Question for the gents

[Utrhottie]

So I have spoken to a few other ladies and it appears that the boards just arent generating revenue like it use to.

To help us better understand....why in your opinion do you think?

The younger ones are charging less but giving more?

The price points are just too high?

Your spouses are spending more money, leaving less for you to play with?

I'm curious as to why it seems like dates are being booked as they use to.

[BADGER61]

In reply to your question. You and most of the women on this site are beautiful sexy ladies with fantastic bodies. I would love to see any of you, but i am retired. On social security and a small pension. My income doesn't change. It is the same always, therefore funds for fun ad limited. I don't ask for a lot from women. I enjoy pleasing you. Seeing, touching and caressing kitty. Anything you do for me is appreciated not required. I have seen several women from the site but i can't afford what most charge.

[Passion2015]

Good thread,

I've been around just a bit and have seen prices raised to ridiculous levels which has kept me just seeing regulars.

I've also noticed that the quality of encounters have diminished dramatically to where I personally cant justify the high prices.

Back.in the day I would let a lady know what I was looking for and it would happen as soon as I walked in the door. Now days you tell a lady what you are looking for and they agree however, when you meet most of what you agreed on doesn't happen.

Now days it's more of get in and get out for which I cant justify the cost and why I see my regulars for the most part.

For me I enjoy getting into an orgasmic session for both and that type of lady for that type of quality session are hard to come by these days.

I guess my bottom line is the quality doesn't match the prices that ladies are asking, IMO

Some will read this and say, he's just cheap and wants more for less.

Some will say I pay whatever the lady ask for and basically show off as a bragger of being a high roller, IMO

Some will say your always complaining of the prices. I would say re read my opinion as to why.



FYI, I always tell it like I see it and when I make arrangements and meet a lady we both enjoy as long as we play like we agree on before we meet.

It's all about pleasing:)

[Lovinglifeinaustin]

I am spending as much as I ever have, so the reduction in revenue is not on my account.

I have not noticed the younger women charging less. Mostly the opposite.

Price point levels are a subjective matter. But in my experience, an increase in price normally more than offsets the revenue reduction caused by lower demand. But this is a strange realm, so the effects here may not be similar to my other experiences.

My spouse is a frugal woman, bless her heart.

The SESTA/FOSTA laws may have influenced demand. They certainly influenced the manner in which the boards operate.

There may be more UTR women causing an increase in supply.

Most internet porn is still free. And more women are chasing revenue opportunities in different areas, like camming.

My two cents.

[bob malooga]

I think it may have something to do with the rise in popularity of sugar relationships.

[Daniel Larusso]

For me 2017 financially was great. 2018 I made $13k less and 2019 made $6k less than that. Needless to say some of my play money has become harder to hide since the budget has changed. I have found a few ladies that still do QV sessions and those usually work best for the 2 pump chump. As mentioned above there are so many more beautiful ladies I would love to see but they are out of my budget. In regards to being slow on the ladies end I feel some is better than none. You may not want to lower your rate but a reasonable offer beats nothing. JMO!

P.S. This means no disrespect to the ladies it is just my humble opinion. You obviously run your business how you see fit.

[killeeninformer2]

Yeah I have more to spend on the hobby than ever before. Unfortunately the majority of girls on here just are not worth it and I have spoken to quite a few gents about this so it's a consensus. There are other hobbies I can spend my money on that are far more fulfilling and while they are on the surface more expensive they tend to be durables or if they're expendables they tend to last a long time. I've been spending more time painting and at the range for instance. Paint is relatively cheap considering how long burnt umber will last and a decent airbrush can be had for the cost of an hour session I will later regret. A cheapish rifle to plink with is the cost of two one hour sessions. Bulk ammo that will last me and my buddies a month is the cost of a half hour session (and they cover drinks after).

Now then I do have the money to spend on both. but with the ladies behavior that dis-incentivizes me abounds. As the refrain goes you don't regret the session you miss but the one you regret later. From ladies on the board I've:

1) Been told we should not clarify menu ahead of time and that I should "just give me the money and enjoy what happens."

2) Dealt with severely misleading pics.

3) Seen and parted on amicable terms but when I give an honest assessment in private that gets leaked and I end up with her screaming bloody murder at me and threatening to out me. (And people wonder why I advocate guys to never share personal info of any kind)

4) An attitude from the girls like "Hurry up and cum I haven't got all day."

5) Price points that start out at a level I could afford (200HH -300Hr... at least for now) pretty easily but with no guarantee that the girl is going to look like her pics, be offering a good menu and at least the illusion of passion, acts somewhat professional leading up to the session, and doesn't act like an out and out psychopath when I don't toe the line.

And none of this is just me either. I get better service, better honesty, and with a very, very few exceptions better looks going to listcrawler most of the time.

Another issue you girls are going to run into is that with all the above dudes have not much reason to stray from regulars. I currently have a regular and in the last month she's gotten just under a thousand dollars out of me. So should I see my regular who is known to give an outstanding performance at a great rate or should I take a chance at shelling out 300 to get disappointed again? Even then I *am* still seeing other girls. It's just other than a few of my ISOs it's usually not a girl from the board.

