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No googling....really...don't cheat!!! :blink:
Who do you think the top 5 are and in which order?
I'll give you one clue: The Dallas Cowboys are in there.
Now tell me where...and who (and where) the other 4 belong.
An extra point if you want to try and estimate the value of the team (not annual revenue, just the value)
DON'T CHEAT!!!! :huh:
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New York Yankees
Manchester United
are 2 that immediately come to mind; other possibility Redskins, no guess on a 5th.
In order I would guess
Manchester United
Dallas Cowboys
NY Yankees
Washington Redskins
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (discreetgent @ Mar 26 2009, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Los Angeles Lakers have to be on that list.Quote:
New York Yankees
Manchester United
are 2 that immediately come to mind; other possibility Redskins, no guess on a 5th.
In order I would guess
Manchester United
Dallas Cowboys
NY Yankees
Washington Redskins[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pjorourke @ Mar 26 2009, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Nope. They don't even make the top ten.Quote:
Los Angeles Lakers have to be on that list.[/b]
DG...impressive!
all four correct. Your top 2 are in the correct order. ;)
Guess one more and the order of the last 3.....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camille @ Mar 26 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods has got to be up there too, aren't they considered fanchises with all their endorsements. ;)Quote:
Nope. They don't even make the top ten.
DG...impressive!
all four correct. Your top 2 are in the correct order. ;)
Guess one more and the order of the last 3.....[/b]
Part of this is a function of when/what list you are citing, but how about the NY Giants? (no, not the baseball team WTF, PJ, RK, DG, etc. followed as lads, but the football team)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camille @ Mar 26 2009, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Must be one of the international soccer teams. Isn't there a big one in Spain? (I dont follow soccer at all)Quote:
Guess one more and the order of the last 3.....[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pjorourke @ Mar 26 2009, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>I think Manchester United is a soccer team.Quote:
Must be one of the international soccer teams. (I dont follow soccer at all)[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pjorourke @ Mar 26 2009, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Real Madrid....Quote:
Must be one of the international soccer teams. Isn't there a big one in Spain? (I dont follow soccer at all)[/b]
I still go with the NYG.
I lot of this has to do with the "when" here -- currency swings alone have been huge $/Euro over the last year
Since Chesapeake Energy pays for everything totally out of hand or control, so with that data, it would not astonish me that did the same with the buying of the former Seattle Super Sonics...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (atlcomedy @ Mar 26 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>:lol:Quote:
how about the NY Giants? (no, not the baseball team WTF, PJ, RK, DG, etc. followed as lads, but the football team)[/b]
The missing 5th is the Patriots!!!
Per Forbes (Jan 2009) the most valuable sports franchise in the World is :
Man Utd @$1.8 bn...followed by:
Cowboys @$1.6
Redskins @ $1.5
Pats @ $1.32
Yankees @ $1.3
Real Madrid @ $1.29
Arsenal @ $1.2
Giants @ $1.18
Jets @$1.17
Texans @$1.17
In 2002 (per Forbes) no pro-sports team was breaking the billion dollar mark. By 2008 24 teams were over that line.
Also, am I correct in thinking the Houston Texans are quite a new team? If so, that's some damn good branding they have there!
C
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (atlcomedy @ Mar 26 2009, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>You two work well together and yes ATL...you were right about the Giants;)Quote:
Real Madrid....
I still go with the NYG.
I lot of this has to do with the "when" here -- currency swings alone have been huge $/Euro over the last year[/b]
Thanks Camille, for an interesting and enjoyable post!!! Kudos girl! ;)
Camille are you going to go back to Boston with a Texas drawl? :D
Thanks Camille, its oblivious that I am no sports junkie...
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Camille are you going to go back to Boston with a Texas drawl? biggrin.gif[/b]
No more "you guys" its now "yall"
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ansley Ayers @ Mar 26 2009, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Been too darn busy dodging the rattlesnakes and those things y'all in Atlanta call chiggers (nail polish at the ready!) to pick up the accent :blink:Quote:
Camille are you going to go back to Boston with a Texas drawl? :D[/b]
Maxx...thank you kind sir :-)
Woody...I'm sure you are a fountain of information on other fun topics;)
My god...the sun has FINALLY come out!!! :lol:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camille @ Mar 26 2009, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Will somebody please take this girl out to the hill country so she will know what she is talking about. :D :lol:Quote:
Been too darn busy dodging the rattlesnakes and those things y'all in Atlanta call chiggers (nail polish at the ready!) to pick up the accent :blink:[/b]
Doubt I would have gotten the Patriots; my next guesses would have been NYG or Arsenal or Real Madrid
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (discreetgent @ Mar 26 2009, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>They would have been pretty good estimates either way DG ;)Quote:
Doubt I would have gotten the Patriots; my next guesses would have been NYG or Arsenal or Real Madrid[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camille @ Mar 26 2009, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>They must have been in the planter at the mall. I think she is leaving just in time to miss the no-see-'em infestation. :DQuote:
Been too darn busy dodging the rattlesnakes and those things y'all in Atlanta call chiggers (nail polish at the ready!) to pick up the accent :blink:[/b]
And Camille, yes the Texans are a fairly new team. But when the NFL awarded the franchise...the cost to the new owner was $500 million. And once he paid that he just had a piece of paper. No team yet...no coach...no stadium deal...no facilities...no nothing. Just a piece of paper that said he had the franchise. So, he may be doing all right with his investment...but he has a pretty penny in it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rudyard K @ Mar 27 2009, 01:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Quote:
They must have been in the planter at the mall. I think she is leaving just in time to miss the no-see-'em infestation. :D
And Camille, yes the Texans are a fairly new team. But when the NFL awarded the franchise...the cost to the new owner was $500 million. And once he paid that he just had a piece of paper. No team yet...no coach...no stadium deal...no facilities...no nothing. Just a piece of paper that said he had the franchise. So, he may be doing all right with his investment...but he has a pretty penny in it.[/b]
I think it was 700 mil but who's counting. lol Now he may have just had a piece of paper but his revenue streams for that piece of paper were/are sizeable. I'm not commenting on the good or bad of the public policy of the county's investment in the venture. I'm just saying it is similiar to what is refered in the news now-a-days as a stimulis package.....
