Facetime verification & no pictures on provider ads!

Greetings all!

There are two trends that are currently getting more and more widespread that I am finding disturbing and annoyed by. The first one is that more and more providers are wanting to facetime the hobbiests for verification, instead of the safe and good way of providing references. How the hell does facing timing someone vet them in the first place? If they are a UC, they could easily just do the facetime and say whatever they want to say, but if you make them provide qualified references then there's no getting around that really. It puts hobbiests at risk to do any kind of selfies/facetime. Is anybody on here doing facetime with providers??

The second issue is that I'm noticing more and more providers not providing any pictures on their ads whatsoever! That's the only way we can decide if we want to see someone. With no pictures, we have no clue what we are getting into. I mean I skip the ad completely with no pics. Has anyone else noticing this???

ft and provider references are not the intersection of truth, at least for me.
id starve if i waited on a provider reference or be in jail.
ft is not screening imo and provider references is not the way "i" screen!

i care approximately 0% abt those 2 items but thats just me.
gl and hope you find some fun soon.

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Originally Posted by The Water Company ~

ft and provider references are not the intersection of truth, at least for me.
id starve if i waited on a provider reference or be in jail.
ft is not screening imo and provider references is not the way "i" screen!

i care approximately 0% abt those 2 items but thats just me.
gl and hope you find some fun soon.

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Might I ask how you verify new clients?

i don't think there's only one way of doing things and years ago provider refs worked but these days my preference is to exercise my own discretion muscle in doing things my way.
and ft is never gonna be an option for me. thanks for askin'

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Originally Posted by The Water Company ~

i don't think there's only one way of doing things and years ago provider refs worked but these days my preference is to exercise my own discretion muscle in doing things my way.
and ft is never gonna be an option for me. thanks for askin'

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Much thanks for the info you provided. If you were a hobbiest, would you provide FT verification?

There have been some of us ladies who have had trouble uploading pics on this site. Also, some ladies don't post them on every ad because they have them on their profile in an album. I do my best to post them on most of my ads.

I hate it when guys waste my time asking me to FT them. I have never heard of that being a form of verification for gents. It's not something that I would do or rely on.

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Originally Posted by ProfessionalReviewer

If you were a hobbiest, would you provide FT verification?

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'if' doesn't apply.
at the end of the day i am on the provider side of things. i am going to decline answering the question since i am not a hobbiest. apologies

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Originally Posted by The Water Company ~

'if' doesn't apply.
at the end of the day i am on the provider side of things. i am going to decline answering the question since i am not a hobbiest. apologies

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Good answer, TWC. It really bugs me when someone says, "If I had been in that situation, I would have...". BS! One never knows how they would react until they are actually in that situation. And as TWC says, she will never be in that situation.

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Originally Posted by ProfessionalReviewer

Greetings all!

There are two trends that are currently getting more and more widespread that I am finding disturbing and annoyed by. The first one is that more and more providers are wanting to facetime the hobbiests for verification, instead of the safe and good way of providing references. How the hell does facing timing someone vet them in the first place? If they are a UC, they could easily just do the facetime and say whatever they want to say, but if you make them provide qualified references then there's no getting around that really. It puts hobbiests at risk to do any kind of selfies/facetime. Is anybody on here doing facetime with providers??

The second issue is that I'm noticing more and more providers not providing any pictures on their ads whatsoever! That's the only way we can decide if we want to see someone. With no pictures, we have no clue what we are getting into. I mean I skip the ad completely with no pics. Has anyone else noticing this???

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FaceTime is not a verifiable means of screening, period. Would not ask or accept that method myself.
As for photos - I'm a new member here so I can't be certain, but I have read a few threads where ladies are having problems uploading pics.

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Originally Posted by Tatum Maxwell

FaceTime is not a verifiable means of screening, period. Would not ask or accept that method myself.
As for photos - I'm a new member here so I can't be certain, but I have read a few threads where ladies are having problems uploading pics.

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https://www.imagecoast.com/ join to host your photos on your ad just use the BB code .. Well woth it

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FT for screening what a joke .. all they are doing is jurking off lol and as no intell on who it is .
And keep in mind they can record you ..

