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    Quote Originally Posted by maxonprice View Post
    . but I was under the impression that you could pay and have the moderators here grant you some sort of verified status. I could be wrong of course, but since this thread appears like it's getting seen, I will post this. I DO wish there was a more streamlined way to become "verified"....
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    Personally, I find P411 to be a very reliable, and preferable way to verify a new gentleman.

    I am not currently a member; but there is a function on the site for members that allowed a limited look at the gentleman's profile for a provider that is not a member. Considering the hoops necessary to jump through to get membership, and the professional way that the site and its owners appear to run the site (for example, they do not allow this limited look at a member's profile to a non-member for more than a set period of time, after which the link provided is useless) - it gives me an impression of safety that some other methods of screening don't. Plus, it doesn't require that I message other providers and potentially bother them whilst they're busy doing something else.

    Additionally - the limited view of a profile that a member can send to a non member includes a page regarding the preferences of the member: things like if they require the use of your shower, do they prefer heels be worn during the appointment, would they prefer to see a non-smoker - that sort of thing. I find that an absolutely wonderful function, and very helpful with being able to tailor the experience of the appointment for whomever it is I am entertaining.

    These are just my thoughts regarding the site, and of course there are other screening methods I can/will use that don't require the use of the P411. But I thought I'd give my two cents as a provider on what I find to be the pros of it.
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    I find it useful because i never got verified here, despite responding.

    I think its interesting for those who say they don't hobby enough to make it useful. I have the opposite experience. I don't hobby that often, so getting vouched from someone from 6 months ago is nearly impossible.

    $699 for lifetime, with OKs saved from 5 years ago is useful for me.

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    P411 has been very good to me I like that they verify the hobbiest for me its a great system! I am ok are you ok is all we really need to know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaomiJoy View Post
    Personally, I find P411 to be a very reliable, and preferable way to verify a new gentleman.

    I am not currently a member; but there is a function on the site for members that allowed a limited look at the gentleman's profile for a provider that is not a member. Considering the hoops necessary to jump through to get membership, and the professional way that the site and its owners appear to run the site (for example, they do not allow this limited look at a member's profile to a non-member for more than a set period of time, after which the link provided is useless) - it gives me an impression of safety that some other methods of screening don't. Plus, it doesn't require that I message other providers and potentially bother them whilst they're busy doing something else.

    Additionally - the limited view of a profile that a member can send to a non member includes a page regarding the preferences of the member: things like if they require the use of your shower, do they prefer heels be worn during the appointment, would they prefer to see a non-smoker - that sort of thing. I find that an absolutely wonderful function, and very helpful with being able to tailor the experience of the appointment for whomever it is I am entertaining.

    These are just my thoughts regarding the site, and of course there are other screening methods I can/will use that don't require the use of the P411. But I thought I'd give my two cents as a provider on what I find to be the pros of it.
    I love p411 it's just the annual fee of $100+. With 100 plus revenue I have not renew not willing to pay that annual fee...provider got me my first initial membership years ago. I love p411 like I said I have many OKs from providers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttmax View Post
    I love p411 it's just the annual fee of $100+. With 100 plus revenue I have not renew not willing to pay that annual fee...provider got me my first initial membership years ago. I love p411 like I said I have many OKs from providers.
    ^^^emphasis added^^^

    I drive a car; I buy insurance.

    I hobby, I p411 (among other research tools).

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    -- no trips to the "wild side"
    -- as much security and safety as I can tolerate

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    In these trying times, your patience and support are greatly appreciated. Stay safe out there!

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    Ladies, please note:
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    ck1942 doesn't vouch for hobbyists.
    -- "Verified hobbyist" is only a title; he should always be screened/vouched
    -- Very aware hobbyists always start a contact process by sending a PM before sending any texts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ck1942 View Post
    ^^^emphasis added^^^

    I drive a car; I buy insurance.

    I hobby, I p411 (among other research tools).

    Hobbying essentials:

    -- hobby phone
    -- careful research
    -- valid endorsements
    -- no trips to the "wild side"
    -- as much security and safety as I can tolerate

    duh!
    +1, I take so many things for granted, but a plus on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ck1942 View Post
    Your ?impression? is flat out false!
    I love how you answer here but not verifications.

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    P411 is worthless in San Antonio. There are no providers on P411 from San Antonio that I want to see. (Do your research here, ECCIE, and TER and come to your own conclusions.)

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    ^^^ SA has many visiting providers... P411 can get you to the front of the line since the girl doesn't need to check any further references.... references that are very slow to answer... if they answer at all...

    A'Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anandaman View Post
    ^^^ SA has many visiting providers... P411 can get you to the front of the line since the girl doesn't need to check any further references.... references that are very slow to answer... if they answer at all...

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    Here's a serious question...

    Do the provider's need to pay $
    to have an account and access
    the information on P411?

    Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWadd View Post

    Here's a serious question...

    Do the provider's need to pay $
    to have an account and access
    the information on P411?


    Just curious.

    For the basic account No..

    But, to post ads in your own city, be in the top 10, priority ads, touring ads and to BLOCK A CLIENT we pay differ fee for all of those things..

    The fees vary on the city but for a generic ad in SA it is around $30 a month..

    Now, depending where you are touring.. Let's say you are touring 3 weeks.. And, going to some generic cities.. It's not hard to spend 250-400 on ads for those tour dates..

    And that is for cities like Houston, Dallas, Kansas city, KS, Kansas city, MO, Iowa, Nebraska, St. Louis and Arkansas..

    If you hit cities like Chicago, NYC California, Vegas etc.. You are probably looking at more..

    And we also pay for TER, Tryst ads, eros, skipthegames is huge in the Midwest because they do not use oh2.. TOB is really expensive but definitely necessary if you go to Colorado on a regular basis..

    R2k is expensive but you can buy temporary memberships when you visit Chicago and they are sort of like p411, or that is what I have been told..

    When you are touring.. Things move fast and sites like p411, TER whitelisting, R2k are REALLY great at speeding up the verification process and it's worth it for us to pay the advertising fees..

    So, yeah... We pay WAYY more on p411 and most other sites then the me ever will..

    The only cost that annoys me on p411 is the one to block clients that have done something to us... I think it costs us $5 to block.. I haven't used that feature but there was a discussion about it awhile back when the change occurred..

    But, it is their site, and p411 has always bsn good to me so, I'm not complaining, just sort of stating it as an FYI, since, you asked about cost..

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    Providers earn points (equivalent of $'s) when they give ok's to guys. I know girls that travel to other cities and these points are sufficient to "pay" for their ads...

    Paying for P411 "ads" I believe just get's you like "Top Listing". Correct me if I'm wrong. I think that prescribing to a ladies "Available Now" ads is more worthwhile. I don't think the ladies have to pay anything for that feature?

    Personally, I don't look at Top Listings. I have saved searches for each city. For example, in SA, I have saved searches for "Hispanic", "Asian" and "Mixed". I quickly pull those up and see what ladies look interesting based on my preferences. You can have saved searches for just about anything (Kiss, Passport ready, no Incall, etc etc). I briefly notice a "Top Listing" since they come up when you login for your home city. I really don't even notice those.... although, sometimes I see someone special like Slave Guinevere and I start to salivate.... that's because she's so well-known and well thought of (I saw her once and will never forget it;I want to see her again... I'm in ATX.. hint, hint.. :-) )... But, I don't remember the last time I looked at a "Top Listing" for someone I don't recognize.

    It would be interesting to poll the guys and see how they enter and look at babes on P411... Does "Top Listing" catch your eye and make it worthwhile for the ladies to pay for it?

    Thanks
    A'Man
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