George Steinbrenner paid around $10 million for the Yankees. Not bad, not bad at all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (discreetgent @ Mar 27 2009, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Well the difference is all the money the City of NY has had to pump into the team in the form of stadium subsidies and cable franchises.Quote:
George Steinbrenner paid around $10 million for the Yankees. Not bad, not bad at all.[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pjorourke @ Mar 27 2009, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>In general I am not supportive of taxpayer funded stadiums.Quote:
Well the difference is all the money the City of NY has had to pump into the team in the form of stadium subsidies and cable franchises.[/b]
That said I give these leagues (and owners) a lot of credit for carefully managing supply (of fanchises) so they are worth something. No one is putting a city or county to build these stadiums.
Also contrast the affection fans/customers have for their team with the discussion of airlines (in another thread) and the way their customers feel about them.
I loathe the Yankees, but getting them back to the WS wins in 77-78, playoff contenders for parts of the 80s and then of course WS 4 of 5 years hasn't hurt. I think the cable network was a self-venture, not sure (I could be wrong) NYC was involved at all - though NYC did mediate with TimeWarner and Cablevision when YES went on the air.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rudyard K @ Mar 27 2009, 01:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Yes those planters are lethal RK :huh:Quote:
They must have been in the planter at the mall. I think she is leaving just in time to miss the no-see-'em infestation. :D[/b]
Rattlesnakes in one, a gator chasing a dog in another and an infestation of no-see-ums. Who'd a thunk it?
Not sure which name I like more...chiggers or no-see-ums lol.
We are boring in MA...we just get mozzies.
On the upside it's actually warm(ish) and sunny here today...after arriving back to 41F yesterday afternoon. Brrrrrrrr!
C
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camille @ Mar 28 2009, 08:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Quote:
Yes those planters are lethal RK :huh:
Rattlesnakes in one, a gator chasing a dog in another[/b]
Gator? wrong state Camille.... :D....were you in East Texas too, you know we call that Louisiana...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Woody of TX @ Mar 28 2009, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Ahh Woodster. You don't have to go very far east to get some gators. I've seen 'em as close as 60 miles SSE from the Big D....actually they are quite common there...and I hear tell the Trinity River has plenty of them.Quote:
Gator? wrong state Camille.... :D....were you in East Texas too, you know we call that Louisiana...[/b]
But me-thinks she was referring to a specific story that a terrific story teller was telling. :D
Why aren't you out shooting guns BTW?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rudyard K @ Mar 28 2009, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Guns? You better start getting your stories straight Woody. :lol:Quote:
Why aren't you out shooting guns BTW?[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ansley Ayers @ Mar 28 2009, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Ahhh my dear. You can shoot guns there too. It's called a range. :DQuote:
Guns? You better start getting your stories straight Woody. :lol:[/b]
I would never give him up on his cover story. :D
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Ansley wrote>
Guns? You better start getting your stories straight Woody.[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rudyard K @ Mar 28 2009, 10:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Quote:
Ahhh my dear. You can shoot guns there too. It's called a range. :D
I would never give him up on his cover story. :D[/b]
Shit....my cover is blown.....
Gun range right down from the strip......remind me not to piss off some women, little scary at 45 ft and the pattern is 4", hand held 9 MM ten shot round. :o The girl is bad ass! I think she can out shoot our other friend RK.
Yankees
Patriots
Giants
Hmm... And those are my guesses for the top.
Institute a salary cap in baseball and we'll see how long the Yankees can manage to stay at the top.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AustinLiv @ Mar 30 2009, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>I'm more interested in a salary "floor" -- after these owners take public $ for stadiums I think they owe the taxpayers/fans a competently run, competitive team not just throwing the cheapest team possible out there and cashing the check for shared TV revenue....Quote:
Institute a salary cap in baseball and we'll see how long the Yankees can manage to stay at the top.[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (atlcomedy @ Mar 30 2009, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>That makes sense. Maybe we can get all of the teams to perform above the 50% level too. :rolleyes:Quote:
I'm more interested in a salary "floor" -- after these owners take public $ for stadiums I think they owe the taxpayers/fans a competently run, competitive team not just throwing the cheapest team possible out there and cashing the check for shared TV revenue....[/b]
When the luxury tax was instituted in baseball on teams that had a payroll above a certain amount there was discussion about a minimum payroll that a team had to have but it was not approved.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (atlcomedy @ Mar 30 2009, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>As an almost lifelong Pirates fan... I support this measure whole-heartedly!!!! :lol:Quote:
I'm more interested in a salary "floor" -- after these owners take public $ for stadiums I think they owe the taxpayers/fans a competently run, competitive team not just throwing the cheapest team possible out there and cashing the check for shared TV revenue....[/b]