Dear Hobbyists,
How likely are you not hobby during the COVID scare?
How likely are you to continue to hobby?
Would you only see providers you've seen before?
Would you see a new provider?
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Dear Hobbyists,
How likely are you not hobby during the COVID scare?
How likely are you to continue to hobby?
Would you only see providers you've seen before?
Would you see a new provider?
Just had by Friday appointment message me on P411. She pre-books (no deposits) was coming down from Dallas. She said everyone was cancelling on her because of the virus so she wasn't making the trip. So I'm done going forward.
I'm a clean freak and a germaphobe. I keep my place exceptionally clean and disinfect things daily. I'm also not a high volume provider so I'm not seeing multiple people a day and I'm pretty much a home body. I don't travel, I don't fly and I don't really go out to large events. I have no kids(love them) but they are booger carriers and I always try to have my clients freshly shower and clean before all appointments. I have fresh towels, wash rags and soap for them to use. Just like other viruses and cold wash your hands, keep them out of your mouth and if you are feeling under the weather, have travelled somewhere or been around someone who is sick... stay home and away from people. I'm not scared seeing clients and most of us providers are on top of hygiene and cleanliness.. I would be worried about catching it from your local busy grocery store than with one on one contact here and there.
Yup, providers are notoriously clean, some more than others. I'm the person who wipes down all the faucets, sinks, door knobs and bathtub with bleach every day. Clients have commented that it smells like bleach cleaner in my incall and I guess that's coming in handy now. While everyone should be concerned and taking precautions, picking up your kid from daycare, your gym and going to HEB for you Dorito's run may make you more susceptible than seeing a provider.
Also, very generally speaking, many of us like myself do not have kids, or spouses, and work from home or a safe incall. We can also be a bit self-isolating naturally so our exposure in the world may be much lower. Personally, I'm grateful to be able to work in a relatively safe environment right now though some hardships may be coming. People scrogged their way through WW2 and the HIV pandemic, they're gonna keep on a' scroggin' even if we have to change up some things for a while.
Relatively new but from what I have seen so far it would not deter me from 1 on 1. I have a low exposure risk, work from home, only go out when necessary and when I do I hate crowds anyway so I usually go to 24 hr markets in the middle of the night. Single, I do have kids but they are teens so they understand the implications.
Now I would not set foot in a strip club right now. I feel for those who have to work them to make ends meet with this going around. Don't frequent them often but just way too many variables there. That really goes for any club right now. Just not worth the risk.
Most people who have accepted higher risks of getting STDs probably wont be bothered by this. Unless your over 60, in most cases it isn't too bad.
But the real risk here is to providers income. People have lost a LOT of money in the market the last couple weeks. Also the price of oil unsustainably low for what we are producing...not just due to coronavirus but the Russia/OPEC spat as well.
It's only matter if time before the layoffs start.
We're in a recession, you just dont realize it yet. So I'd suggest everyone who relies on disposable income to plan accordingly.
I have always stood by the stance that having fun with girls on here and on places like eccie and p411 is a lot safer than rolling the dice on a drunk uneducated hookup from a rando at the bar but that only concerns STDs.
Personally, I will not be adjusting my habits unless there is a confirmed outbreak of more than 60 people in this city or in surrounding cities (Dallas, San Antonio, Houston).
Now is not the time to buy out your grocery store's stock of toilet paper. But I think now is the time to save your money and plan financially, if you know what I mean.
Also if a lady gets it and fully recovers (no longer contagious), I would be 100% see her as this virus doesn't kill a lot of people, either.
Hmmm.
Genital warts...i prefer, "ribbed for her pleasure".
Gonnareah... I prefer, "additional lube"
Herpes... Genital grafitti
Aids... It's been a good life
A bad flu...fuck this shit!! Y'all **** is nasty!!!
I'm such a germaphobe - I won't shake hands with people. My sister won't shake hands but she'll do a fist bump. Damn, I'm glad I'm retired.
I’m a glass half full kind of guy, so instead of worrying about a 3% mortality rate, I prefer to think of a 97% survival rate. I’m am well over 60, but I have no plans to quit hobbying, at least with those women who will see me.
