do you think covid is real and a threat

[slocum]

No one is telling me im in danger of becoming a millionaire because they know someone who knew someone who won

I think you were suggesting that the death rate from COVID is overblown, or that we shouldn't fear death from COVID, because almost no one actually knows anyone who died. I am saying that line of reasoning is illogical because the death total could be as high as 1.1 M and still almost no one would know anyone who has died.

I personally do not fear death due to COVID, but I have a respect for it, and I'm going to try not to tempt it. I wouldn't want to catch COVID from someone due to their negligence and I would hate to give it to someone due to my negligence. It seems that asking everyone to be prudent is reasonable. But to be honest, reading this thread is probably the most I have thought about it in the last two months.

[knottyman]

I think you were suggesting that the death rate from COVID is overblown, or that we shouldn't fear death from COVID, because almost no one actually knows anyone who died. I am saying that line of reasoning is illogical because the death total could be as high as 1.1 M and still almost no one would know anyone who has died.

I personally do not fear death due to COVID, but I have a respect for it, and I'm going to try not to tempt it. I wouldn't want to catch COVID from someone due to their negligence and I would hate to give it to someone due to my negligence. It seems that asking everyone to be prudent is reasonable. But to be honest, reading this thread is probably the most I have thought about it in the last two months.

I do believe the Covid death rate is way overblown.
To use your Mega millions analogy.
Imagine them saying 3 out of 100 won the megamillion, but you found out 2 actually won on scratch offs but bought megamillion tickets with the same purchase and therefore was considered winning at megamillion. I'm sure even you would say the chances were overblown.
Dying with covid is NOT the same as dying from covid.

[xrival14]

knottyman is one of those people that walks into HEB without a mask and then yells at the employees when they tell him nicely a mask is required to enter.

[ProSlacker]

Dying with covid is NOT the same as dying from covid.

WTF? So people who get Covid and die probably die from pneumonia, but they would not have gotten pneumonia if they had not gotten Covid.

You are making a distinction without a difference - possibly the most textbook case of that I have ever seen.

It seems like people who downplay the risks of Covid are incredibly persistent about it. I don't understand why it is so important to them to convince others.

[knottyman]

Not at all. I do go into stores without a mask. But when asked to wear one I simply leave without a scene. I'm respectful of others rights even if they're not respectful of mine.

[knottyman]

WTF? So people who get Covid and die probably die from pneumonia, but they would not have gotten pneumonia if they had not gotten Covid.

You are making a distinction without a difference - possibly the most textbook case of that I have ever seen.

It seems like people who downplay the risks of Covid are incredibly persistent about it. I don't understand why it is so important to them to convince others.

Seriously?
So a guy with covid dies in a car crash is a covid death?
A drunk who has covid and drowns while swimming is a covid death?
Someone with stage 4 liver cancer dies on a Tuesday instead of Thursday is a covid death?
C'mon, man!

[ProSlacker]

Seriously?
So a guy with covid dies in a car crash is a covid death?
A drunk who has covid and drowns while swimming is a covid death?
Someone with stage 4 liver cancer dies on a Tuesday instead of Thursday is a covid death?
C'mon, man!

No. If someone dies in the cases you mention as examples, a Covid test isn't performed, so.... C'mon man!

Elderly people who had not been previously diagnosed with Covid and die outside a hopspital aren't tested for Covid, so the deaths are under reported, not exaggerated.

[knottyman]

Seriously, actually saying hospitals haven't reported car wreck deaths , gunshot deaths, shark attack deaths as covid.
Really?
As far as pneumonia covid deaths. Covid (mostly) affects those with compromised health issues. So a person who has pneumonia and catches covid died of pneumonia exacerbated by covid. But a healthy person who catches covid then dies of pneumonia would be a covid death.
Again. There's a difference between dying with covid and dying from covid

[knottyman]

No. If someone dies in the cases you mention as examples, a Covid test isn't performed, so.... C'mon man!

Elderly people who had not been previously diagnosed with Covid and die outside a hopspital aren't tested for Covid, so the deaths are under reported, not exaggerated.

You obviously didn't actually read my post.
I said" A guy "WITH COVID"dies in a car crash.
Meaning he's obviously already been tested or was tested after his death.

[xrival14]

Not at all. I do go into stores without a mask. But when asked to wear one I simply leave without a scene. I'm respectful of others rights even if they're not respectful of mine.

In what way is being required to wear a mask infringing on your rights?

[knottyman]

You dont think I have a right to gauge my own safety. If masks actually work. Then you wearing one should protect you from me not wearing one. It's not the government's job to tell me how to protect me.
Same reason breathalyzer aren't standard on every car.

[xrival14]

You dont think I have a right to gauge my own safety. If masks actually work. Then you wearing one should protect you from me not wearing one. It's not the government's job to tell me how to protect me.
Same reason breathalyzer aren't standard on every car.

A mask isn't about protecting yourself, it's about protecting others. Obviously you have no respect for anyone other than yourself.

[knottyman]

If masks work. Then you're already protected

[xrival14]

If masks work. Then you're already protected

I bet you think the earth is flat, too.

[knottyman]

I bet you think the earth is flat, too.

And you believe the sky is falling.
So, how many people do you actually know who have died from this?