I would never accept FaceTime ass a verification it tells me nothing about you so no thank you

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Originally Posted by NordicJag

Good answer, TWC. It really bugs me when someone says, "If I had been in that situation, I would have...". BS! One never knows how they would react until they are actually in that situation. And as TWC says, she will never be in that situation.

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If that bugs you, you must be upset most of the time. Because now a days you have to be extremely selective on what things you allow to get your goat, especially with the influx of rude dummies that are coming into adult hood.

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Originally Posted by JessieJane

There have been some of us ladies who have had trouble uploading pics on this site. Also, some ladies don't post them on every ad because they have them on their profile in an album. I do my best to post them on most of my ads.

I hate it when guys waste my time asking me to FT them. I have never heard of that being a form of verification for gents. It's not something that I would do or rely on.

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Well I suppose that could explain it, but the ones I'm referring to don't even have them on their profiles. Some just don't have any pics at all; or if they do, maybe just one or two on their profiles.

I never ask to facetime nor do i want paystubs or id. Ever. I do not ad pics but going to my profile and seeing the pics i have is a simple click away....
I just cannot understand why gents expect to be inside every inch of us, yet wanting to knowing anything about them (for our safety) is bad on our part. TRUST HAS TO GO BOTH WAYS- WE ARE ALL ILLEGAL

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Originally Posted by Chilipepper

I never ask to facetime nor do i want paystubs or id. Ever. I do not ad pics but going to my profile and seeing the pics i have is a simple click away....
I just cannot understand why gents expect to be inside every inch of us, yet wanting to knowing anything about them (for our safety) is bad on our part. TRUST HAS TO GO BOTH WAYS- WE ARE ALL ILLEGAL

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Well put

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Originally Posted by NordicJag

Good answer, TWC. It really bugs me when someone says, "If I had been in that situation, I would have...". BS! One never knows how they would react until they are actually in that situation. And as TWC says, she will never be in that situation.

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exactly and agree! which is why i put the disclaimer out there per se. wish there were more gents w understanding like yourself. thank you NJ!

I also would never FT. I rely on p411. Even with ladies who are not registered there I have sent a screenshot of my 5 most recent Okays and that has worked for me. I also prefer to book with ladies that are on there. Just easier to get the appointment scheduled. But I have heard some ladies say it is not foolproof for them. One told me that she wanted to not OK a client and p411 was pishing her to give the OK anyway. But another lasy told me she was able to get a guy banned there for stalking.

I’ll accept p411 if he has updated ok’s I too have had a stalking situation on there in which he got banned but it works both ways a women can be banned to they’re are not biased.

Agree, current updated references & ok's.
Each provider has different screening methods and whatever makes her comfortable is her decision.
Her Body Her Rules

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Originally Posted by Trillburgers

Im curious who would want to stalk you of all people? KISS. That's my motto in life. Money trumps everything. We have the money so we call the shots. It's a plethora of options out here for a guy with a little coin. Hobbyists set the screening because you are the one with the money. Period. Don't take any shit. I have 4 bad atfs op. If you have any issues in screening just shoot me a dm and I'll try to connect the dots for you and help you out. On all these types of threads it's always the "old ladies" commenting. Like really? Shit gets old. Most ladies with serious business don't be in here and say absolutely nothing. Coed comments by ladies take with no salt. Women out here really making coin in this game never come in coed and that's fact. Your money your rules. Your anonymity is yours to either keep or give away. You choose

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Do NOT quote me with your bull, this is about Face Time as a means to verify which I don’t except!!

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Originally Posted by DORad

I rely on p411. Even with ladies who are not registered there I have sent a screenshot of my 5 most recent Okays and that has worked for me.

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a screenshot does not prove you are a p411 member. if a provider isn't a p411 member how does a p411 screenshot help her to verify you via p411? i suggest you read the small print on the site. if you continue sending screenshots you will be hearing from p411 if reported. gl

....don't shoot the messenger ~

Are ladies really accepting screenshots of a P411 or OH2 account vs verification via a message through the site!?

Well now I see why some guys think my screening is too strict.
I require a message from the actual site not a screenshot , not an account number.

Just when I thought I've heard it all. Lolz

That's a for sure way to end up in a bad situation BCD...accepting screenshots.

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Originally Posted by Italia DiBella

Are ladies really accepting screenshots of a P411 or OH2 account vs verification via a message through the site!?

