gimme_that, I'm not totally sure what you mean. I was only saying based on the quick skim along wirh what women were saying it appeared you were suggesting "proper ways" of them conducting business.
I think when you said "contrived" you meant to say "deduced", "ascertained", or "imagined"? Contrived typically means flimsy or weak in substance (it's also not really used as a verb; rather it's an adjective).
In any case I wasn't trying to pick on you. I was giving you some honest advice. As for the question about what I believe is acceptable screening information to request? I'm not sure it's terribly relevant to what we were discussing.
It's up to each person to decide for themselves. The hobbyist decides what he is comfortable with and a provider decides what she is comfortable with in order to feel safe. The golden rule there is both people should show empathy for the other person, but the bottom line as a hobbyist is still that if you are not comfortable giving her what she wants then you should move on, and do it politely. You should both be polite to each other in all circumstances.
I will say this. I do think people, hobbyists and providers, generally speaking, are a tad more worried than they should be about sharing various screening info, pics, other data, addresses, etc... The only somewhat seriously valid concern for guys is with a marriage or very involved relationship or family situation to worry about. Otherwise there isn't much either party can do with the data. The guy will be blackballed if he does. The girl is at even more risk b/c if she does something deleterious then her livelihood and business are likely ruined. Who is going to do that? Even if they got super pissed? It's just not going to happen 99.9% of the time. The main worry for guys would be if they are married or romantically involved and hence they are "cheating". The girl could go-to the horses mouth so to speak but that would ruin her once it becomes known too.
There is built-in protection from both sides b/c if you are shot in the back the shot party essentially gets an automatic free shot to the back of the party who fired first. Who would engage in western style standoffs if it always meant both parties die (by definition)?
-MG
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Cant get more direct than what I asked you. But I’ll try.
I asked you plainly what screening practice are you not open to if a lady ask? That a very simple question you dodged because you don’t want to give an honest opinion cause you feel threatened by the response or opinion of other ladies more than likely. I don’t.
For me anything work related, requesting a face picture, and requesting a dick pic is too much info and I deem it very unnecessary for me to do screening wise. But that’s my basis of stuff I would not include under any circumstances. What is your stance? Your whole response didn’t include it.
That means you didn’t read my post effectively to make an informed response to it cause you selectively pulled from it what you wanted or what you saw folks saying. Instead of getting or acknowledging the total point of what I was making.
Which lead you to assume..................
Nope and nope. Those three ladies jumped to conclusions based on my opinion of what I would not do. Since you didn’t read what I said in full being admittedly uninformed in your own words, you chose to be in instant unison on the side of the ladies who have responded thus far; but never gave your personal take on your own comfortable non preferred screening methods used upon you and the methods you are not open too. And its in topic because the original poster found himself in a place where he wanted to verify again. And was seeking ways how.
That way you can’t claim and/or deflect from answering when you say stuff like this........
It’s incredibly relevant to know actually. Mostly because you chose not to have a stance on it. And no opinion. Shoot even the ladies who responded to the thread so far didn’t say specifically what they feel all clients should surrender to them info wise when screening. Only their gripes on what I said. Which is easy to do if they aren’t specific and don’t have a basis to the contrary. Some guys are into a bdsm and being dominated so they will do as instructed in all cases. You left no stance so I assumed the same.
Example:
It’s an “all lives matter” situation for you versus “black lives matter” debate. You don’t get the basic premise of the message and feel that being neutral is the topic of conversation. When being neutral wasn’t the main issue at all. It’s the preference and method of the message given. Best example I can give you. If you don’t get that, you won’t get this. I mean your giving your view, but not watching the news and actions of a few for clarification on the phrase and what it means.
Nope I used contrived very appropriately in this case. And it’s very much commonly used as a verb. Look in a thesaurus or dictionary before you make a claim like that. See another uniformed response. All cause you skimmed and scanned with cliff notes in hand.
Contrive in verb form means = “to make, improvise or devise. see invent or create”
Like those ladies did in this thread claiming I don’t have p411, claiming I’m poor, and other stupid irrelevant stuff they created (contrived) and patted each other on the back for when they don’t know me and haven’t met me. All cause I have a stance on a topic in question. They have done it in multiple threads I have posted in on this site and others. These same three. They did it with others who don’t agree with them, and they are now trying with me.
So do you think they were polite in this thread? Read their responses. If so your delusional just like them. Or working in tandem. Who knows.
Spoken from a guy with no stance or opinion on what he would reveal to a lady he was seeking companionship with. But it seems your overall mood is just do what she says. You have nothing to lose.
And contrary to your belief there is a lot ladies can do with data collected. The ramifications on her side will not cripple her business. Because guys will still see them long as she hasn’t picked the wrong dude to mess with. There’s a lady and agency banned from another local board here right now for just a year because they chose to “out” someone’s personal info. The penalty was just a year not to post. They still advertise though in other places and guys are willingly sending info. More power to them.
it’s already happening. The business of those lady’s isn’t ruined. Easily fixable for ladies without much residual damage when they expose or out info. They change there name, take on a new persona, etc. guys will choose from there. Cycle restarts. Guys do not have the same luxury.
Its happening presently, before, and in the future.
