I dont know exactly what your issue is, saustin, but it's getting pretty childish now.
First of all uncredentialed is essentially everyone here b/c people aren't willing to put their credentials out here openly (for damn good reason). That does *NOT* mean people don't post opinions or even objective data and research though.
Secondly, I don't think you understand the word unsubstantiated b/c that is simply incorrect usage. It is substantiated. Furthermore, you yourself could substantiate it.
The entire issue surrounding the covid debate about lethality is highly polarized political climates. Unfortunately the clown known as Trump has created a situation where the two competing scientific theories here are aligned with each political party agenda. The liberal establishment, which I'm far more comfortable with and supportive of, sees (particularly mainstream outlets) as being the dissenting view from aligned with that clown Trump. That guy doesn't his know his *ss from a hole in the ground; it just so happens though that in this case the opposing scientific view (and therefore seen as, "dissenting", from liberal viewpoints) is actually correct. It's not Trump who is right. He's a clown who got lucky in being correct for all the wrong reasons.
The lethality issue is why I think you have an issue with this entire topic, b/c you disagree so vehemently, with no real data, no facts, nor any postulates of your own. Interesting.
Thirdly, the point of the post had nothing to do with lethality or dangers of covid. It was simply about vaccines. And if you think what I said is unsubstantiated then I can no longer even communicate with someone who is that belligerent and defiantly obstinate to commonly known 11th & 12th grade level biology science.
If you honestly think the *other* argument is unsubstantiated, I will happily point you to the 50+ antibody studies, Dr Mittledorf, Dr Katz, world renowned Stanford professor Dr John Ioannidis (famed for his paper nearly 2 decades ago on flawed scientific data - whom has called this entire debacle [paraphrased] "baffling, unbelievable, and utter garbage"), the team of 100s of scientists (all listed as authors on those studies). Mittledorf, an MIT and Columbia professor, astrophysicist and 20yr+ Ph.D epidemiologist said in his article he was "ashamed of the scientific community for being complicit in such nonsense".
“We demonstrate that the United Kingdom’s lockdown was both superfluous and ineffective.”
— [Homburg and Kuhbandner].
Dr. Knut Wittkowski has said the same and did an 1.5hr long video debate on it and totally trashed the opposing expert who ultimately aquiesced, and verbally admitted it in the video, to Wittkowski's vastly superior data models and sheets as well as statistical methods. If you really want all of it I will do a separate post and put all the studies, all the video links, the actual CDC data (direct from the CDC and WHO no less!), which Wittkowski and all the other scientists used in their own data presentation and studies, all the articles, all the preprint servers (50-100k+ studies total now), etc...
Fourthly, I *am* a scientist. Sheesh. BUT furthermore you don't need to be a scientist, or a genius, or any such thing, to understand the basics and the crux of this absurd debacle our society is in right now.
Btw, no, NOT the vaccine argument above... frankly that's just laughably silly that you even mentioned it. As if it's somehow wrong That's such basic H.S. level molecular biology any tool on earth can verify it in literally 5min (no joke). I'm talking about the larger issue as to why you are such a detractor of mine lately (which again was NOT even the point of this post).
PS I am also reporting your behavior. I was very nice to you in the locker room upon my return, even after your callous quips, and yet you still come back for more?? Why? Do you actually think you can beat me in a scientific argument let alone a verbal game of raconteuring or repartee? The latter is even more ridiculous than the former. I will absolutely thrash you in that department.
Yes, this last part is purposely alpha once again b/c I'm not going to keep listening to your nonsense and even more importantly watch you cause others to ignore basic fucking science (if they are uninformed)! You don't respect people, you don't respect science, you don't respect opinions, and you're being a jerk.
I'm reporting you, blocking you, and asking for a COS. Please stop.