I asked a mod. He confirmed that they have been making providers send a pic of them with their I d and a pic of just the I d by itself for awhile now and that no access would be allowed until its done. He confirmed about the 25 thing and that they just didn't feel they needed to ask older providers until now I guess. As a man I just needed to send in an email. P411 was a little strict but not that much. You gals have the short end of the stick when it comes to this issue. Theres no doubt about it