is:
(A) younger than 18 years of age, regardless of whether the actor knows the age of the person at the time of the offense;(B) represented to the actor as being younger than 18 years of
age; or (C) believed by the actor to be younger than 18 years of age.
Section 43.021, Penal Code, as added by this Act, is amended by adding Subsection (c) to read as follows:
(c) A conviction may be used for purposes of enhancement under this section or enhancement under Subchapter D, Chapter 12, but not under both this section and that subchapter. For purposes of enhancement of penalties under this section or Subchapter D, Chapter 12, a defendant is considered to have been previously convicted of an offense under this section or under Section 43.02(b), as that law existed before September 1, 2021, if the defendant was adjudged guilty of the offense or entered a plea of guilty or nolo contendere in return for a grant of deferred adjudication, regardless of whether the sentence for the offense was ever imposed or whether the sentence was probated and the defendant was subsequently discharged from community supervision.
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup...R&Bill=HB1540#
Well that will slow things down for sure
HB1540 covers a LOT of ground, not just Chapter 43 of the Penal Code described above. It touches on websites, landlords, promotion, trafficking…there is a lot to digest, and it’s hard to predict how it’s going to impact the hobby in Texas going forward.
A few weeks ago I thought, “well, if they don’t fund this stuff, then what’s really changed?” Now I’m thinking, maybe lack of funding wasn’t the issue to begin with.
This is why I like ourhome2 gentlemen get verified Nd so do the women. Still have to be careful but i feel bad for those gentlemen that rely on shady sites like listcrawler my regular was thinking with his dickhead and went to jail of that listcrawler site in Sugarland at the Marriott even tryst is questionable. Have to research your lady as best as possible. Y’all be safe!
Sorry to rehash an old thread but coming back out of a retirement from the hobby and just seeing the new law. Old news for y’all but after 20 years in this hobby I’ve seen actual murderers and horrendous crimes get less time.
Since Sept 1st, have things gotten that much worse? I know Eccle cannot be trusted anymore, P4 has been sold……
Actually, there haven’t been any reports of arrests tied to Eccie, OH2 or P411 tied to the new law. There have been stings in most major Texas cities (interestingly, not Dallas), but they mostly have been tied to street crime. It’s not clear which sites are being used by LE for their online stings, but the few details that have been reported state they are sites known for trafficking and folks seeking non-adult activities. To me that rules out the three sites previously mentioned, but there is no telling if those reports are accurate.Pay attention to which county you’re pursuing your hobby activities. While Dallas County has been “business as usual”, the Tarrant County sheriff has decided to use this new law as an opportunity to purify his constituency.
^ Exactly like TinMan says. :thumb: It's primarily, if anything at all, sites and locales with street activity in cities where non-adult or nonconsensual forms of true human trafficking are taking place. This site, or places like it, are NOT promoting human trafficking no matter who wants to try to paint it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinMan
Even so the level of arrests for prostitution in general, across the entire spectrum, is essentially non-existent.
You can verify this yourself by looking it up on any major cities crime or incident report databases.
Assuming this is true, it will be incumbent upon the voters of Tarrant County to alleviate that situation in the 2024 election as the Sheriff will be up for re-election at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinMan
Indeed :thumb: If that's true, absolutely!Quote:
Originally Posted by DocHoliday
I always fuck for free. They pay me to leave 😏
Thanks for digging up this old chestnut, if only to remind me that my post #17 did NOT age well as it pertains to LE interest in this activity in the DFW area.