For The Love of All That’s Holy…Gossips Are Unattractive!

White knights have been coming to me with gossip about a few things I supposedly did wrong my first week. Frankly, unless it’s constructive criticism I don’t care to hear it. If you come to me with gossip about myself or anyone else (screening for safety concerns is different), I don’t want to hear it! If I made mistakes my first week back, then anyone with an issue should address it with me so that I can make it right asap. I’ve been around many years and have worked my ass off to please and cater to all my hobby friends and boyfriends! I’ve never had a single me negative review dating back to aspd days. I don’t know of many if any can actually say that! Whatever hiccups there may have been my first week, have been ironed out and I’m on top of my game as usual.

I hope everyone has a great day and has a ton of earth shattering orgasms, everyone is safe and having a great time! Life is too short any bs!

...as long as you are willing to accept and respond to constructive criticism ... ok :cheers:

Care to mention who the WK's are of whom you speak...?

A'Man

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Originally Posted by Anandaman

Care to mention who the WK's are of whom you speak...?

A'Man

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It seems like the LR chats aren't as secret as they are supposed to be... because I certainly haven't seen anything posted publicly in reference to her

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Originally Posted by SexySammy

It seems like the LR chats aren't as secret as they are supposed to be... because I certainly haven't seen anything posted publicly in reference to her

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I mean with the amount of mandles being created, especially in this last month, I can admit, I'm truly not surprised. I guess it should be expected though, since not even the Companion's Powder room is 100% safe for us Providers from infiltration or that random leak we seem to endure every once in a while.

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Originally Posted by Deja Tha Doll

I mean with the amount of mandles being created, especially in this last month, I can admit, I'm truly not surprised. I guess it should be expected though, since not even the Companion's Powder room is 100% safe for us Providers from infiltration or that random leak we seem to endure every once in a while.

I guess I can sort of understand the shameless constant self promotion posts from freshly made mandle accounts, with the fake review included. But to be really be responding to other companions as if you're a male/hobbyist and going as far as to post ISOs is a bit much. But that's just my opinion. I just don't see the point of fishing for providers to contact you. Like is it a long con to keep up the appearance and hope noone becomes the wiser? Or is it something more nefarious? All in all, it's wasting providers time who respond to said ISOs. You'd think someone who portrays themselves as being "so busy", would be doing something more productive. Just saying.....

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It’s easy to spot fake reviews and Non-verified mandles for 99% of hobbyists here.

Maybe we should just do a group chat instead with ladies we trust

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Originally Posted by NativeAmerican

It’s easy to spot fake reviews and Non-verified mandles for 99% of hobbyists here.

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Yup. Exactly..... at least be discrete about it.

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Originally Posted by NikkiGhost

Maybe we should just do a group chat instead with ladies we trust

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And that sounds like a great idea

.. if i was a provider ... if this how i earned my living ... i would certainly have a mandle. i would be discreet but ... hey! this is my life, my job, my profession! i'm not going to overlook an important tool, resource.

having said that ... mandles are only part of the story. ladies here have relationships with guys. guys fully understand that anything posted in the locker room is gonna be fair game to get back to the lady who is the subject. sometimes, as i chided nikki .. it's because we want to help a provider improve her performance in a certain area. constructive criticism. all of us tend to appreciate that in all aspects of our lives. how to do something better. how to be better

there are also simps and white knights. no point in pretending it doesn't happen. but such behavior really isn't helpful or even appreciated. that's why folks feel insulted when accused of acting like one ... or being one.

for me, the hobby is for fun. it is not to be taken too seriously. it is a place i can meet wonderful ladies who bring to life my romantic, sexual fantasies ... pretty much the same ones i had in my teens. then i turned to sluts. some folks mocked to took advantage of them. i adored and worshiped the slut. come to think of it ... i still do,

thank you, ladies!! for the important service you provide!! ... for me, anyway

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Originally Posted by dodger

.. if i was a provider ... if this how i earned my living ... i would certainly have a mandle. i would be discreet but ... hey! this is my life, my job, my profession! i'm not going to overlook an important tool, resource.

having said that ... mandles are only part of the story. ladies here have relationships with guys. guys fully understand that anything posted in the locker room is gonna be fair game to get back to the lady who is the subject. sometimes, as i chided nikki .. it's because we want to help a provider improve her performance in a certain area. constructive criticism. all of us tend to appreciate that in all aspects of our lives. how to do something better. how to be better

there are also simps and white knights. no point in pretending it doesn't happen. but such behavior really isn't helpful or even appreciated. that's why folks feel insulted when accused of acting like one ... or being one.

