Good post desta. First one I've seen that brings out some interesting points so bravo on that!Originally Posted by _desta
Mmm, idk. Even in the study with the largest sample size of 15,000+ (Veale et al) the bulk of those subjects came from Iran, Egypt, Italy, and Turkey, none which would be defined as predominatly black (yes, I do believe race could play a part), and the USA sample size made up only about 200 ppl. Promodu et al was conducted in Indian, another shows that out of about 3,000 surveyed 74.99% responded that their ethnicity was white, and Herbenick et al was based in the U.S., but only had a sample size of about 1600 compared to a 325mill+ population. So the curve may be not be as accurate...I don't know about the 10"+ area, but I'd guess there are probably quite a bit more ppl that are around the 7"-10" BPEL.
None of that is to knock "smaller" sizes, but just to say that I don't think sitting in the 7"-10" area is really that big of an abnormality, and as Rowan said, vaginas stretch as they warm up, so yeah take the time to make sure their partner is well ready, listen to how they respond, and don't just shove it in there and start jackhammering the shit out of someone (this is RL not fantasy porn world) and things are usually just fine regardless of size. So assuming someone with a larger than average penis is going to tear someone apart seems just as ridiculous as assuming someone with a smaller than average penis can't satisfy a someone...or maybe these are just repressed emotions because my partners keep opting for just a bj lol
I agree that certain sample sizes are too small. That's just an inevitably of any scientific study or endeavor. You can't test everything or everyone and you can only come up with figures that give you an idea of where or not you a statistically significant difference. The curve might change some if you threw the entirety of the adult male half of the 325mil US population in one of those studies (and used medically reported data as opposed to self reported). I mention that become some studies rely on self reported data (especially the large studies). You simply can't medically test as many men one at a time unless you send out a notice to a random group and ask "them" to report back their results (this is "self reported" data). And we know that any studies with self reported data are skewed and have larger numbers (i.e. the men "cheat" even if just a little, and in some cases a lot).
I would also agree there are definitely a great number within our 325million US population of the adult males that are beyond 7" and up to 8" (length wise - BPEL). Of course they are out there but it's still very few in comparison to the general populace. Very few. If we go up to 9"-10" BPEL length range it's getting ridiculously rare. Now, in world of 7billion (*billion*) people are that going to be a good number such that you can 9" and up online clubs and forums and things like that even when those in the >99.99% or >99.999%? Sure. Lots across the entire world of 7BN people. But it's a small small fraction.
Look at porn for example. They purposely seek out men with the biggest penises and they can't even find any. How many exist today in all of porn that are legitimately 10"+ (bone pressed erect length) or beyond 6.5" EG (circumference around penis)? Again for those who don't know BPEL mean you stick a ruler against the top of your penis (not the side, not under, right on top) and you push into your pubic bone (reasonably, don't try to stick the ruler into your backbone LOL) and measure the length at the very tip of the penis where the rule is resting. BPEL helps to measure without worrying about the "fat pad" which all men have to varying degrees (maybe 1cm for some, maybe an entire 2inches for others). The more weight a man has the thicker larger the fat pad with be and will not show their true size. If they lose weight they will magically get bigger.
There are so few people who can legitimately do that and get a 10"+ number. So so so few in relation to the average man. It's so few that in all of porn today there are virtually none that can do it with exception to Mandingo, Julio Gomez, and possibly Lex Steele. It was said that Ron Jeremy had 10" but most experts believe it to be more around 8.5-9. John Holmes has a very large one, probably a legit 10-10.5" (not the ridiculous numbers of 12" or 14" people read.....not even close). Julio Gomez and Mandingo are some of the longest and thickest ever and they are the only two in the legit 10" range and about 6.5" to 7" girth/circumference.
The average length among all men is 5.5 inches BPEL. Some studies say 5inches even! Others say 5.75 or 5.85. The average of these comes to right in the 5.5 inch range.
To get your EG you just use a tape measure (like a clothing tape measure) and wrap it around the thickest part of your penis that is the EG measurement.
The average erect girth is 4.5 inches circumference.
The only known people to legit have beyond 6.5" EG are Mandingo (estimated 7" EG), Shane Diesel (~7.25-7.5" EG - but *only* 8" BPEL lol), Shorty Mac (~7.7" EG and again *only* 7.5-8" length haha). Even a 5.5" EG is very large and very uncommon to the point that condoms will be painful and take away lots of sensation.
The point is people really don't understand, men and women, I don't care if they are providers or not, people just don't know what a legit measured 9-10"+ length looks like, nor a legit 6.5"+ EG. It's insane. Those are rare.
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The thing you mention about how the vagina stretches is very true. I talked about it in prior posts. The deal is though it will not stretch *that* much. It's only 2.5in to 3in deep to start and in arousal goes up another 2-3.5in+ possibly but that's about it. If you are 9" long for example you are not going to fit all the way in. I don't care what you do. Maybe if she a giant. LOL. A 7ft woman haha. Seriously. There is no way. The torso is too short and the cervix is nowhere near 9" away from the vaginal opening. Not even remotely close, more like 6in range, give or take an inch, and you change up positions to allow deeper entry because of how the uterus/cervix will shift. Even with arousal and movement of the uterus (tilting uterus, etc) and the vaginal wall stretching you simply can't push 9 full inches, not even 8 full inches (maybe 8 - maybe in some cases and certain positions) inside without smashing the fuck out of her cervix.
Similarly I also wouldn't want to be beyond 7" EG (erect girth). I'm at 6" EG (overall) and 6.2" at the widest spot and it's fine but condoms are horrible; otherwise it works out great for most women though some do complain. And at say 6.75in+ EG you are venturing into actual pain territory 6.5" EG (overall girth) is about the max reasonable girth a woman can handle without becoming a chore and beginning to enter what would be at least similar parts to labor LOL. Yea not quite *that* painful but at 7" EG its starting to get damn close.
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