Being stiffed on time

[charlestudor2005]

I'm kind of new to this...but going to ask the question anyway, and hope for guidance from hobbyists and providers alike. My two most expensive sessions, for which I was expecting companionship for an hour or so, were both brought up short--by about a half hour.

Now in each situation I had a sealed gift available for when the provider left. And in each situation the provider cut the companionship session short by about half.

So, my question is: what do you do when this occurs?

Do you reduce the gift by half? Most providers don't charge proportionally. Oftentimes its big portion of the gift for a half hour, which encourages requesting a full hour because it is just a little more, not double the half hour. So reducing the gift by half doesn't seem quite right.

Do you force the provider to stay for the whole time? I'm just not that kind of guy. I intend to live up to my end, and expect other people to live up to theirs.

What are the other options? I would definitely love some feedback on this subject.

[geniusman]

I booked with a provider for a 90 minute session several months ago but while I was there she had to shorten it by 30 minutes and knocked the fee down to the hourly rate so these things happen sometime

If the provider is on an outcall and has to leave early trust that she will understand reducing the gift is the appropriate accomedation

[just4funindfw (no longer active here)]

Was it something you said or did that cause them to leave early? If not, you can always write a review so that others are aware of their behaviors.

[charlestudor2005]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (just4funindfw @ Feb 24 2009, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Was it something you said or did that cause them to leave early? If not, you can always write a review so that others are aware of their behaviors.[/b]

I just got done posting a review on this one because I am so mad about it. I try to review any way, but most of my reviews have been pretty good. It was not something I said or did. I&#39;m very laid back, and not offensive--a definite gentleman. It happened once before. I&#39;m in my late 50s and generally have only 1 pop, and tend to get there quickly. What I tried to explain at the beginning of the session was that I know I am like that, and would prefer to leave the pop towards the end. I think this provider took advantage of that knowledge. Thanks for the question.

[Quiet Smiles]

Most GFE providers don&#39;t operate that way. If anything, we tend to go over on time and are rarely compensated for the extra. Typically, GFE providers enjoy kissing and snuggling and wouldn&#39;t think of jumping up and leaving like that. We are also much more about pleasing the gentleman and unless it&#39;s something we just don&#39;t do, like greek or something, we go with what the gentleman wants to do. I can&#39;t imagine ignoring a request like that and forcing the gentleman pop asap.

However, some providers operate under a different set rules. A lot of them say in their ads "up to an hour" - that&#39;s code for "you pop, I leave." I would hope that previous reviews would tip a guy off to which kind of experience he can likely expect - that way he can choose a provider who&#39;s more in tune with his idea of fun. ;)

[male_ego_98]

Nice to know Quiet Smiles. Some of us "older" lovers that a few minutes to rejuvenate ourselves after the 1st "pop".

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Quiet Smiles @ Feb 25 2009, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Most GFE providers don&#39;t operate that way. If anything, we tend to go over on time and are rarely compensated for the extra. Typically, GFE providers enjoy kissing and snuggling and wouldn&#39;t think of jumping up and leaving like that. We are also much more about pleasing the gentleman and unless it&#39;s something we just don&#39;t do, like greek or something, we go with what the gentleman wants to do. I can&#39;t imagine ignoring a request like that and forcing the gentleman pop asap.

However, some providers operate under a different set rules. A lot of them say in their ads "up to an hour" - that&#39;s code for "you pop, I leave." I would hope that previous reviews would tip a guy off to which kind of experience he can likely expect - that way he can choose a provider who&#39;s more in tune with his idea of fun. ;)[/b]

[maxx (no longer active here)]

I too have had some providers get up and put their clothes on after a shortened session. I&#39;ve noticed it&#39;s usually the younger girls, seems they&#39;re out just to make the $$ and not concerned if you&#39;ll ever return or call them again. I have questioned "is my time up?" only to get a bleak stare as to "YEP". I&#39;ve learned to ask questions like "is there 2nd ops with an hour session?" or "Can we start with a 1/2 hr and possibly make it an hour?". Especially if it&#39;s your 1st meeting with the lady. I&#39;ve found most are receptive and will try to accomodate your needs or wants. Once you find a good one you click with you will return again & again. Good Luck and Happy Hobbying!!!

[charlestudor2005]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (maxx @ Feb 25 2009, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I too have had some providers get up and put their clothes on after a shortened session. I&#39;ve noticed it&#39;s usually the younger girls, seems they&#39;re out just to make the $$ and not concerned if you&#39;ll ever return or call them again. I have questioned "is my time up?" only to get a bleak stare as to "YEP". I&#39;ve learned to ask questions like "is there 2nd ops with an hour session?" or "Can we start with a 1/2 hr and possibly make it an hour?". Especially if it&#39;s your 1st meeting with the lady. I&#39;ve found most are receptive and will try to accomodate your needs or wants. Once you find a good one you click with you will return again & again. Good Luck and Happy Hobbying!!![/b]

This sounds like a really good tip, and I think I&#39;ll use it. Thanks everyone. And if anyone has additional suggestions, I&#39;ll be checking back.

