Verification using personal info??

[jacksparrow]

Let's play a fair game, I'll give you mine if you give me yours. If you want a face or ID picture, you do the same too. Is easy to ask others to expose themselves, while you keep hiding....we have more to lose crap excuse is not enough, in this world we all have something to lose.
What I am trying to say is, no pussy is worth losing everything you have in the real life....marriage, kids, job, friends....etc......in other words don't be stupid enough to send RW info to a provider.....

[LiveFree]

Luv not a personal problem. Sharing to make sure other hobbyist don't feel pressured due to inexperience and ever provide that info to a stranger in this hobby. There are many with ill intentions out there.

This is a good point because lots of high quality providers who aren't on review boards ask for this. This seems to be the standard for them and it's quite one sided and very risky. This also leads to some newbies really wanting the experience and submitting said info without clarification of securely discarded personal info. Either way doesn't matter who it is do not do it. Your personal/professional life should never be in play just to hobby. There are many other ways to screen and ensure safety from both sides. If you really wanna be an asshole just ask the provider for her screening info lol.

[JessieJane]

Do not ask to come to a private location. A ladies apt .Without expecting strict screening.

[Lovelyjordan]

Everyone is different but don’t give out personal information, I would never ask for that type of stuff, if the vibes aren’t right then I just won’t see you, if your far I do require small deposit but nothing over $40 but that’s just me. Everyone has their preference so just pick the right provider that suits your screening comfortability

[Kandii_Kane]

Do not ask to come to a private location. A ladies apt .Without expecting strict screening.

That part!

[Vanessa]

That part!

Exactly! If you are going to a someone's private incall/home, then there's a good chance if you can figure out that person's real world info if you really want to. The fact is that people don't want to. And the nefarious people who want to do you harm will find out your info if they want to, no matter how careful you are.

If you are happy only meeting up at hourly cash hotels, then fine, you shouldn't give up personal info. But if you are meeting at a private location, then BOTH people are giving up personal info and that gives you both skin in the game.

I know of a male hobbyist with multiple sting arrests. All of which were cases were he answered ads for ladies who didn't ask for anything but "when can you get here?" You'd think he'd learn after the first couple of arrests.

[Universal]

^^^this
And he can get her car tag info at her private address.

[Anna Nikkole]

I'm not just gonna tell a newbie to come on over with nothing lol. I try to keep it as easy, discreet and private as possible. And I have no issues. Every now and then you get a entitled fuck who thinks just because his money is green you should just shut up and be happy to see him. Not my type of client actually, but the provider takes more risk, especially established providers like many of us here including myself. So move on to the next lady's screening if you don't like it!!!

[Krystal_RoseBBW]

Over the years I have relied on different ways to screen.
I've done the "vibe" thing and only trusted my gut with no more information than a first name and a conversation.
That lead to getting a LOT of my time and money wasted by "fantasy bookers" and NCNS with zero repercussions on him because he was using an app number that can be changed to do the same crap to the next girl.

I've done the "reference" thing.
That lead to losing the booking because the references took too long to reply (if at all), and too much of the session being taken up with him wanting to "regale" me on how his sessions went with those providers. - This is non of my business and makes me extremely uncomfortable. (Guys, please don't do this)
Not to mention the fact that I was seeing WAY too many girls that have IMO far too lax screening/discretion so I couldn't trust a reference from them.

Whether he is visiting me at my residential incall (my home) or anywhere else, I am still a member of the "weaker sex" and I refuse to be alone, naked, and in a most vulnerable situation with someone that I have little to no recourse should he do me harm. PERIOD.

So, if he doesn't want to give me the information I require to feel safe in his presence, then I wish him luck in his search and save my time and energy for those that are happy to trust me as much with their info as they trust me with their dick between my teeth. ;-P

[Guest 101723-1]

You referenced this post being there to warn newbies but newbies are the NUMBER ONE gents that will be thoroughly screened in this manner. They have no references, no board presence, no one to say if they’re safe, cops, harmful, dangerous, ect. That’s why more information is REQUIRED. If ladies aren’t asking newbies for RW information, please make sure to let me know. I do NOT want a reference from you.

Also, it’s about the providers history and reputation on the board. Why be afraid to give an experienced and well reviewed provider your screening information? Genuine question.

[SalmaXO]

First and foremost you need to think why you are being asked for all of that info.

Personally, I only ask for that stuff IF it’s a NEW client with NO references.

