What frustrates you about the business in Austin ? This goes for ladies and men..
For me-not enough late night providers-while the one's I have seen are STELLAR, it's a small amount..
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What frustrates you about the business in Austin ? This goes for ladies and men..
For me-not enough late night providers-while the one's I have seen are STELLAR, it's a small amount..
Trolls and the traffic getting to to the incall and back!
Traffic, incomplete requests like “you available” , poor hygiene and my own limited day time availability!!
Guys asking me to come visit
Then when I do plan it...silence
Lol
Time wasters, sour grapes, no way to collect no show/cancellation fee, trash talking others, Hobbyists not having to register a verifiable phone, and the demand on us ladies to bareback or not book.
The No AA provider....
Single handedly the most silliest thing I have ever heard.
Hobbyists who have no boundaries who not only make every attempt to overstep the boundaries of others but believe that they are coming welcome to comment on those who do!
Lol I hear ya!
My no as policy is..no arrogant assholes
So many women, so little money!
Those who never follow through with commitments. Those who say anything to get what they want.
Those who never appreciate the efforts put forth on their behalf then wonder why you avoid them.
providers who wont respond to reference requests but then turn around and ask for one
Not being able to play EVERY day!
The lack of a consensus on GFE regarding DFK, I have ran into some who say they are but then look like they ate a sour-patch kid when you kiss them. It is important to me so I, at least I think so, make sure my oral hygiene is up to snuff even bring my own toothbrush/paste.
Oh and research or lack thereof. Now when I first joined I needed a little hand holding. Now that I have a wee bit of time under my belt I like to give back when there is something I can answer. Sometimes I can just tell no effort was made to search. :rantswitch:
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Plus 1 with VL
Guys that over step their boundaries or take advantage of my time.
Rude obnoxious guys.
Guys who literally think we lay in bed all day with our legs spread ready to be serviced :wtf: (As if we have no life) lol
Guys who eat pussy like Steven Hawkins or guys who kiss horrible.
The half Ass text messages guys send. " Yo sugar tits" ... like wtf - can you atleast introduce yourself! :wtf:
Bad TCB. Once we've synced up and gotten through screening, I expect good communication from that point forward. I understand things happen, but the sooner you let me know the better I can plan around it.
Examples of bad communication (remember this is after screening):
- dropping off a text convo without notice. It's like, we were just texting, where the fuck did you go?? And I'm not talking about flirting or time wasting, I'm talking about necessary stuff like establishing time/place to meet. I need to know this shit so I can plan my day!!
- crickets on the day of meeting. I hardly ever do same day, so if we've already set up a day/time, I'm ready to go. Ghosting on me the day of pisses me off to no end.
Alright I don't want to start ranting here. Point is, if you need to cancel or change time or whatever, let me know sooner rather than later. I understand shit happens, and if you're up front about it, then we can just reschedule. If I just get crickets, you'll most likely never hear from me again.
most of all the things that annoy me, are allreay listed;
not responding to reference checks from. providers
the "hey", "available now" or one worded text messages from Hobbiest, as if I a supposed to know who you are right off the back.
the bareback request
the bad hygiene, bad kissers, the rude or overstepping of boundaries.
the lack of time respect for others
the lack of cancellation or deposits Hobbiest want to pay
the lack of wanting to screening properly (It would be sooooooo much easier if you did it right the FIRST time instead of us having to ask for things)
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I get a lot of what you are all saying. For me, though, I don't get out much so being unverified sucks. Especially when I was verified on eccie until theybwent dark and changed everything. I can access my profile but can't even see my own archived reviews. Now gotta start all over with OH2 and have to start all over yet this site goes down periodically, too. Additionnally, because of my occupation and the learing site hacks like the famous Ashley Madison incident, I don't like publishing my private information anywhere. Some providers want you job info and even your LinkedIn profile info. Crazy. I understand being careful but damn. Let me just give you the name of providers I have seen and then call to verify me. Both providers and hobbiest need to be safe so I get it. So if I send a "are you available", it's because I don't want to just put my info out there to a provider if we aren't even working towards setting something up. Just my two cents.
Exactly what wargy05 said, if there was another way, that would be great!