Like Brit said above you are far more likely to get it going out to eat, at a busy grocery store, or movie theater than with 1-1 contact here and there. Especially because the hygiene and cleanliness can all be controlled by the 2 individuals involved. You can't do that in a huge crowded place swarming with people.
The mortality rate will go down (for everyone, young & elderly both). Yes it's way higher than the "flu" even though the flu absolutely trounces on this little pesky virus in sheer numbers.
I still expect that we could see this virus go down into the .1% to.75% death rate overall once we have full accounting and testing of infected individuals. Take right now, today.
The US sits at now 2.9% down from nearly 6% just a week ago roughly. BUT let's just say you add another "measly" 5000 reported cases and another 15 deaths.
HYPOTHETICALLY, if that happened, which is very plausible, in fact I expect it to be more drastic, the outlook for the US *at that point* (if this happened) would be 6215 total cases, 51 deaths = 51 / 6215 = .8% or a .0082 death rate.
You see? The issue is that number of infected are not reported properly, unknown, passed to people while they had it and now they're fine, thought it was a "regular cold", etc.... I just really want people to realize that the death rates are totally skewed right now. They will undoubtedly go down dramatically as time goes on.
Refer to my Houston article if you like:
Coronavirus Statistics and Mortality Rates
All I know is there is no more fucking toilet paper at the grocery stores now.
I don't plan to make any changes, but I am less likely to see a travelling provider since they might see more people on a trip here.
As for the flu trouncing on COVAD-19 in sheer numbers, I think it is too early to make that determination. Consider that there are vaccines for the flu and there are antiviral medications that can be used to treat it. Antivirals are being tested on COVAD-19, but it's too early for results, and there isn't a vaccine.
I am taking time off.
Have not been active at all lately. By choice and by commitment.
I have wanted to take some classes and read a few books, and I have THE perfect excuse right now. No more excuses. I take it as THE Perfect Storm.
Cleanliness is close to godliness.
Thank you Eros and Aphrodite for sex drive and hobby family.
Be good. Wash hands often.
The more people it infects the better chance of mutation which is why a global spread is worrying the WHO and CDC.
It may have already mutated from its original form, if this is the case and it is a virus that can more readily mutate than others that would be very concerning to me but almost everything is speculation right now. They don't even have an accurate R-factor on it as of yet. It may burn itself out in a month or it could attach its RNA to existing flu strains and just become one of the various "flavors" of flu that circulate in waves.
The media panic is unwarranted. It's COVID19 because there have been 18 before. We survived the first 18 and we will survive the 19th too.
The timing is frustrating for me as I just had to take a three month break and started back working again this past Monday. It'll be interesting to see how things develop but for now I'm going to be working, washing my hands, and checking with new clients to see if they've traveled recently. Stay safe everyone!
This is from a web site Live Science
So far, the new coronavirus has led to more than 100,000 illnesses and more than 3,000 deaths worldwide. But that's nothing compared with the flu, also called influenza. In the U.S. alone, the flu has caused an estimated 34 million illnesses, 350,000 hospitalizations and 20,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
The article goes on to say the scary thing about CoronaVirus is we know so little about it and don't know if it will reach Spanish Flu proportions and kill millions or just fade away in the next few months.. I just feel governments need a little more evidence before taking drastic measures, like cancelling March Madness and delaying opening day for Baseball
Pretty sure the 19 comes from its year of origin: 2019. I didn’t investigate it though.
I think your comment MAY be fake news. I’m not trying to be political, but I am concerned for Americans who aren’t interested in taking this seriously.
A lot of Fox viewers I know are saying it’s hype or Democratic hoax (still). If you think the panic/precautions are being influenced by the media, take a look at the rest of the world: they are doing the same things, despite different politics and media paradigms.
In the animal kingdom, illness often kills the weak as a way to make the herd stronger. In the human world, the disease will take out the cavalier and ignorant as well. I suspect a disproportionate number of Fox viewers will be affected because they increased their exposure after their trusted media outlet misled them.
My advice: on THIS subject at least, if none other, visit the webpage of a non-political health organization you trust and see what they’re saying.