I find it quite peculiar you stress the worry of why guys wouldn’t want to give certain real world info but still have no stance your self. But you sound like you would give all your personal info to ladies with extreme confidence and no question. If you feel differently your not conveying different.
Getting outed begats: (possibly)
1. relationships breaking up and maybe crimes of passion attached.
2. peoples livelihood and job in jeopardy due to morality clauses.
3. divorce which is costly
4. custody of kids or denial.
And yes guys can still book ladies. I mean the main catalyst is money. Money doesn’t buy love, but it definitely helps to get your foot in the door and open opportunity. And definitely is an asset to take when love is exposed as different.
Yep the protection is based on the info you give. And your comfort level attached to what you give for takes. Again I tell the original poster and others to choose wisely. Don’t hara kiri yourself.
Last edited by gimme_that; 06-16-2020 at 12:28 AM.
...just a thank you for the self alert. 😘
he has angry black man syndrome, so no surprise that he tookOriginally Posted by mathguy
your honest advice as a personal attack
you’re not the only one who’s attacked his ego
I wouldn’t answer your crusty question either if I
felt like you were asking it out of spite
I “contrived” nothing.
You’re the one who likes to talk stupid irrelevant stuff
of course
You hired a professional to come entertain your broke ass.
So, if handing over your last few pennies is an issue,
then DON’T HIRE PROVIDERS
Well, cops don’t need to ‘secure intent’ to shoot and
kill citizens and get away with it, so...
poor excuse to not compensate a provider in the beginning
you already know what’s up and why she’s with you,
so just pay & get it out the way... jeez
this is why mathguy didn’t answer your question...
We can do a lot with data, but you aren’t as important as you think are.
You should be more worried about Facebook, Google, your smartphone, etc.
collecting your data — and then making bank off of it unbeknownst to you.
MyLife, WhitePages, and other public databases got your whole life story on
display for $24.99, and you sitting here worried about a damn provider
messing with your useless data??
for real?!
I find it peculiar that you’re this upset over
someone not answering your question
Let it go.
as long as you know
!
Exactly! That's a really great point that Phoenixx articulated here and was essentially my point too.
Yes, stuff can happen in some rarer cases or with people who do seriously foolish things but for the most part you should be a lot more worried about the fact that anyone who truly wants data on you can get it for less than a couple movie tickets
I'm not saying you shouldn't be careful with your personal data. We all should. However this idea that providers are going to run and blackmail you just b/c they have your "real" phone number, or your home address, or a basic pic of you (to prove who you are AND possibly to make sure they can reasonably be passionate with you). Do you know how easy it would be to get your data and compromise you?
Also, here's another major example of why some women might ask for a pic (just as an example, b/c I was understanding that to be a hard NO for you). Some women don't want to put NO AA or NO <insert whatever> (e.g. NO Dr Phil hair or face, NO pimples, NO creeper 'stache, NO skinheads prison thugs, etc...) b/c it sounds racist or very prejudicial and could seriously limit their clientele. We ALL have preferences and this is an intimate act after all. You are living in a dream world if you think all guys get the same experience.
You could have all the money in the world and pay $5K for 1hr but no matter what if you are not attractive to her you wont have the same experience as an attractive guy (to her). Even one who talks her down to half her rate!! That's just life. It's the same for you too. You couldn't have amazing sex with *any* woman. And that's what you are asking of these girls.
It doesn't mean they are racist or bigoted but it does limit their clientele pool unnecessarily. That's also why I completely understand it, even if it's technically a personal policy of theirs. It's the smart move. Maybe they don't like Caucasian, Indian, Asian, Hispanic, Dr Phil, Steven Tyler, a guy with pock marks all over his face, 'staches, beards, ad infinitum. That doesn't mean they're bigots. It means they don't want to FUCK certain people. It means they can't give GFE quality sex to someone they are not attracted to in the slightest bit. I mean come on let's get real. It's sex. Any guy who thinks paying somehow changes that dynamic is so far off the mark it's insane.
The majority of girls who might ask for what you consider unacceptable data most likely do it to get a basic idea of what you look like and/or to verify their safety (both legally & physically). References help b/c they can ask another girl various things about you. They can also check your board activity and see how you act (obviously they use another account so don't go trying to look at your recently viewed list... hehe).
Sort of like the link Phxx posted to the Eccie thread, similarly I'd say to you, chill dude. Just be respectful and nice and realize they are women & they might be scared/nervous until they know you. Women are not even close to as physically strong as men & they are about to go into a vulnerable situation. You think you are worried? Smh You have little reason to worry so extensively about your data or your likeness being used to sabotage your life. It's out there anyway for anyone who wants to fuck with you buddy. And if that's really the case due to a marriage or committed SO that you are cheating on then maybe you need to consider another hobby. Seriously. You will get way further with sugar than you will with salt
-MG
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^ Ty sweetheart. I really appreciate the public comment and I'm also glad you liked it.
-MG
This is pure entertainment lol. Thanks all! "Bows gracefully."
Poor guy who started the thread is probably like, damn, what happened hahaha. Sorry man, we are actually pretty chill until some bottom feeders or shills decide to show their cards, which usually don't even amount to three of a kind.
Hope we at least answered your question lol.
Awaiting account deactivation, no longer available. Be safe, all the best!
Lol. Thanks all this has been an epic read. I appreciate yalls help on everything.