1) The dudes who are rats and will instantly try to 'tell on' guys for what they say in men's only areas. Especially when that girl wants to come in hot and threaten me with some kind of silly banning when my private comments are just "pics not accurate/misleading." If you don't want to respect men's only areas or tell the rats to fuck off that's fine. No one is a paragon of virtue here. But if you want to threaten me you should know that's only going to make me go from "meh, pics aren't accurate" to "Guys, don't see this person under any circumstances."
I can understand the impulse for the girls who rely on deception. Those of you who don't rely on deception should really not close ranks with them. The freezing effect on talk in the men's lounge from this kind of thing makes guys less likely to talk. That means they're more likely to see a girl and get intensely disappointed. They'll be less likely to see a girl outside of his regulars at all so the honest ones are losing money for this.
2) Some providers are incredibly angry and seem to out and out despise their clients. I'm not just talking about the randos who send the hobby equivalent of "you up?" I'm talking the actual clients. I've seen threads where girls will talk about how they get pissed about their regulars texting them and looking for an appointment. I've also noticed that the ones more likely to engage in this kind of behavior are also the ones I'm least likely to want to see in the first place because of said attitude or some other feature. Perhaps there's a correlation.
Maybe providing leads you to this kind of attitude. But I'm not in the habit of giving money to people who hate me.
3) Unreasonable screening requirements. Like the other guy said. There's no way I'm letting you know where I work, my address, my real name, etc. I don't even park where you tell me to because one of you tried to have a thug take a pic of license plate. That's what references on here are for and if that's not good enough for you what's the point of the site? Now normally my response to this is that if a girl has screening requirements that high I just don't try to see her but some girls kind of sneak up on you. And boy are they angry when you refuse. A simple "Sorry I'm not doing that" should not provoke the torrent of utter rage I've gotten from some of you. See the point up above about providers who secretly hate all their clients.
Except for the first point about the sad rats who are seeking a pat on the head... the point is that this is a hobby. I'm sure for some guys on here this is the only way they'll get a desirable (for a given value thereof) to touch them but for some of us this is what we do between relationships. Over the last few years the hobby has become almost more of a hassle than trying to find a vanilla date... so why bother? I hear you girls constantly going on about what us men need to do... ever think about what you could change?
Some of you are going to say I'm an asshole for saying this. But if you ask the girls who know me I'm perfectly kind, polite, etc etc... and that I don't put up with nonsense.
Frustrating:
1. "Are you available?" Drives me up the wall. I will not even respond to it. If you hiding who you are, unable to copy and paste simple introduction of yourself, don't waste my time.
2. "Tell me about yourself." Please read my profile and posts.
3. "I don't have enough for your donation, I have never seen you, can I have discount?!" Why do I have to take care of your financial instability? Find someone that you can afford. Or plan accordingly.
4. Hobbyists, who consider themselves "Premium Class" and booking one hour, but overstaying much longer, everytime, without invitation, regret or compensation.
5. Gents, who sending dickpicks, instead of their personal picture. I would like to see your Member, maybe, but only after I have already seen you in private. Not before. You are not dickface, nor you are dickhead.
6. Gents, who are sending sms with extended description of their past sessions with other providers.
7. Gents, who responding to GFE ad, but demanding BDSM session while visiting.
For me, it is NCNS or simply ghosting after an appointment is confirmed, particularly if I have a to cross a river to see you. Cancel on me if you must, but don't just go silent. And let's not make up the "I sent you a text!" (you may have, but I also have email if you didn't get a response). And if you've known for three days you can't see me on the day and time requested and booked, I expect two to three days notice of this fact. Like most guys, if I can afford this hobby, it means I work for a living...I get windows to play since I work hard...and if you screw that up for me, I don't get to play, and that's pretty darned frustrating. If you are tentative on the booking, just tell me, and we'll work out a mutually agreeable confirmation process that takes it into account, or we can reschedule and I can book someone else. It's really not all that hard.