Yes, the 19 means they discovered it in 2019. Americans are taking this seriously. However, it's good not to panic. Panic doesn't do anyone any good. And wash your hands.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/tech-science/covid-19/
We should all be safety concious...from day one.....just stay safe/sane and well!
Will not change my activities. None of the ladies I’m considering have recently returned from Italy or any other place (Pfville?). So, I’m good.
Just remember that you can be infected and spread it without yet showing symptoms.
Also, it can remain active on some surfaces for 3 days.
So....yeah. Have fun out there and be safe.
Me? Fuck it... St Patty's at Colette tomorrow!
I’m using this time to relax, hike, do some art, read books....
I will still take appointments, but sparingly.
I am not going to hide at my house because of all the media hype over COVid19. I have done a lot of work on my bike during the Winter and I’m going to Port A tomorrow to check out the Spring Break chicks.
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I got it covered. Lol
And I always have bleach on hand.
Thank you beautiful!!
Well said, and it is an individual choice for all of us. No right or wrong, just like our sexual activities. Decide your own risk/reward if one wants to engage in P6 these days. As for me, I am not scared. I can get this virus from the guy who handed me my Coke at Taco Bell just as easy as I could getting coughed on in line buying toilet paper in HEB or visiting some girl.
I guess either way due to the travel restrictions that I do not really agree with ( of course I am biased) and Delta's announcement that they are parking 300 planes and grounding all flights to Europe except London this means time to return to making my rounds here and diverting $X I usually spend per month there to the local girls here. I'd go if I could, I am just not one to live in fear; rather one to enjoy life. When my day comes, it comes. We'll make it thru this, turn off CNN and one might see the sky isn't falling, just the market although got some relief today. IMHO CNN isn't helping world markets either panic peddling this shit here nonstop knowing full well world markets follow Wall Street. Everyone of those assholes should be fired w the exception of Wolff Blitzer; always liked the guy.
Here is what baffles me. Trump issues a travel ban and state of emergency. I get my temperature checked and screened by Delta security in Frankfurt DE. After immigration I got screened again. After security I got grilled by the German Federal Police with questions as hard as El Al Airlines asks. I had no choice but to tell them what I was doing in GER; they won't fall for lies. They had medical check my temperature even my pulse and heartbeat and blood pressure, shined lights in my eyes and all this was leaving. So what about entering the United States?
Nothing !! 'Have you been to China?' was the extent of the screening in the United States. WTF? The Germans are more concerned with me entering the United States than the United States is! The plane was full. 2 other planes landed from GER the same time as well as flights from Paris, Zurich and a few other cities. Thousands of passengers AFTER this ban was announced including EU nationals and US Citizens all just walked right in to this country being asked only about China. Not one person was screened with questions. Not one person was given a health check. This was just Atlanta so I think it is safe to say when you add in JFK LAX SFO ORD DTW IAD etc. that tens of thousands of folks entered this country as if it was any day of the year. My friend arrived today from Madrid; nothing at the Miami airport. ' Welcome back'; the guy had been in Thailand also.
The cuff doesn't match the collar, mass panic in the streets and CNN and nothing being done in the airports? Makes no sense at all.
and disgusting as well, to try to use this as a political poker chip. I just saw on CNN ' Breaking News: President Trump seen shaking hands'; give me a fucking break. Is there not something else going on with this virus worldwide to report on that it is even worth wasting 5 minutes discussing if the President shook hands or not. No government is perfect, none have the answers and this country should take a lesson from some of these other countries and cut this divisiveness behaviour out. As I toggle channels it appears a few wish to panic peddle not just with this virus but the economy. MSNBC had a chart showing the drop in the DOW since President Trump addressed the nation. I guess they missed the memo that the FTSE CAC DAX and every other index from Hong Kong/ Japan, Brazil etc. all getting butchered. Only the DOW! All because of Trump. What a bunch of biased bullshit; It's disgusting to see all this shit being reported on in a fashion ' anything to get this President out. These fuckers sure can make up crap for their viewers but seems they forget the China travel ban weeks ago. Grotesque and unfair reporting adding to the fears of the average viewer for political gain. Simply wrong.
and we have food, water and plenty of facilities for what we will face and we will not run out of toilet paper. My advise is turn off the television and simply follow your heart and your gut and as always..
to each their own.. As you wish.. Have fun either way. If one wants to not engage in P6 so be it, I respect their choice and am not out to judge anyone.