There’s different reasons why a client doesn’t have references:

1. the client is a true “newbie”

2. the client doesn’t have recent references

3. no one will vouch for him because he’s a bad client

Us providers need to protect ourselves and if you have a problem with that I’m glad to send you to the “Newbie friendly” list. Just know that any reputable provider will still ask for personal info.

My advice to clients that feel they shouldn’t be asked for personal info. If a provider asks for little or no info BEWARE because she will see ANYONE and could be setting you up. No one is going to willingly risk their safety to appease your privacy. UNLESS they have bad intentions or are desperate to book (which can’t be good either).

In my experience the best clients I’ve had DON’T hesitate to give you whatever information you need. They happen to be very influential men in the community and visit me often.

Its the ones that are so weary about handing me their info that turn out to be an issue in the future.

PS: If you choose reputable providers your information is SAFE. We don’t give a crap about your real world information. We don’t care who you are. We just want to know you are a gentleman that will keep us safe. No one will have your info unless you fuck up and do something bad to a provider and police need to be involved.

The way I see it is, you trust me with your info, I trust you with my body and because I value myself I won’t take the risk of not screening. Says a lot about providers that don’t screen don’t you think?

[SalmaXO]

So clients that don’t want to screen properly, here are your choices:

1. You can visit a couple ladies from the newbie friendly list (which doesn’t mean they won’t ask for ID so you have to do a lot of research) and you may realize later why they don’t ask for a lot of information/learn the hard way.

2. Send your REAL info with ID and all to P411 where they actually keep a log of all your information.

3. OR you can suck it up and visit a reputable lady of your liking with good reviews the first time around that will respect your wishes of deleting your personal information after your first encounter AND will vouch for you to see other ladies.

[NordicJag]

Are there providers that know personal information about me? Yes, but they didn't get that information until we had developed a mutual trust with each other. As Krystal alluded to, there is kind of a Catch-22 when it comes to screening of newbies of both genders. So what's the solution? For me it was very simple. I actually did give personal information to almost all of the ladies I've scheduled with before I had ever seen them. What information did I give them? I gave my real first name, the day of the month I was born on, the first letter of the city I was born in, and the last 4 digits of my driver's license. Some of you may recognize this as the information that makes up a hobbyist's ID on P411. My advice to all newbie hobbyists is bite the bullet and pay for P411 membership. It's not that much considering that it will save you many frustrations.

The other advice I have is treat the ladies you visit with respect and most of them will be more than willing to give you a reference. Hobby on,

[JessieJane]

First and foremost you need to think why you are being asked for all of that info.

Personally, I only ask for that stuff IF it’s a NEW client with NO references.

There’s different reasons why a client doesn’t have references:

1. the client is a true “newbie”

2. the client doesn’t have recent references

3. no one will vouch for him because he’s a bad client

Us providers need to protect ourselves and if you have a problem with that I’m glad to send you to the “Newbie friendly” list. Just know that any reputable provider will still ask for personal info.

My advice to clients that feel they shouldn’t be asked for personal info. If a provider asks for little or no info BEWARE because she will see ANYONE and could be setting you up. No one is going to willingly risk their safety to appease your privacy. UNLESS they have bad intentions or are desperate to book (which can’t be good either).

In my experience the best clients I’ve had DON’T hesitate to give you whatever information you need. They happen to be very influential men in the community and visit me often.

Its the ones that are so weary about handing me their info that turn out to be an issue in the future.

PS: If you choose reputable providers your information is SAFE. We don’t give a crap about your real world information. We don’t care who you are. We just want to know you are a gentleman that will keep us safe. No one will have your info unless you fuck up and do something bad to a provider and police need to be involved.

The way I see it is, you trust me with your info, I trust you with my body and because I value myself I won’t take the risk of not screening. Says a lot about providers that don’t screen don’t you think?

+1

[GeorgeDRII]

Discretion and safety to both parties is what matters here. Gentlemen if you do not agree with one of the ladies screening process, then try another lady. If you're a new hobbyist you should expect more tight screening until you become verified. As far as P411 sure it's a good site for easier verification, however that doesn't mean that one of the gents won't still be a miscreant knuckle dragging Neanderthal and act as such towards a lady. Again gents you must put this in your memory banks, each of these ladies has a RW life. Plus if they don't know you from a can of paint, the idea of the carnal activities that are about to take place where you're using her body to do the nasty things that you dream of doing well....

Gentlemen if you visit a lady at her residence, don't think you can just "stop by" whenever after that. Don't even go there. Then she can get you for stalking her, and the same goes for the ladies as well. This is hobbying only. Keep it to that. It's different once you've built up a rapport with a person, then keep it to a level of respect for each other.