Providers, how many civilian dates do you go on before telling the guy about the hobby?
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Providers, how many civilian dates do you go on before telling the guy about the hobby?
The same amount of time as it takes to have sex. Normally 10 dates. Because when I have sex with someone.
I want to make sure he's going to have sex with me when ever I want it.
So that takes more that three to five dates to figure out that's the guy.
Plus it takes time to get him deep in and liking me so much that the job won't matter.
Interesting, I dont believe I could date a provider. Too many cons out weigh the pros for me.
That's just me.
The best relationships are built on trust, the funnest are the ones built on having the same kinks. When it comes to escorts and hobbiests getting together, the only relationships I have seen succeed are when it's an open marriage. They might not hobby anymore but go out swinging together or have friends they play with. If this was on a dating app I would either bring it up immediately if you are going to have a problem with her seeing other guys, or wait until she is ready to tell you herself. Either way you need to be okay with her fucking other guys.
What are civilian dates again....
Who does that? Yuck! Lol
All jokes aside, I can’t date and do this.
I don’t want to lie or tell them my business.
Tbh this takes care of my needs and gives me
enough time to take good care of myself without
distractions or all the bs that happens in conventional relationships.
Sooooo when do y’all let the ladies you have
in your civilian life know about your hobby, hmm? Lol.
ZERO.
No civie dates ..
I learned this a sad way, but all men are the same Hobbyists just respect our terms more without the emotional hang ups.
Real Vivid dates are not for me.
I would rather die than fuck or suck or do anything with a Man for free.
[QUOTE=Ebony Jasmine Love 'Sooooo when do y’all let the ladies you have
in your civilian life know about your hobby, hmm? Lol.[/QUOTE]
thats a good and tough one to answer and the reply to that is....................*drumrolls*....(
......stay tuned until the next episode of Dragon ball z
Sooo how many dates does it take for you guys to tell the woman that you see providers? That seems like the real question you should have asked because its definitely something you should tell them, also, I find it creepy when hobbyist match with us on dating sites and dont say they recognize us from here. If you dont say anything then why should we?
To answer this question, If I were to have a civilian relationship, I wouldn't be in the hobby anymore so it wouldnt be brought up *shrugs*
Uuuuu
Am I the only cynic who finds conventional thoughts about conventional relationships silly.
Is marriage obsolete yet?
Sure it’s great to have a support system in life..
I’m baffled by full grown adults who think it’s right to be legally bound to someone forever.
Like we don’t see this shit doesn’t work the majority of the time.
Omg I can’t... lol. TFF.
GREAT ANSWER!! I have dated men in and out of the hobby... To be honest, men who hobby are more interesting and tend to be better in bed...
That being said... I don't date as much anymore because I'm working on some new things and I find that most people do not appreciate the effort it takes to be successful in any venture... There are only so many hours in the day and all of my free time goes to my children...
A lot of guys hobby to experience things that their SO can't or won't do, and if SO knew about it, that would be a deal-breaker. Same with dates, we're usually trying to put our best foot forward, and let's face it, hobbying is stigmatized by many if not most civilians.
For me, the hobby is more to fill the gaps between SO's and love interests. After going a certain amount of time without having a beautiful gal sit on my face, the urge to merge kicks in. Luckily there are any number of hobby gals who are happy to oblige.
I know there are a few lucky guys who hobby with the knowledge of their SO, and sometimes even with their participation. That's the exception, and I wonder if they know how lucky they are. But most of us try to fly under the radar, and why not? If we show our hand, word tends to get out, and that can be counterproductive.
Hats off to the gals that are able to provide and have a love life. Also to the gals that don't feel the need to do both. It's all about identifying what we need and finding ways to get it.
agree that some men hobby because we are able to fullfill certain pleasures needs and fantasy desires that a SO be it wife or gf wouldnt want to do unless u beg or keep asking then that takes all the fun out of it. That being only one reason and there are ton more deeper reasons men do each different. And telling the SO that if hobby or not depends on how open or close minded she is. I look at hobbying better for single men or men that just got out of long relationship like me. I didnt hobby when i was with my ex i knew nothing about this world until after we broke up.
