Corona Virus and Sex - Questions and Answers

[vandernoot]

Nikki
that is a very mature and safe approach to the hobby fun..being considerate and safe is morally correct...having fun sex is never wrong.. for fun or profit..but spreading disease is never right ..lets all be safe and clean and then we enjoy it all alot more..and do not wake up with an unpleasant bug..!!!!

[OralPassion]

Other thoughts regarding when to hobby again...
If by some unlikely miracle, accurate testing with immediate results became available to all, a Provider and Client could test simultaneously and if both are negative, hit the sheets immediately.
And only repeat if testing is repeated.
"Resolved" could also open the door to playtime.
If the science/research community comes to the conclusion that someone who had the virus and fought it off is immune and no longer contagious, those who have resolved could safely play.
And prior to a vaccine, which is many moons away, plasma/antibodies could be given to get playtime happening sooner.
In other words, whether or not the virus is spreading, or what 'wave' it's in, all the research being done might provide the means to resume feasting - that's what I'm waiting/hoping for...

[mathguy]

As to the treatments proposed certainly entertaining but highly doubt effective. I think they might kill something else maybe keep you cleaner but a myth. Kind of like guys who spray disinfection spray all over their cocks, nuts and in to their pee-holes after fucking to kill any STD's

Kosher this one is pretty much on the money and correct.

and/or girls who think a scoop of cold high probiotic content yogurt they put in their pussies at night to relieve the soreness and swollen lips will kill all yeast infections and/or STDs as well.

This one not as much buddy. It "depends". A woman does need to make sure it's proper yogurt, particularly lactobacillus acidophilus. These are the bacteria that help the pH of the vagina. It most certainly will reduce the chance of yeast infections. Even just eating the yogurt or taking the probiotics via another oral route is also a good method as well. Yeast infections and BV occur when the biota and pH of the vagina is out of balance and in particular that means lack of lactobacilli colonies (they provide the low acidic pH environment by metabolizing glucose which is secreted from epithelial cells in the vaginal wall).
Oral use of Lactobacillus rhamnosus GR-1 and L. fermentum RC-14 significantly alters vaginal flora beneficially

[Lovinglifeinaustin]

A little humor to sooth nerves.

[KosherCowboy]

This one not as much buddy. It "depends". A woman does need to make sure it's proper yogurt, particularly lactobacillus acidophilus. These are the bacteria that help the pH of the vagina. It most certainly will reduce the chance of yeast infections. Even just eating the yogurt or taking the probiotics via another oral route is also a good method as well. Yeast infections and BV occur when the biota and pH of the vagina is out of balance and in particular that means lack of lactobacilli colonies (they provide the low acidic pH environment by metabolizing glucose which is secreted from epithelial cells in the vaginal wall).
Oral use of Lactobacillus rhamnosus GR-1 and L. fermentum RC-14 significantly alters vaginal flora beneficially

Good summation . W/O a doubt serves as a good cleanser and an odor deterrent as well.

I do not think we will see any medical experts come out and say ' ok folks, it is ok to have sex' and certainly given the fact we are not regulated we won't have an official ruling such as a country like Austria or Switzerland saying the sex venues are now safe to open. It looks like the ban on them will be continued, TBD in a short time. I think it is mathematically impossible if one who is abstaining now who wishes to jump back in prior to a vaccine in 12-18 months for them not to take on some risk be it today, tomorrow, a week, a month, 2-3 months, 6 months etc. If one does not have antibodies than unless vaccinated there can not be any chance of playing risk free for the Chinesevirus. The only thing I can think of is a girl ( or a guy) having a certificate showing they are ' immune.' However; I highly doubt we will be flashing certificates considering those engaging now can not prove to their partner they are CV Free or have antibodies in their system; folks are fucking ' blindly' as to health risks...This should actually work in the benefit of those not engaging as the health risk is being outsourced to others to reduce the total population Covid+ and in time making it harder for the Chinesevirus to populate for the rest of us..

And a huge ' thank you' to the Chinese for reopening Wuhan with the greatest light show I have ever seen! How considerate and kind of them to screw the world and now openly brag ' Wuhan is open for business.'

I fear with the good news or better said more positive news that some M and F's alike might jump back in the game prematurely greatly increasing the risk creating a short term spike in ' hobby infections' as is being seen in Spain now.

Being a math guy, and using all the charts and graphs you see, ( won't hold u to this medically !!) when do you anticipate a point short of a vaccine where enough in the pool of participants will be high enough to mitigate the risk to a comfortable level and/or a level where ' safe individuals not engaging now' might possibly reconsider...

[Groovy Johnson]

Funny how when presented with facts that don't make dear leader look good, the no politics please is invoked.

Ellen has admonished pro trump remarks countless times.

[Agent220]

Funny how when presented with facts that don't make dear leader look good, the no politics please is invoked.

The Ellen on E is wearing a different hat than the Ellen here.

[Phoenixx]

ChinesevirusII now in the works as they haven't stopped serving cats and dogs and bats and monkeys in the wet markets of China.

you seem very obsessed with another part of the world causing illness when
you need to worry about the disease breeding ground that's much closer to home:

Factory Farms

these farms can brew up mad cow disease, E. coli, swine flu, etc. with a risk of causing major
zoonotic disease outbreaks and drug-resistant bacteria, from its unnatural feeds,
hormones, and excessive quantities of antibiotics...

so, while you're worrying about some Chinese wet market sickening us, know that
we were already diseased from American factory farms after consuming hormone, grain-fed,
abused animals that keeps us sick as the obesity epidemic continues along with other chronic
diseases and our terrible healthcare system just adds more fuel to the fire.....