3day and Ellen are right about the 19 being the 2019 identifier. The part about the 18 before is misleading wherever you read that El Cid.
There are not 18 others. However there are 4 others very active in humans. No one is bothering to tell the general public this info though. I'm not about all the Fox vs CNN stuff and all that b/c I don't align with a political party, I vote for who has the ideals that align with my values for social justice and so on and who seems the most charismatic, honest, and capable of leading. At any rate though it does bother me that we have scared the living shit out of a huge section of the world.
About 1 in 4 colds that each of us get right now, and for many decades in the past too, are caused by 1 of 4 very well known coronaviruses. This is just a 5th one. Two of the coronaviruses I'm speaking about have been documented since the 1960s!! They literally cause 25% (on avg) of all colds in humans.
Lots of times you might think it was a rhinovirus such as a particular strain of the flu but nope lots of the time it's one of these 4 coronaviruses: 229E, NL63, OC43, HKU1
What likely happens if we can't find a way to burn this one out quickly or as the summer months come if it proves to be resilient against heat and humidity (most coronaviruses and rhinoviruses aren't which is why cold season is winter/spring) then what happens basically is that we end up with a 5th endemic community and seasonal cold which will need to be innoculated for every season much like the 3 major strains of influenza rhinovirus. We don't want that bc it means more stress on the hospitals, medical system, insurance, additional deaths, etc...
Oh and back to more of my talking points on how we will see these percentages keep going down (mortality rates)? Take a look at my older data in this thread and associated CoV threads.
For the US (per CDC daily confirmed figures):
Roughly a week or so ago: 400 cases, 21 deaths = 6% mortality
Few days ago as more testing gets in place, and more reports come in: 1215 cases, 36 deaths = 2.9% mortality
Yesterday's official CDC#: 1625 cases, 41 deaths = 2.5% mortality
Today's presumptively confirmed: 2000 cases, 41 deaths = 2% mortality
Many experts are also saying it will be under 1% just as I've postulated. It's high in the beginning b/c there are so many cases that are unreported.
I'm not saying it will absolutely hold the same curve but if it did hold the same as the last 10-20 days indicate then the US rate could easily get as low or lower than influenza.
For example if we stayed at the same trend in 10-12 more days (from what CDC data gives us above) we get this hypothetical, but very plausible scenario:
US cases = 2000 (presumptive) * 500% (cumulative 10 day growth rate in cases) = 10,000 cases, 41 (current deaths) * 1.28% (cumulative 10 day death rate increase) = 52.48 deaths. Mortality rate at that point: 52.48 / 10,000 = .005248 or .5%.
Still not as low as influenza in terms of percentages/rates but you can see that's with just 10,000 cases. It becomes miniscule if we goto 50,000 cases and that death rate stays on course too.
3day gives some damn sound advice.
Do not listen to any source, none, without checking with the CDC or WHO or DHHS first. Not mine, not the news, not a doctor, not your favorite TV show. You can like it. You can believe it. But do not believe it on blind faith alone. Even my numbers. Go check them. At least verify the CDC data is correct in terms of numbers of cases and deaths. If you want to trust me then I'm flattered but you should always verify with a trusted source that's not politically affiliated and is a credible resource for the information, like the CDC or WHO in this case.
^ I miss him. One of my dad's favorite comedians too. Thanks for that James. Was laughing my ass off. I love that whole germ segment. That's one one of his best specials ever too.
Haha, "in my neighborhood no one ever got polio! Ya know why? Hmm!? Bc our immune system was tempered in raw sewage and shit! We swam in raw sewage & shit in the Hudson River just to cool off! Polio never had a fuckin chance with us!" :lol: :giggles:
Truthfully it spread like the flu, and myself nor anyone should be in the neighborhood of spreading that. Mild or not, it likely ruin your work week.
I had a session recently. Not sure when the next will be. That's the hobby for me