for me, the hobby is for fun. it is not to be taken too seriously. it is a place i can meet wonderful ladies who bring to life my romantic, sexual fantasies ... pretty much the same ones i had in my teens. then i turned to sluts. some folks mocked to took advantage of them. i adored and worshiped the slut. come to think of it ... i still do,

thank you, ladies!! for the important service you provide!! ... for me, anyway

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Yes but unfortunately it's also against the rules and I earned myself a 30day ban for information shared from the LR back in the eccie days for not giving up the hobbyist who shared said information. But let's also face it, most ladies on here don't want a man telling them how to do their job or how to run their business and they do get offended. A lot of them dont want or care to see things from yalls side of the table because of all the times they've been wronged or talked down to by other hobbyists who left a lot of important information out when they're in there bashing provider recommendations when theyve never even seen the person. Me personally, I don't care what's said about me in private because there's a reason they're saying it behind my back and not to my face and it says more about them, than myself and people are going to gossip.

But you are definitely right about this supposed to be something fun. I can also guarantee that the men gossip worse than the women do on here and that the LR look completely different from each other. This is also because a lot of the time, people like to point out others flaws but don't see their own. It's like HS all over again on here at times lol and I must admit that sometimes I do get a kick out of "poking the bears" on here just like everyone else but it's all in good fun.

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Originally Posted by dodger

.. if i was a provider ... if this how i earned my living ... i would certainly have a mandle. i would be discreet but ... hey! this is my life, my job, my profession! i'm not going to overlook an important tool, resource.

having said that ... mandles are only part of the story. ladies here have relationships with guys. guys fully understand that anything posted in the locker room is gonna be fair game to get back to the lady who is the subject. sometimes, as i chided nikki .. it's because we want to help a provider improve her performance in a certain area. constructive criticism. all of us tend to appreciate that in all aspects of our lives. how to do something better. how to be better

there are also simps and white knights. no point in pretending it doesn't happen. but such behavior really isn't helpful or even appreciated. that's why folks feel insulted when accused of acting like one ... or being one.

for me, the hobby is for fun. it is not to be taken too seriously. it is a place i can meet wonderful ladies who bring to life my romantic, sexual fantasies ... pretty much the same ones i had in my teens. then i turned to sluts. some folks mocked to took advantage of them. i adored and worshiped the slut. come to think of it ... i still do,

thank you, ladies!! for the important service you provide!! ... for me, anyway

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Well said sir. :twothumbs:

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Originally Posted by SexySammy

Yes but unfortunately it's also against the rules and I earned myself a 30day ban for information shared from the LR back in the eccie days for not giving up the hobbyist who shared said information. But let's also face it, most ladies on here don't want a man telling them how to do their job or how to run their business and they do get offended. A lot of them dont want or care to see things from yalls side of the table because of all the times they've been wronged or talked down to by other hobbyists who left a lot of important information out when they're in there bashing provider recommendations when theyve never even seen the person. Me personally, I don't care what's said about me in private because there's a reason they're saying it behind my back and not to my face and it says more about them, than myself and people are going to gossip.

But you are definitely right about this supposed to be something fun. I can also guarantee that the men gossip worse than the women do on here and that the LR look completely different from each other. This is also because a lot of the time, people like to point out others flaws but don't see their own. It's like HS all over again on here at times lol and I must admit that sometimes I do get a kick out of "poking the bears" on here just like everyone else but it's all in good fun.

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100% This is also because a lot of the time, people like to point out others flaws but don't see their own. It's like HS all over again on here at times

So now the hobbyists are on board with mandles and profiles pretending to portray one thing, while being another?!

If that's the case, keep that same energy when it happens to you.
If you reach out to what you think is a provider and it's a catfish, or an older picture of her from 10 years ago/60lbs ago, remember to give her props for being smart and still being able to obtain business at her current weight and age in her career. Or let's say it's straight up another female all together and not even the chick in the photos on her profile, don't get mad, just give her props on that finesse. Or let's say it's a male/manger/pimp contacting you under the guise of being a provider, which happens as well, once again don't get upset, just give the guy his props for actually putting in work instead of making the female do all the work, while he collects all the funds and does nothing. And worst case scenario its a set up or LE behind the profile pretending to be a provider. Don't get upset when you get caught up. Give LE props for managing to slip under the radar undetected, right?!

Noo, because NOONE likes being deceived, scammed, or played with. It's just not ok in any sense to get on the boards intentionally lying and trying to decieve others. That goes for any and everybody, males and females.