Actually there is a 3rd one too. And possibly ChinesevirusII. Just have to take them one at a time. I think the real reality is we aren't out of the woods until a vaccine is found, than we are at 100%.

we'll never be 100% unless they develop a vaccine that can protect against ALL strains of coronavirus

there's already multiple strains of the coronavirus out there, so you're late to that party
unless this 'Chinesevirus' you speak of is like some new anticipated hybrid virus of the decade

For the 2nd and 3rd waves and anything future we should at least know how to deal with them better, will be prepared and certainly should not see the devastation we see now.

there is no 'herd immunity' if there's virus mutations.
previous infections won't protect against new strains

but I wonder how that herd immunity is working for Boris tho........

I don't think any of us know anything about the second wave. No one knows the herd immunity level either at that time.

HERD IMMUNITY WILL NOT SAVE US FROM THE CORONAVIRUS

I also believe at some time we need to get this economy going again and take a chance,

if we take a chance, then we need to implement some new habits
that'll aid prevention....

prevention > 'herd immunity'

!

[mathguy]

we'll never be 100% unless they develop a vaccine that can protect against ALL strains of coronavirus

Yep. Exactly. 100%

I just commented on this in another thread. Not just coronaviruses either. This goes for any vaccine. Vaccines work by creating special proteins that we commonly call "antibodies". When a pathogen is detected our antibodies go-to work and bind to the antigen (the pathogen which triggered the immune response). This disables the viral cell essentially and we eliminate it.

The problem with ANY vaccine is that it relies on a particular viral or bacterial structure. Both of these organism families are known to mutate at high rates. It's very common that a small mutation does nothing at all or is even in detrimental. In fact, the vast majority are of this type and many times they don't even change the structure enough that a previously developed antibody protein in our system wouldn't recognize it and kill it by binding to its antigen receptor site.

However, b/c we are talking about trillions and trillions of cells (bacterial or viral) throughout a person, or population of people who are infected, the opportunity exists for advantageous mutations to arise (particularly with high rates of mutation in bacteria and virii relative other organisms). When a significant enough mutation happens the antibodies that protect us against that particular pathogen (viral or bacterial) will be no good. Our body will not recognize this "new" invader. We would need a new vaccine OR get sick again and develop new antibodies (either or). That's the whole reason that we have yearly flu vaccines. Sometimes last years or even the year before will cover you. If the particular flu going around in your area (or that you catch) is similar enough then your previously created antibodies will attack and you won't get sick.

There is simply no way to permanently inoculate against all pathogenic microorganisms unless we come up with a very novel ingenious way of dealing with these invaders. Trust me, whoever figures THAT one out is getting the Nobel. No questions asked, no debating, go straight to Nobel laureate haha

[Precious_b]

The Ellen on E is wearing a different hat than the Ellen here.

I don't think so.

[KosherCowboy]

you seem very obsessed with another part of the world causing illness when
you need to worry about the disease breeding ground that's much closer to home:


prevention > 'herd immunity'

I am sure buying and selling sex is a great way to prevent this spread; perhaps if we all partook in this full time today we could prevent its spread. Not worried about some mad cow e.coli spin from down on the farm. Or animals fed grain, I will go to Whole Foods next time to shop make sure I get animal feed fed well before I cook for my guests and they all get some disease. This particular mess we are dealing with is indeed from China, Did you see that wonderful light show Wuhan put on the other night? While the rest of the world deals with the mess they created. I highly doubt Boris Johnson enjoyed the show; I'm sure he will enjoy your warm words and best wishes. How about the Chinese sending supplies to all around the world now trying to improve their world image and stuff the toothpaste back in the tube? I'll go look for one of the factory farms, get Old McDonald to donate me some animals and I'll drop them off an you can make sure they are fed well to prevent the mass destruction ( disruption)these farms are causing us. Maybe you can prepare Boris a nice home cooked meal for his return home, E-coli and hormone free please. He might enjoy some fried bat, grilled cat, dog stew and monkey skewers; if they don't sell those at a market near you maybe you can get some mailed to him from the wet markets. Pretty cheap.

Or maybe just stay at home and do what is best for all or perhaps work thru this time, wonderful way to prevent the spread. We can all simply sit on our asses and wait for a vaccine for every ill in the world. Better we open the economy and take a chance. Prevention is a good start. It's nice to see many ( not all) providers doing their part.

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[Mokoa]

The political views of members is not the topic of this thread. If you want to discuss that start a separate thread.

Stay on topic.

[dodger]

The political views of members is not the topic of this thread. If you want to discuss that start a separate thread.

even better .... go to any of the millions of boards where political discussions are on topic ... and save this one for hobby topics .... and appropriate hobby content ... is nothing sacred?

[Mokoa]

Actually, that is better since political discussions are strongly discouraged here.

Thank you for reminding me of that.

[GneissGuy]

"don't knoch masturbation. it's sex with someone you love"

What if you hate yourself?

'rubbing one out' just doesn't get it done.

it feels like (or in point of fact, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE ANYTHING) if i don't touch something soft .... i'm gonna go beserk

How about a fleshlight? Never used one myself. Great, now people will be hoarding them.

I find what I think and fantasize about makes more difference to me than the actual physicality of it. Try some porn, video or stills, and mental role play.