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yep! almost as if its the norm.
screenshots are LE's favorite, especially when its a text only conversation. MANY guys do the text only communication w/out hearing a voice and many times they are not communicating w an actual female provider. and there are times its been LE on the other end then boom, LE has the screenshot then will text the screenshot to an unsuspecting provider who accepts screenshots for verification. then shes busted bc she never confirmed if the guy was an actual p411 member through the site.
i know this seems bizarre but it happens and has happened.

...ion know bout yall but by default when i hobby i'm making safety choices that benefit me and the client to ensure a good (safe) time and not bs.
ft, texting screenshots in this manner are red flags imo.

Well so sad to hear
That's proof this industry isn't made for just anyone
WOW, no thank you to skipping the VERIFICATION Process and PROPER SCREENING

I charge for everything that isn't me. Facetime is a service. But I will say if I did, I would screenshot. I'm just saying.

Ill do 2 very verified provider references. Today both answered promptly for a guy, rarely happens that easy. I still will try, especially if the appointment is for later.

But it's our body our rules. If someone is keeping on with "let's do it loke this or that" I block. I see trouble already. Not my style. If someone is giving you nonsense about screening, expect them to be difficult in person.

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Originally Posted by The Water Company ~

a screenshot does not prove you are a p411 member. if a provider isn't a p411 member how does a p411 screenshot help her to verify you via p411? i suggest you read the small print on the site. if you continue sending screenshots you will be hearing from p411 if reported. gl

....don't shoot the messenger ~

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LADIES & GENTS
I AM BUMPING THIS AND SOME OF YOU KNOW WHY

Please Stop Accepting SCREENSHOTS as VERIFICATION

If someone claims to be a member from any site, but can't directly message YOU.
Or you accept screenshots...
YOU'RE putting YOURSELF in harms way.:guilotine:

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Originally Posted by DORad

I also would never FT. I rely on p411. Even with ladies who are not registered there I have sent a screenshot of my 5 most recent Okays and that has worked for me. I also prefer to book with ladies that are on there. Just easier to get the appointment scheduled. But I have heard some ladies say it is not foolproof for them. One told me that she wanted to not OK a client and p411 was pishing her to give the OK anyway. But another lasy told me she was able to get a guy banned there for stalking.

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Screen shot not doing it for me at all that is not sreeing . You should be sending a appt request with your p411 ID that how providers screen off p411!

reminder "stop w the screenshots" if you cannot demonstrate cooperating w proper screening, keep it moving

My reasons:

*There are very few providers that I rely on for giving, honest references. To be honest with you, there are some providers that will not reply, or will give a damaging response regarding a reference. Just so that gentleman won?t see anyone else they think that by giving the provider a bad vouch, that will keep him coming back to the one giving the negativity.

*just because someone is a member of P411, does not make them a definite OK. Some of the gentleman that say that they?re verified on that site, or that they have so many okays, when, in reality, they haven?t had an OK, and 2 to 3 years. how do I know that that person hasn?t changed? That site is not as reliable as some gentlemen think it is. Also, some of the okays that the gentleman may have that are recent, some of the providers don?t have active profiles anymore. But the gentleman still want to lean on that and think that it?s OK just just because they have OK or that they are verified.

*Definitely do not accept screenshots because that would be just dumb. How do I know that that screenshot would be directly from the person that I would be communicating with? What if it was LE, and they have a screenshot they?ve collected someway somehow? That?s stupid as well to do.

*If the first thing that a gentleman says when he contacts me is: can I get an appointment? How much for a massage? What all can I get in the time we have? THOSE ARE IMMEDIATE BLOCKS.

*If a guy asks me if he can FT me to ?make sure I?m real? or to ?verify? me, it kind of makes me lol. My immediate reply is, sir, you can easily look at the history of my posts and see that I am a real person. And in my experience, when a guy asks me if he can, FaceTime me just to make sure I?m real, when I have done that in the past stupidly, as soon as I answer the phone, he always has his meat stick in his hand. Like I don?t want to see that shit right now dude. Wait till you get here lol I mean I don?t say that but I?m thinking it.

So for what it?s worth those are just my reasons in my opinions. Hope you all have a fucking fantastic Saturday! May you all bust plenty of nuts, and be thoroughly pleasured and satisfied!!!