I'm sure 99%, if not 100%, of the people commenting on this thread know who and what we're talking about. Hence the comments and the stance being taken on them. This isn't a post that's being directed at them as an individual but moreso at that individual's specific actions. Since WE'RE ALL talking about "constructive criticism".

Like I said before though, I can understand why a provider might want to make a mandle. And I totally get her wanting to be able to self-promote in an attempt to drum up business. What I'm not ok with, is a provider using a mandle to reach out to other providers and post ISOs, knowing that ultimately they are going to get providers that respond, because that's what the ISOs are intended for. It's just devious and deceitful and I don't like being played with or lied to, nor do I like having my time wasted. Like I'm sure NOONE else does or appreciates.

Create all the mandles you want. Since its clear that the hobbyist are ok with it, feel free to infiltrate the LR and do all the research and digging, and self-promotion you please, as well as starting all the thre-ADs you want. All that I'm asking is that you do not deceive your fellow providers, whether it be in an ISO, or reaching out to them in posts and responding as a hobbyist, when you are not one. That's just excessive and uncalled for. Perhaps try being more "discrete" as dodger implied, when it comes to actually making a posting history for your mandles. Just leave the rest of us providers out of the shenanigans and out of all of your undercover research, ya feel me???? That's all that I'm asking.

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Originally Posted by Deja Tha Doll

Create all the mandles you want. Since its clear that the hobbyist are ok with it

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you had a point to make. too bad you cluttered up with this silliness

I also totally agree with SexySammy when she said "Me personally, I don't care what's said about me in private because there's a reason they're saying it behind my back and not to my face and it says more about them, than myself and people are going to gossip."

So if you're ever faced with "gossip" from hobbyists, whether it be in person or online, just remind yourself it's easier to embrace this type of mindset rather than to continously keep on worrying yourself about what's being said about you in the LR and behind the scenes. Remember though, when you go searching for opinions on yourself, you may not always like what you find and the responses you get. Sometimes its better to leave and let be and just save yourself the trouble and heartache.

Hence another issue that can arise when you create mandles or care about what the men are saying in private.

I also don't really GAF about any WKs attacking in me in this thread either. I made my point whether anyone likes it or not.

EXACTLY. And maybe some of us wouldn't be so upset if it didn't seem that there's some favoritism going on and had anyone else pulled something similar, consequences would have been had, ijs.

But I'm going to leave this be now because what's needed to said and addressed, has been.

And just a small reminder to check your "inner circle" that you promoted for because a lot of folks in here like to play both sides and leave their part out of it and I'm not kidding when I said, it's like HS all over again. Gossip is and will always happen and spread in here like wildfire.

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Originally Posted by Deja Tha Doll

Like I said before though, I can understand why a provider might want to make a mandle. And I totally get her wanting to be able to self-promote in an attempt to drum up business. What I'm not ok with, is a provider using a mandle to reach out to other providers and post ISOs, knowing that ultimately they are going to get providers that respond, because that's what the ISOs are intended for. It's just devious and deceitful and I don't like being played with or lied to, nor do I like having my time wasted. Like I'm sure NOONE else does or appreciates.

Create all the mandles you want. Since its clear that the hobbyist are ok with it, feel free to infiltrate the LR and do all the research and digging, and self-promotion you please, as well as starting all the thre-ADs you want. All that I'm asking is that you do not deceive your fellow providers, whether it be in an ISO, or reaching out to them in posts and responding as a hobbyist, when you are not one. That's just excessive and uncalled for. Perhaps try being more "discrete" as dodger implied, when it comes to actually making a posting history for your mandles. Just leave the rest of us providers out of the shenanigans and out of all of your undercover research, ya feel me???? That's all that I'm asking.

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Why are you so concerned about the legitimacy of Hobbyist ISOs? Are you genuinely trying to set up sessions with the many ISO’s you reply to? I seriously doubt it…

I'm sure none of the providers will be hurt when I say, in the locker room, that any provider charging 300 for 30 min or 350+ for an hour is absolutely retarded. Or that dudes that spend that much deserve the shitty service they consistently receive from you overpriced slags, "allegedly" :eyebrows:

But yea, Eccie had pretty good enforcement. I think anyone who spills the beans of any private forum in a public forum or in another private forum, should get a warning or a little vacation.
I also think that if anyone contacts some one they saw over something that was posted in a private forum, they should get banned.

If I saw you and called you an anorexic overpriced silicone sack with some stank puss, in the men's forum, (and you hear about it) do not contact me, that should get you banned.
If you report some dude you saw for having dick cheese and a weird rash or fake currency, in the ladies forum, (and they hear about it) they should not contact you, that should get them banned.
Maybe OH2 needs more mods.

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Why are you so concerned about the legitimacy of Hobbyist ISOs? Are you genuinely trying to set up sessions with the many ISO’s you reply to? I seriously doubt it…

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No no you misinterpreted. We are concerned and upset at these mandles posting fake ISOs, even reaching out to providers, wasting our time and money, just so they can make an attempt at looking legit. And yes when women reach out and respond to ISOs, not always publicly, sometimes I will just PM the guy and not make a public comment, it is also just wasting our time and money. All in an attempt to cover their tracks and its honestly worse than any hobbyist doing so because we as women should have each other's back.

But everything that needed addressing has been. Beating a dead horse at this point because apparently it no longer matters if we make mandles.

Sheesh, did someone have a long night at the bar and then decide to unwind in the comment section of this thread while venting their frustrations? (Perhaps next time chose sleep instead. It may turn out to be the better decision. You know what they say about those people who stay up for extended periods of time, and how not getting an adequate amount of sleep affects their thinking) :wink:

Anywho, Sorry that you cant afford what it is that you really seem to want/need on the board, but that's no reason to be hateful nor spiteful.

And btw, I'm low volume luv. I barely respond to ISOs. But as I said before, the other night, I made the mistake of responding to a mandle's ISO. I only realized it after I reached out to pm this individual. Shortly afterwards, I went to their profile, seen how new it was, (just days old), and then I looked through their posting history and put it all together. This is the second one that I seen created for this certain individual this month. There may be more but tbh I could care less. I was just irritated that I responded to a companion pretending to be a hobbyist in the first place. Had me feeling like DJ Kahlid for a second, like "Another one"?!? Sheesh...but then I started wondering why is this provider really writing ISOs knowing other providers are going to be responding......? Sketch AF tbh.....

Anywho, I just prefer not to be baited NOR DRUG INTO SUCH SHENANIGANS. Like I've ALREADY stated before......
...But it seems as if "some people" just can't help themselves.

And since some people have some much free time to bash me and act like I'm suppose to be cool with being baited, feel free to reread my last few posts on this thread, and do your own research, should you want to put the pieces together yourself.

The 1st mandle in question was created 9/13 and their review was posted the next day.
The second mandle was created 9/24 and the ISO they wrote, was placed in the ISO section the next day as well.
All the posts written by this individual after joining, quite obviously point to the provider.

It is what it is. Time is money. And I don't get paid enough for this shit. Yall have a great rest of yalls day. - xoxo

Deja, you derailed this thread initially. Secondly, lol that was entertaining. Um, ok? Congrats to you.

OP, I with you regarding “shit happens”, just move past the speed bump and people will forget!

I've been contacted by several providers using mandles over the last 4 years. So I make a staunch rule if you are not a fully vetted member, not going to see you. If you're calling me from a VoIP number not going to see you. If your email is not over 6 months old not going to see you.
I have done numerous research on the ladies who have created fake men accounts and agree that it has to be favoritism because you can complain to the mods till you're blue in the face but they're not willing to do anything about it even when they're given undisputable proof. So they must enjoy the drama. I don't know why it's not like they get paid for all these threads where we're arguing and bickering. It just makes the hobby horrible for everybody. And Mr Native American until you start selling your ass to survive don't criticize these ladies don't you dare! it is really hard to keep your head above water when you've got ladies, who should want to make our community stronger, but choose to make it worse, fucking you over because on their own, without all the subterfuge and self promotion, they are piles of shit in pretty packages with wild wolf cock smelling twats who just take more than theyll ever give and what they do offer is trash.

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Originally Posted by Deja Tha Doll

It is what it is. Time is money. And I don't get paid enough for this shit. Yall have a great rest of yalls day. - xoxo

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Thank you for your investigative work.

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Originally Posted by dodger

...as long as you are willing to accept and respond to constructive criticism ... ok :cheers:

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I’m always open for constructive criticism and suggestions. Love you in the most hobby appropriate way, Dodger!

A negative Nancy that likes to gossip. Lol.

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Originally Posted by Nikki Famme

Love you in the most hobby appropriate way, Dodger!

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i sometimes think hobby love is the best kind!

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Originally Posted by dodger

i sometimes think hobby love is the best kind!

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Hobby friends make the very best Friends (with Benefits).