If girls want to make money consider actually competing with rates and level of service. Not even "services" as in menu but just having good TCB and being actually friendly BCD. I can't tell you how many times I've had money in my pocket and stayed home because of poor TCB. It's like some girls think they can walk all over their customers and to be honest I think some of the dudes here give that impression... but they tend not to have a lot of disposable income.

[risn2theoccasion2]

My dear. You and I just had a private conversation on this, and as I said it has nothing to do with your service level. I can sympathize with what some of the others have said about changing income. I have a salary, but much of my income is based on commissions and bonuses. Competition in my industry has changed dramatically in the past 4 to 5 years. Plus, I have personal factors that have also decreased my disposable income.

I will never say what a lady should charge for her services. None of my business. The only thing I will say is, from a business standpoint when the competition gets high, you have to do something to make yourself stand out either with additional services or what the market will bear in pricing for similar services.

For example, my company has had two really bad years and has lost many clients to the competition. To be honest, we have been around for so long, we thought our shit didn’t stink. So we had to look at making some serious changes. We cut rates by 25% and added features that were cost effective to make us more attractive when comparing us to the competition. We actually started acting like we give a damn about the client and showed some interest in them. For instance, ask “How was you experience today? Is there anything we could have done better? What can we do to make your experience better next time?” We get some unreasonable responses, but most will just be happy that we cared enough to ask. Some have legitimate requests that are easy to accomplish. We also have legacy clients that have been with us for years that are given price breaks. You may charge $XXX to someone new, but you might consider something like this. “Hey, we are seeing each other for $XXX about twice a month, if you can see me 3 times a month, I will see you for $XYZ each time.

Again, I don’t want to lose my testicles for making recommendations, I am just making some suggestions from a business standpoint. Each lady should charge for her service as she sees fit.

[ProSlacker]

There is probably less disposable income available to spend. Consiumer debt is at record levels now - $930 billion in credit card debt. Housing prices have risen, but salaries have not gone up much in the last several years for many professions. Auto sales declined in 2019 - to a point that Q4 hit Ford really hard - trucks were up but passenger cars fell 41%.

It could be people are cutting back on spending.

[Daniel Larusso]

One thing I'll add also is that I would never consider a hour session. I usually don't have a ton of time and as mentioned before I'm a 2 pump chump. That being said it may benefit some ladies to offer HH sessions who usually only offer hours or more. Just a thought.

[a1soundman]

I tend to agree with what the guys have said. I hobby less than I did in the past and mainly stick to regulars. There’s something to be said for knowing what your paying for. I enjoy mature providers that satisfy my needs, most of the younger ladies have too much attitude and too high a price for their skill set. Yes experience does matter and I want to feel like my money spent was justified. The hobby can overtake your life if you let it, remember why you’re here in the first place. Hopefully it’s to escape the daily grind, have great sex and an experience to remember. No bad attitude, drama, TCB or disrespect both ways.

[Kallie Bloomquist]

i usually need an hour, and I never haggle about price. the last time i hobbied in ATX the provider wanted to talk about her ex-boyfriend, i said she was great, and I did not need to hear it, but i would listen. The eighteen minutes spent talking about the ex boyfriend and his toxic comments was deducted from my 60 minutes, and the timer i left in my car registered 63 minutes when i returned. i always leave a timer in my car to see if i am getting a fair shake, and this particular provider stated in her ad that she is not a clock watcher and her clients were not expected to watch the clock. i didn't watch the clock, i just wanna know for future reference if i am getting a fair shake. when i gave her the envelope with the offering, she looked in there and counted the money, and made a comment that there was not anything extra. i was also asked why I dressed like a homeless person, and this provider was wearing the same patterned fleece sweatpants she wore on our last visit. That is why i think hobbying is down, more money and less customer friendly service.

The other thing about the timer, if I overstay i want to bring a gift/tip next time, or at least leave early.


Another provider got upset because she wanted to wear shorts, and i asked her to wear jeans and a tshirt-nothing exotic or demeaning. She said she wanted to be the bad girl, while i thought i was paying for my fantasy (not hers.)

[AlCar0314]

There is probably less disposable income available to spend. Consiumer debt is at record levels now - $930 billion in credit card debt. Housing prices have risen, but salaries have not gone up much in the last several years for many professions. Auto sales declined in 2019 - to a point that Q4 hit Ford really hard - trucks were up but passenger cars fell 41%.

It could be people are cutting back on spending.

Exactly! Every time I save up $150 for a BNG, I think to myself how much faster I can pay off my new tires and other debts.

[risn2theoccasion2]

SIDE BAR NOTE: I just saw a response on another thread. This goes to what I said in my post above about showing appreciation. Don’t make comments about how insignificant and low rated we are then expect us to continue to see you. We are worth more as human beings than a few C Notes. Yes we are customers doing a business transaction, but we no less important. Just saying.

[Kallie Bloomquist]

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