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    Exclamation Decriminalization vs. Legalization



    Decrim simply removes police interactions & criminal penalties.
    Meanwhile, legalization still has instances of police interaction due to regulations,
    licenses, zoning, processes, etc. and is not ideal for survival and low income sex workers.






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    Legalization is more probable to provide protections in law and more likely to occur than decriminalization. Simply because legalization is more profitable and more politically justifiable than mere decriminalization. In my opinion.
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    The government should classify us as the porn industry and be done with the BS. We get a business license and everyone is happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal View Post
    The government should classify us as the porn industry and be done with the BS. We get a business license and everyone is happy.
    And how would that improve the current situation? Even porn has advertising restrictions and implicit associations like alcohol, tabacco and gambling.
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    Like Phoenixx, I prefer simple decriminalization to licensing. And rather than the porn industry, how about entertainment or counseling services?

    We should give sex workers what THEY want, and fuck government and what’s in it for them. I thought that this woman stated it nicely.

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    I concur. However, I suggest that the government's objective is to generate revenue not necessarily to reduce crime, make sex work safer or empower sex workers. I concur because metadata analysis consistently finds that decriminalization produces the best outcomes with the least undesirable consequences in a cost effective manner.
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    I agree with Phoenixx. Decriminalization is far better for the sex worker and for *all* parties currently engaged in the various revenue generating aspects of the sex work profession.

    Wes, when you say it's more profitable legally surely you mean only for the govt? There is no possible way it's more lucrative for anyone in the sex work profession (be it indie providers, man/woman, managers, or site operators).

    Decriminalization is the best route. We don't want ridiculous oversight, taxation, all these zoning/ordinance laws, policies, process laws, etc... All these things will put money in the govts pocket and take it out of all the people involved in sex work (again, at *every* level of the sex work pyramid or chain).

    Edit: One other thing I'll mention, and why I've said not to worry about new laws against it, such as the recent thread that came up, is b/c though it's not technically decriminalized yet it is all but a defacto standard that it actually *is* virtually decriminalized for communities like these.
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    Decriminalization producest the best sociatal outcomes in the long run in the most cost efficient manner...In my opinion. This permits governmental entities to focus their limited resources on criminal and other anti- social activities that should enjoy a higher law enforcement priority. In this way, independent contractors can operate with low start-up costs with minimal recurring expenses.

    Legalization increases operating expenses especially for independent contractors not part of a legal brothel. While legalization may be profitable for governmental entities and the supporting infrastructure (brothels, security, medical, financial, advertising, etc.), but the independent contractor may incur higher operating expenses and still face criminal and civil penalties for non-compliance. Protections in law that come with legalization may not constitute a significant advantage unless a sex workers real world identity is protected.


    Hence, legalization of sex work is profitable but more so for regulatory agencies, brothels and lobbyists that influence legislators to implement laws favorable to the business operations of industry leaders and major stakeholders at the expense of independent contractors.


    Those providers that manage their hobby activities as a business may have already forcasted and devised contingency plans they may now consider a trade secret and competitive advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westley View Post
    Decriminalization producest the best sociatal outcomes in the long run in the most cost efficient manner...In my opinion. This permits governmental entities to focus their limited resources on criminal and other anti- social activities that should enjoy a higher law enforcement priority. In this way, independent contractors can operate with low start-up costs with minimal recurring expenses.

    Legalization increases operating expenses especially for independent contractors not part of a legal brothel. While legalization may be profitable for governmental entities and the supporting infrastructure (brothels, security, medical, financial, advertising, etc.), but the independent contractor may incur higher operating expenses and still face criminal and civil penalties for non-compliance. Protections in law that come with legalization may not constitute a significant advantage unless a sex workers real world identity is protected.


    Hence, legalization of sex work is profitable but more so for regulatory agencies, brothels and lobbyists that influence legislators to implement laws favorable to the business operations of industry leaders and major stakeholders at the expense of independent contractors.


    Those providers that manage their hobby activities as a business may have already forcasted and devised contingency plans they may now consider a trade secret and competitive advantage.

    ya, we get it

    Legalization benefits the gov while decrim empowers the prostitutes

    you’re like repeating yourself... lawd



    Quote Originally Posted by Westley View Post
    And how would that improve the current situation? Even porn has advertising restrictions and implicit associations like alcohol, tabacco and gambling.

    that was Uni’s way of saying, ”Ya. We know, but thanks anyways.”


    Quote Originally Posted by Universal View Post
    The government should classify us as the porn industry and be done with the BS. We get a business license and everyone is happy.

    muah



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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx View Post

    LOL

    you terrible x



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    Quote Originally Posted by Westley View Post
    Rules were made to be broken and in the "business" world broken rules are nothing but exceptions to policy. Yes in deed, you two Pitney are terrible alright...starting to sound (crazy) like one of my ex-wives. I should know. Driving women crazy.....that's my super power. Yup! I still got it after all these years. Y"all probably just want me for my superlative domestic skills though. Just so you know..."la petite mort" is legal in my world but largely unregulated. So prepare yourselves. Challenge accepted....mortal combat it is. Right after breakfast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal View Post
    The government should classify us as the porn industry and be done with the BS. We get a business license and everyone is happy.
    Legalize it, license it, zone it, tax it. Like porn actors, escorts are paid performers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppa_Viagra View Post
    Legalize it, license it, zone it, tax it. Like porn actors, escorts are paid performers.
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