FaceTime and Employment Verifications

[AlexandraSand]

I personally will not send anyone any face picks. Nor will I FaceTime, or point to my LinkedIn, or show pay stubs.
I could take a picture of my ID, block-out all vital information and only show my face and partial name. As a provider, I can use this information, to find this person, in case if he hurt me. For my security only.

Walk a mile in other's shoes, to understand their behavior. What would you ask if you are a provider, who is about to invite a stranger in your house? What will scare you? What will make you relaxed and eager?!

[KellyDarlin]

Personally, I just run the phone number through an app that shows any reports on the guy. Sometimes it works sometimes it does it but bottom line is as many horror stories as I hear about the scheming, and robbing of Hobbyists it's the hobbyist who has more to lose. If my gut says no then it's no period. I also meet the client outside my building when they arrive so if alarms go off, I haven't given up room number and it's in the middle of a busy parking lot so chance of any harm being done is slim to none. and for the record if law enforcement is after you and wants to bust you, you will not be able to stop them. they can pass any screening question you throw at them. They are the police they have the methods. And it's a class B misdemeanor you're not going to go to prison for life unlessyou have things at your in call or on your person that are more serious than a class B misdemeanor. Another good thing to do is ask the gentleman to call and hear his voice. Alot of times you can tell a lot about someone by the intonations in their voice it always puts me at ease. as providers I know that we are busy and we don't have time for a long drawn out chat conversations or phone calls but sometimes if we take the time to listen to the person we're going to see for just a little bit we can kind of feel them out and see where they're coming from if there's anger in their words or in their voice if there's frustration etc etc it works for me a lot.

[JohnCherry]

Providers:

What are your opinions about meeting with a prospective hobbyist for a meal? Say he/she buys you lunch at a restaurant, and that time is used to converse and get a read on each other?

Would you feel safe in that situation? Would this kind of interaction answer your concerns, at least enough for screening purposes?

[KellyDarlin]

Providers:

What are your opinions about meeting with a prospective hobbyist for a meal? Say he/she buys you lunch at a restaurant, and that time is used to converse and get a read on each other?

Would you feel safe in that situation? Would this kind of interaction answer your concerns, at least enough for screening purposes?

I like the idea but there will be providers who would want to be paid for the time spent getting to know one another. Ffireman who was the very first person from Oh2 that I met ( he introduced me to this site and vouched for me) offered that very idea to me and for me that sealed the deal. He was willing to do whatever to make me comfortable. I would never ask for job information or and if I have ever asked for pic of someone's ID it was a last ditch effort to verify but always ask that all pertinent info be blacked out including last name ( if outcall, I ask for a piece of mail in person's name with any pertinent info blacked out) but this is rarely asked for because I believe compromise is best. I am still very aware of my surroundings and use every app and database I can to verify someone. But your intuition is always your best tool. If any provider gets a gnawing feeling that they shouldn't see someone, then she shouldn't see them. Hobbyists will have to accept and respect their decision if they don't want to screen the way that provider wants. I just feel sometimes it's a bit overkill and takes all the fun out of it all. So I try to make it seem effortless for the hobbyist because it just doesn't need to be so damn dramatic as all that.

[JohnCherry]

I like the idea but there will be providers who would want to be paid for the time spent getting to know one another. Ffireman who was the very first person from Oh2 that I met ( he introduced me to this site and vouched for me) offered that very idea to me and for me that sealed the deal. He was willing to do whatever to make me comfortable. I would never ask for job information or and if I have ever asked for pic of someone's ID it was a last ditch effort to verify but always ask that all pertinent info be blacked out including last name ( if outcall, I ask for a piece of mail in person's name with any pertinent info blacked out) but this is rarely asked for because I believe compromise is best. I am still very aware of my surroundings and use every app and database I can to verify someone. But your intuition is always your best tool. If any provider gets a gnawing feeling that they shouldn't see someone, then she shouldn't see them. Hobbyists will have to accept and respect their decision if they don't want to screen the way that provider wants. I just feel sometimes it's a bit overkill and takes all the fun out of it all. So I try to make it seem effortless for the hobbyist because it just doesn't need to be so damn dramatic as all that.

I appreciate your attitude. My thinking is that perhaps some providers will see a paid meal as some compensation, for doing something they otherwise would have done anyway (we all gotta eat!). But I understand some providers might not see it that way. And like you say, if the provider declines to screen using that method, their decision has to be respected.

Do you think any provider would be offended if a hobbyist asked to screen this way? I realize that it is impossible to say what everyone would think and do in any given situation, but if you have a general sense one way or the other, I'd be interested to hear.

[KellyDarlin]

Offended probably not. They may feel put upon, and that's when the payment issue comes in. I have several clients who take me to lunch and I appreciate the gesture. I don't consider that BCD, it's a lovely way to get to know one another which makes BCD so much more gratifying and satisfying. As a screening tool I would love it or I've even had meet n greets with a few tentative clients where we just chit chat face to face, it's went well. I am not saying everyone should or would do this but I'm someone who tries to find a solution that meets both mine and potential clients needs. And I'm open to suggestions from potential clients on what would work for us both. It's really for me a case by case scenario, but I like to make it easy so we can get to the good stuff!!

[Strix]

Personally, I just run the phone number through an app that shows any reports on the guy. Sometimes it works sometimes it does it but bottom line is as many horror stories as I hear about the scheming, and robbing of Hobbyists it's the hobbyist who has more to lose. If my gut says no then it's no period. I also meet the client outside my building when they arrive so if alarms go off, I haven't given up room number and it's in the middle of a busy parking lot so chance of any harm being done is slim to none. and for the record if law enforcement is after you and wants to bust you, you will not be able to stop them. they can pass any screening question you throw at them. They are the police they have the methods. And it's a class B misdemeanor you're not going to go to prison for life unlessyou have things at your in call or on your person that are more serious than a class B misdemeanor. Another good thing to do is ask the gentleman to call and hear his voice. Alot of times you can tell a lot about someone by the intonations in their voice it always puts me at ease. as providers I know that we are busy and we don't have time for a long drawn out chat conversations or phone calls but sometimes if we take the time to listen to the person we're going to see for just a little bit we can kind of feel them out and see where they're coming from if there's anger in their words or in their voice if there's frustration etc etc it works for me a lot.

Alot of common sense here! Completely agree, the hobbyist has far more to risk/lose. I have no idea what's in that room with you or in the bathroom or whatever. Screening to avoid LE is silly and naïve for the exact reasons you posted.

Anyone that would ask for real world info is an immediate no. I have a solid p411 record from reputable providers with good reps so if that isn't enough then i'm just moving on.