And guys who NCNS, you suck too. It makes girls only tentatively book with us reliable/communicating types, costs the girls money if they had to pay for an incall which drives up the costs for me, and makes us all look bad. Girls, don't NCNS. Guys, don't NCNS. Communicate, communicate, communicate. /Rant
Man after reading through these.....does anyone in this hobby have fun? :hammer:
Despondent
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Ki2 you are an asshole, but not for those opinions ;-*
Personally what grinds my gears is entitlement and wasteful words. You're not entitled to a single thing in this world, the hobby is within that world darlin! Why waste words on someone with no intention or intrest in following through with them? Oh, and bullying really gets my knickers in a bunch, I do not like it at all. My biggest frustration lies within the minds, hearts and bodies of people in this community, who feel like they only exist, in this community. You are more than these words, opinions, pictures, you are a loveable, beautiful soul and I feel as though that part of you, deserves attention too.
Xo
No information of Incall and /or Outcall in the profile
I would agree with that. I think this tread has brought to the service some of what I have been feeling lately, I need to remember that there is indeed a lot of enjoyment in this hobby. I have met some stellar people that is for sure.
I think negativity gets to me at times.
CubanAva: damn girl!
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Omg... # 4!!! WTF man!! This drives me to almost homicidal intentions!! and I'm sure most of you ladies out there have no problem speaking up and being aggressive with that but me I just can't find the nerve or the balls until after they're out the door and then I throw things and curse at the top of my lungs and shout at the gods above for not giving me enough ball sack to say... "hey mofo" you wanted an hour but yet here it is two and a half !! you don't even recognize or offer the difference?! you're just going to assume that I'm the nice guy which I am!! and let me tell you it's getting old!!!!
Great thread! Thanks OP.
I hope I don’t add to any companion frustrations. If I do, please know that you may say so. I don’t do it on purpose. I want our encounters to be mutually satisfying.
As for my frustrations...
NCNS
Delays, unless we’ve planned a Friday date
Insufficient or misleading profiles
Traffic...which is why I won’t play north
Limited time, limited funds
The fun outweighs the frustrations. Lol
I think we all have similar frustrations, and it all stems from a lack of communication. The more we can be transparent about scheduling, etc. the better.
Providers have to protect themselves, as do hobbyists. By nature, we have to “hold back” in the hobby quite a bit to be safe, but being up front and honest about what you expect out of the encounter should be of paramount importance to providers and hobbyists alike. Constantly staying in sync with each other, even after becoming regular partners is a VERY good idea. We shouldn’t assume that the “bubble/fantasy” we meet each other in BCD will remain unchanged. We are human beings, after all...wants and needs will change over time.
Even with our solid regs/ ATF’s, we cannot assume that everything is “cool” and that scheduling, activities, donations, etc will always be the same.
I don’t constantly text or call my ATF’s - but I do like to visit with them while we’re together to see how things are going, and I’m not shy about letting them know what I really like, and also what turns me off.
Most of the women I see are very receptive to this, and it works great to keep us fresh and in sync, but I’ve had a few that are very resistant to changing their style/playlist BCD and I eventually stop seeing them.
So - communicate people. I think a TON of our frustrations as hobbyists and providers could be avoided if we could just do a better job of this.
You know what would be nice? Just once, just once! I would like to have a provider send a thank you after leaving a decent tip. Just once! Is common courtesy that hard these days? It takes very little effort for someone to just say thank you. Rant over...carry on.
I always send a thanks after playtimes
Southern hospitality...
I send out thank you for a wonderful time to the ladies I see on most occasions
Instead of homocidal intentions, think of that extra time as cultivating a relationship with a potential returning client.
If you don’t want to see the guy again, you can tactfully tell him when his time is up.
But if you like the guy and want him to repeat, spend a little extra time to get to know each other. If the guy is like me, he will want all the more to come back. Granted, two and a half hours is excessive for a one hour date, but an extra 15-30 minutes should be beneficial.
If he’s a return customer that starts to overstay his welcome, he should be receptive to a gentle nudge that time is up.
I think most guys want to please their companions. Those that don’t...those are the guys you don’t want to see again.
I'm like this. I so enjoy cultivating friendships and I so enjoy pleasing a man. It's in my nature to do so. Once I like someone I will let my true personality shine - which ,my regulars enjoy. I'm kinda over the top for some people so finding a right match is something I cherish. What frustrates me is folks who start drama. I hate drama. There's no need for it and yet some people actually thrive on it. I do not get that and I don't put up with it either.
Lovinglifeinaustin and Austin Ellen, let's have a coffee one day. I love your comments, always! So wise. :nicethread: