Any thoughts on the 2020 C8 Corvette?

Elkhart Lake Blue

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Torch Red

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I love the lines and the cost ($70,000-$75,000 for a nicely loaded Z51) really isn't bad when things are calculated in. A lot of R and D went into this mid-engine car. I wouldn't even consider a first year car where the engine went from the front to the mid area of the car. This car will probably be in the area of 2.8-2.9 zero to 60. There are a lot of gremlins that could come up. Still in all, it's one hell of a car and a lot of bang for the buck.

I lean toward the blue one, however I would have totally black rims and black lug nuts.

I like the blue. However, you said it yourself, first year cars are notoriously full of bugs. You may want to consider waiting until next year or keep holding out for discounts on the 2020 because of current economic issues. I believe, based upon economic history, shutting down of the economy is going to have long term negative impact. The return of inflation being a huge concern.

I remember Nixon, Ford and Carter all struggling with inflation throughout the 1970’s.

They look incredible and the performance for the money is insane.

Ya I'm gonna roll a deposit for it.

I hate two door cars, but this one is essentially a poor man's Ferrari. I'm gonna put a deposit for the 2021 one but can imagine lots of deposits pushing back for 2020.

I'm going with red.

I'm holding out to see when the Z06 comes out and to see what the performance of it will be. I will have one hell of an internal conflict between the red and blue. I had a laguna blue 2016 z06 and it was a beautiful car.

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Originally Posted by DEAR _JOHN

I'm holding out to see when the Z06 comes out and to see what the performance of it will be.

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Good call. Do you know when it is due to be out?

As for color, get the blue...then wrap it in a different color to suit your mood. You can then go back to blue anytime you want. ;)

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Good call. Do you know when it is due to be out?

As for color, get the blue...then wrap it in a different color to suit your mood. You can then go back to blue anytime you want. ;)

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There's nothing out yet on the Z06, but just people taking a guess.

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Originally Posted by DEAR _JOHN

Elkhart Lake Blue

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Elkhart? As in Elkhart Indiana? What is blue in THAT hellhole? No lakes, and certainly no democrats!!!!

I grew up in Motown. We wouldn't name shit after Hoosiers.

I guess the game has changed...

I hope it's OK to bump an old thread on this forum.

Due to two knee surgeries and this china virus, I haven't been out of the house much. Plus it was really hard to find a dealership within easy driving distance to check one out. The dealerships just didn't have any in stock, plus the ones they had were already sold so nobody could sit in one.

Being 6'1" and 280, my main concern is would I be able to comfortably get in and out of the car without 'shoehorning' myself in and out. Actually this C8 felt a bit roomier than my C7.

I finally found one on the showroom floor at a local dealer and drove on over. Luckily they let me get in the car and check things out. Sadly for them, they were asking $20,000 over, plus it was a very base model without any bells and whistles.

Next up is to find a place I can get a test drive, and if I like it, will play the waiting game until the prices are MSRP or maybe lower then MSRP, but this won't be any time soon. I will also play the same waiting game for all the gremlins to disappear that always show up on new model cars.

Analysis..............beautiful car, great lines, mid-engine car at normal Corvette pricing from factory. Still a couple of gremlins, one being the frunk (front trunk where the engine would normally be) coming open when car is being driven, and there is something with the valve guides, but that's about all at this time.

They'll come down soon. The county will face restrictions soon, q4 sales targets, etc., anything unsold that catches a fair bid will get POW POW hit. So don't worry about that. If conditions get worse between now and mid Dec on the china virus, re approach them and bid sub. They say no, say okay bring this into Q1 then. I bot a low 6 figure MSRP 2019 new car during this year's May slight reopening for very little relative to that. 1/3 the price.

You have got to go with the red DJ.....you know that

Go with your gut Bro.

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I'm holding out to see when the Z06 comes out and to see what the performance of it will be. I will have one hell of an internal conflict between the red and blue. I had a laguna blue 2016 z06 and it was a beautiful car.

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DJ, I just picked up a C7 a few weeks ago as my weekender (and maybe 1 day/week if the weather cooperates). My Vette guy at the local dealer told me '23 for the Z06 and '25 for the ZR1, which is projected to displace 1000HP. He said the ZR1 will be known as "Zora" if I'm remembering it correctly. He told me that none of this was carved in stone, but since his office is located in the Corvette building apart from the actual dealer and every single item in his office has something to do with Vettes, I'd say he knows as much as anyone else. He visits Bowling Green, KY a few times a year as well as the Ron Fellows performance driving school in Las Vegas, NV at least annually. Makes me jealous AF.

Not sure what to recommend as far as color. Blue definitely speaks to me more than the red, but it's your decision. When I was deciding on a color several months back, red just seemed to scream "mid-life crisis!", but I worked myself through that, although I chose a different color. Seeing the C8 up close, I have to say they are indeed impressive. The dimensions are radically different from the C7. Personally speaking, though, I get the chills whenever I encounter a 1 or 2 year old ZR1 or Z06 - more so than the C8.

The only gremlin I'm familiar with on the C8 is its understeer, but I've never test-driven one.

Curious why you got rid of the Z06.

MCL

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Curious why you got rid of the Z06.

MCL

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2019 Hellcat Red Eye. With pulley, tune, demon springs, and drag radials............in perfect track and weather conditions is a 9.92 second car in the quarter. I've backed up the 9.92 with several other 9.9x runs, but can't get into the 9.8's. Still that's fast as hell for a car with air conditioning, nice radio, and other creature comforts. I never do weight delete and the car isn't a ragged out POS.

Oh, after seeing the red, the blue gets the nod.

Who is your go to guy for your Vette information? I made it by Corvette World today and saw around 5 C8's. Only 2 were Z51's, and most were marked up around 10K.

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2019 Hellcat Red Eye. With pulley, tune, demon springs, and drag radials............in perfect track and weather conditions is a 9.92 second car in the quarter. I've backed up the 9.92 with several other 9.9x runs, but can't get into the 9.8's. Still that's fast as hell for a car with air conditioning, nice radio, and other creature comforts. I never do weight delete and the car isn't a ragged out POS.

Oh, after seeing the red, the blue gets the nod.

Who is your go to guy for your Vette information? I made it by Corvette World today and saw around 5 C8's. Only 2 were Z51's, and most were marked up around 10K.

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Sent you a PM w/contact info and name.

Hellcat is a serious machine. No insurance issues w/something that raw and powerful?

Hard to tell when the premium price for C8s will abate. When I picked up my C7 a few weeks ago, the buyer of a new red C8 climbed into it with an obvious look of satisfaction. My guy told me it was ordered 14 months ago. I know the 6-week shutdown at the Bowling Green plant really set production behind, but 14 months would seem like an eternity.

Some of the color schemes for the C8s are interesting. I usually cannot stand yellow, but with the C8, it's a beaute. Sebring orange is incredible. Zeus bronze is the rarest, but I did catch one there just prior to delivery. I'd like to see the Bowling Green Metallic come back.

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Sent you a PM w/contact info and name.

Hellcat is a serious machine. No insurance issues w/something that raw and powerful?

Hard to tell when the premium price for C8s will abate. When I picked up my C7 a few weeks ago, the buyer of a new red C8 climbed into it with an obvious look of satisfaction. My guy told me it was ordered 14 months ago. I know the 6-week shutdown at the Bowling Green plant really set production behind, but 14 months would seem like an eternity.

Some of the color schemes for the C8s are interesting. I usually cannot stand yellow, but with the C8, it's a beaute. Sebring orange is incredible. Zeus bronze is the rarest, but I did catch one there just prior to delivery. I'd like to see the Bowling Green Metallic come back.

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Got in line for a C8 Z06. I'm probably looking at a 3 year wait and I'm anxiously awaiting some publicity and test drives from the car rags. I know they're running some 'mules' in Michigan, maybe working out the gremlins that are sure to show up. It's not even official yet what engine they will put in it, rumors about a twin turbo setup are abound.

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Got in line for a C8 Z06. I'm probably looking at a 3 year wait and I'm anxiously awaiting some publicity and test drives from the car rags. I know they're running some 'mules' in Michigan, maybe working out the gremlins that are sure to show up. It's not even official yet what engine they will put in it, rumors about a twin turbo setup are abound.

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Congrats! I'm hearing 2-3 years. It's anybody's guess with so much up in the air. I keep seeing references to an 8500-9000 rpm redline. The ZR1 (Zora) with 1,000 HP is purported to be "very expensive." So much so that the so called insiders aren't even speculating on a specific price range.

I take it you'll be trading in the Hellcat?

2021s are already in production. Don't expect prices to come down anytime soon. Best bet is to find a dealer out in the sticks with an allocation and and pay as little over sticker as possible and wait your turn. Getting one now is going to cost you big time.

Doug

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Congrats! I'm hearing 2-3 years. It's anybody's guess with so much up in the air. I keep seeing references to an 8500-9000 rpm redline. The ZR1 (Zora) with 1,000 HP is purported to be "very expensive." So much so that the so called insiders aren't even speculating on a specific price range.

I take it you'll be trading in the Hellcat?

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I'm guessing around 90-100K for the Z06, but right now it's all just a guess. As far as the Hellcat goes, I will try to sell it outright. There's several Facebook pages dedicated to Hellcats and Demons and there's always someone looking for one of those cars. So I will try that first. Unfortunately I can't trade the Hellcat to a dealer in New Hampshire or Maryland, so I just have to hope for the best.

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2021s are already in production. Don't expect prices to come down anytime soon. Best bet is to find a dealer out in the sticks with an allocation and and pay as little over sticker as possible and wait your turn. Getting one now is going to cost you big time.

Doug

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I'm staying with one of the big 3 dealers (Kerbeck, MacMulkin, and Criswell) all with great reputations and all that sell for MSRP. Plus they all get 800 or so allocations every year. I've read too many horror stories of small dealerships agreeing to MSRP, then when the car gets in (knowing that they only get 5 allocations a year) they all of a sudden jack up the price. The price to haul the car in an enclosed trailer from the east course is around 700-900 bucks.

Here is a horror story I just read about on Facebook

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Earlier this year (after agreeing on MSRP) that dealership sold to another Chevrolet dealer that owns multiple locations across the US. The new management never reached out to me about my car. I took it upon myself to meet the new manager two weeks ago and follow up on my order and the agreement for my car, only to find out that he was insistent on placing a $10,000 market adjustment on my vehicle.

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Yes, even though MSRP is a good profit for the dealership, it will literally be years before you can find a new Vette for under MSRP. Right now at most places, it's between 10-20K over MSRP. Something I will never do.

DJ....you may want to consider doing a Museum Delivery on your Vette.
You watch it come down the assembly line and be built. You are the first to set in it and start it up and drive it forward for about 40 feet.
I enjoyed the experience on my last Z06

It may also help you tie down the price because the dealer never sees the car.

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DJ....you may want to consider doing a Museum Delivery on your Vette.
You watch it come down the assembly line and be built. You are the first to set in it and start it up and drive it forward for about 40 feet.
I enjoyed the experience on my last Z06

It may also help you tie down the price because the dealer never sees the car.

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I thought about that. One way ticket to Nashville, have an employee from the NCM pick me up at the airport and make the one hour drive to Bowling Green. Take delivery and drive around 250 miles to one of the many casinos just south of Memphis and spend the night there. Then the long drive either to the house in the Houston area, or hang out one night at Sam's Town in Shreveport, then go home. If I were 10 years younger, it would be a thought, but as of this time, I will have them drive the car from the selling dealership in a covered carrier to my dealer who's doing a courtesy delivery.

Good discussion, that Z06 should be awesome - I haven't been following them all that close but I did catch a video talking about the mules running around Detroit, but also that the flat crank motors were being used at Daytona earlier in the year which was the tip-off that they would go into production. The C8 is a bitch'n ride. I think the C7 will continue to hold its own.

I went ahead and ordered a 3lt z51 from a large dealership located on the east coast. Since they're in the top 3 Corvette dealers I got the car for a little less than MSRP less some of the fees. It should look similar to this. Attachment 719520

Going to be a VERY nice ride my friend. They give you an estimated time for delivery? I want a ride.

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Going to be a VERY nice ride my friend. They give you an estimated time for delivery? I want a ride.

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Probably late summer. I wonder if my ole buddy Max Rax will put on some deep cleavage tops and do some posing for me. That would be cool, but with my luck my sig other will see a picture and bobbitize me.

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Probably late summer. I wonder if my ole buddy Max Rax will put on some deep cleavage tops and do some posing for me. That would be cool, but with my luck my sig other will see a picture and bobbitize me.

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Congrats, DJ! Will this be a 2021, then? I've been pouring through Youtube videos since getting my recent C7. What I didn't realize was how many C8s are already getting upgrades. Hennessey twin-turbo upgrades, specifically. Street Speed 717 with his C8 LMR twin-turbo upgrade seems to be the one to follow.

I'm sure Max Rax will consider posing as time well spent.:cheers: That C8 is going to be a cleavage magnet for you.

MCL

The Corvette Forum https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/ is the best source of accurate info on the C8. Many GM engineers and design people respond on there. My current car is a C7 Z51 7M Roadster with the 3LT interior I and still own a '75 L48 4 speed two top roadster with 29k on the clock.

Doug

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The Corvette Forum https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/ is the best source of accurate info on the C8. Many GM engineers and design people respond on there. My current car is a C7 Z51 7M Roadster with the 3LT interior I and still own a '75 L48 4 speed two top roadster with 29k on the clock.

Doug

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I've been on corvetteforum since my first Vette in 2009 and visit there 3-4 times a day, but in the C8 forums only.

The forum has led me to know how simple it is to order from the east coast and have it delivered here by covered trailer, and found a local dealership here that does courtesy deliveries. I've read many horror stories about dealers getting in a car ordered at msrp and jacking up the price when the customer was ready to take delivery. Then I read stories about people shopping all over the USA only to find out that nobody had any allocations. So I just bit the bullet and ordered from a dealership on the east coast. I trust Classic in Sugarland, but they don't have any allocations at this time.

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I went ahead and ordered a 3lt z51 from a large dealership located on the east coast. Since they're in the top 3 Corvette dealers I got the car for a little less than MSRP less some of the fees. It should look similar to this. Attachment 719520

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Dude! That is awesome. I saw one in person the other day...I had stop and just gawk at it.

Do you still have your WIN button? Whip inflation now. Ford was a klutz in more ways than one. lol

Merry xmas

My new baby girl is nice and safe out in the garage. Just brought her home this week.

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My new baby girl is nice and safe out in the garage. Just brought her home this week.

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Smooth delivery w/no issues, then?

I take it you were able to unload the hellcat? Probably at a much higher price than when this thread was started, I would imagine.

MCL

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Smooth delivery w/no issues, then?

I take it you were able to unload the hellcat? Probably at a much higher price than when this thread was started, I would imagine.

MCL

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No issues at all. The man at the out of state dealership walked me through everything and all I had to do is get insurance and the car was inspected by the courtesy dealer out here in town. Then take the paperwork to the local tax office along with a check for the taxes. All the courtesy dealer did was prep the car, put on some dealer installs and collect their $500 check. Actually I got rid of the Hellcat a couple of months too soon, because nobody really saw the lack of new or used vehicles on the market.

I have a 2021 2Lt c8 fully loaded with z51/front lift/mag ride etc. I’ve had it since July and have put 2200 miles on it. I couldn’t be happier with the purchase. I know this post is a little late but how are you enjoying it?

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I have a 2021 2Lt c8 fully loaded with z51/front lift/mag ride etc. I’ve had it since July and have put 2200 miles on it. I couldn’t be happier with the purchase. I know this post is a little late but how are you enjoying it?

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It's doing fine. Due to the chinese virus, she's just been sitting there and not on the road very much. I don't even have 500 miles on her yet, maybe one day I can take her for a quick run to Lake Charles to shoot some craps.

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It's doing fine. Due to the chinese virus, she's just been sitting there and not on the road very much. I don't even have 500 miles on her yet, maybe one day I can take her for a quick run to Lake Charles to shoot some craps.

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Or, meet me for a bucket of wings and an ice cold beer ??? :-)

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Or, meet me for a bucket of wings and an ice cold beer ??? :-)

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Sounds great after this batch of covid has passed. I need to get out for awhile and this would be a perfect time.