[Fancyinheels]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (male_ego_98 @ Feb 25 2009, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Nice to know Quiet Smiles. Some of us "older" lovers that a few minutes to rejuvenate ourselves after the 1st "pop".[/b]

I love rejuvenation breaks. &#39;Tis a nice time to cuddle and talk, or just purrrrrrr if content.

I can&#39;t add much to the wisdom shared by Quiet Smiles. I have never yet ended a session early, and 99% of the time, I go over by choice. I treat my gentlemen callers the way that I would any lover. Rushing is just not GFE, and not the way I&#39;d want to be treated by a boyfriend. Goodness, if someone jumped up right after the fun and darted off like a scared bunny, I&#39;d be checking myself for coodies. :P I also think it absolutely absurd to limit "pops." Now, really, what lady would put up with it if her man said, "Sorry, hon, only one orgasm tonight."

[Dee Licious]

Try the I don&#39;t own a watch crowd :D

[Betelgeuse9999]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (charlestudor2005 @ Feb 24 2009, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I&#39;m kind of new to this...but going to ask the question anyway, and hope for guidance from hobbyists and providers alike. My two most expensive sessions, for which I was expecting companionship for an hour or so, were both brought up short--by about a half hour.

Now in each situation I had a sealed gift available for when the provider left. And in each situation the provider cut the companionship session short by about half.

So, my question is: what do you do when this occurs?

Do you reduce the gift by half? Most providers don&#39;t charge proportionally. Oftentimes its big portion of the gift for a half hour, which encourages requesting a full hour because it is just a little more, not double the half hour. So reducing the gift by half doesn&#39;t seem quite right.

Do you force the provider to stay for the whole time? I&#39;m just not that kind of guy. I intend to live up to my end, and expect other people to live up to theirs.

What are the other options? I would definitely love some feedback on this subject.[/b]

It sounds to me as if you picked the wrong ladies to start with, and everything went downhill as a result. Reducing the donation after the pop is one of the world&#39;s most delicate subjects, and best left untrodden if you don&#39;t want as much drama as an indy film festival. But such things do happen, and perhaps you just got unlucky twice in a row.

For the most part, I find that well-reviewed, long-time providers with good reps don&#39;t do such things. They may disappoint in other ways that are mostly personal, but they rarely do something as heinous as cutting the session time in half. That&#39;s a truck stop trick, not something good escorts do.

For the record, I wouldn&#39;t sweat the half-hour versus full-hour fairness doctrine. The typical understanding is that you&#39;re paying for time, period. If she exerts maximum effort in the first 30 minutes, fine. If not, fine. But your money is for time, and good providers are going to give it to you. If you only want to talk and cuddle, most will do that. If they limit you to one pop, they should say so in the menu. I would imagine that repeated hard strikes to the crotch do wear you down after a while, and having each client getting multiples might get a mite uncomfortable by the end of the week. But if so, she should mention it in her ad or site. She can switch to a BJ or something.

I can&#39;t tell you how many times I&#39;ve received and passed along this advice: stick to good, known ladies who know and follow the protocols of the hobby. They are jewels and deserve every ounce of respect and adoration we can bestow. Outside that circle, caveat emptor.

[maxx (no longer active here)]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Betelgeuse9999 @ Feb 26 2009, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

....... stick to good, known ladies who know and follow the protocols of the hobby. They are jewels and deserve every ounce of respect and adoration we can bestow. Outside that circle, caveat emptor.[/b]

Well said Betel! That&#39;s why this site exists to help eliminate the providers that take advantage of thier clients.

[MrGiz]

<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS">As others have already stated... take time to research, and find GFE+ girls who wouldn&#39;t dream of stiffing a guy for pre-agreed upon time! However... if, as you said... <span style="color:#0000FF"><span style="font-family:Arial">>> " in each situation I had a sealed gift available for when the provider left." <<</span> ... and the girl is determined to leave early... I see no reason why not to deduct from the pre-agreed fee before she takes possession of the envelope!!! </span></span>

Giz

[charlestudor2005]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MrGiz @ Feb 26 2009, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS"> take time to research, and find GFE+ girls who wouldn&#39;t dream of stiffing a guy for pre-agreed upon time! </span>

Giz[/b]

I generally do my research, and I did this time. That is why I was able to say Gina had excellent reviews.

[atlcomedy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MrGiz @ Feb 26 2009, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS">As others have already stated... take time to research, and find GFE+ girls who wouldn&#39;t dream of stiffing a guy for pre-agreed upon time! However... if, as you said... <span style="color:#0000FF"><span style="font-family:Arial">>> " in each situation I had a sealed gift available for when the provider left." <<</span> ... and the girl is determined to leave early... I see no reason why not to deduct from the pre-agreed fee before she takes possession of the envelope!!! </span></span>

Giz[/b]

Well said, in this there is always an element of TOFTT but research can help. Also on the phone, you can politely ask/remind/ensure/etc. that she understands an hour is a full hour, even if you nut in the first 10 minutes.

Just my 2 cents but I&#39;ve found once she has decided she is ready to leave I let her, because the mood is already ruined if you have to debate what she "owes" you and what is "fair" -- and just never call her again.....