I am single and not dating so none of that applies to me. I just enjoy doing freaky things and it's easier to find girls here rather than IRL. Like how many dates do I need to go on until I find out your okay with me sticking my whole arm up your ass and make you in to my puppet!(J/K). Too many vanilla people out there, and to the freaks I look like a vanilla myself so it's a vicious cycle.
Probably me too, hence the long gaps between SOs and love interests. Monogamous relationships can be high maintenance, and the rules of engagement aren't always clear. Like honesty, but not too much honesty, for example.
The hobby is far less complicated, hence its appeal to guys like me who mostly just want a beautiful gal to sit on his face from time to time.
A very interesting (if not always informative) thread and
my commendations to all of the above for keeping it interesting, civil and on topic!
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About the "marriage" questions ...
statisticians will always cite the "fact" that the annual number of divorces appears to be 50 pct of the annual number of marriages.
However, in the U.S., drilling deeper into the stats seems to indicate that the number of "longevity" marriages (25+ years) appears to be fairly constant -- and the rate of widowed "oldsters" getting remarried appears to be increasing slightly (ages 50+ and even more so 60+).
Overseas, the numerics seem to skew quite a bit differently depending on the aging of the populations, birth rates, health, emigration, immigration, and multiple other socioeconomic factors.
^^^ much of which will, imo, surely affect the U.S. marriage stats over the next couple of decades.
As I have on another thread
PUSSY cost a lot
Marry one costs MORE
Why would I go to civil date?!
I am in lovely lust with few of my ATF, who spoiling me rotten. Who intertain and please, ME. Who are writing daily sexy notes to me and never ask where am I, and why dinner is not ready? My Hobbyists are attentive and always here to help. I can have different sexy things done to me, or do it myself, without guilt or rejection. I can openly discuss and share stories without shame and "good-girl" chip on the shoulder. I can travel whenever I want and with whoever I want, as often as I want, for as long as I want. Who in the real life can do that?
I get bored quickly. And here, @Home, is always somebody, who wants to worship me and give me million of compliments.
How many times, in RL can you tell someone 'Kiss my Ass" and they will do it, without hesitation, but with great enthusiasm?!
How many times, in RL you guys had a sexy-bedroom-date and had only orally pleased the girl, and asked nothing in return?! And wanted to do it tomorrow again?! Would you even think of bringing a present for her, in the Real Life Dating?!
My HobbyHubby(yes!) has to wait weeks, sometimes to see me, and is never angry with me.
No Real Life Dating for me, thank you, come again.
xoxoxoxo
I was in a "PLAYFUL" mood when I posted that the other day... but I am genuinely sorry to hear that hobbying has negatively impacted both your physical health and your marriage... I truly am...:(
I hope that all of your future relationships...be it short or long term.... proceed with much less angst and heartache...😥
Your saddened slave,
Guinevere
Sweetheart I appreciated your playful post. Please know that hobbying has not impacted me negatively at all. My std tests have always been negative, and my wife and I are as happy together as ever. Of course she was not happy when she first learned about my shenanigans, but she was quick to forgive. Our sex life is better than it’s been for years, and the hobby has rejuvenated me. No angst or heartache.
One of these days I hope you and I can meet. I’ve been intrigued by you for a long time.
Don’t be sad.
:kiss:
Why have a civie date? That's a good question... Sometimes, I need a break from this world and my real life career... I have a few male companions that I enjoy sneaking away...from the world to see..
We will do very basic things... Watch movies, go bowling, hiking etc... And I get to choose how the time ends... Sometimes, I'm FRISKY and other times I'm not... I can just be ME...
I spend most of my alone time with my children, exercising, designing and/or reading... My little mini vacations...with my male companions...can be quite therapeutic for me...
Then my creative nature is restored...and I can return to our world and my professional one...rested and ready to take on the world...😊
OH!! I am so glad to hear that you are well physically and that your marriage is doing better than ever...
You are very kind and I appreciate your chivalrous response... I would be honored to make your acquaintenance...
I always tell the men I see that I am OK if they have SEX with other people... I prefer my "SO" to see escorts when I am in a relationship because I value the professionalism of the ladies in our world... I never want there to be ANY BUNNIES BOILING on the stove!! Lol
I completely respect that... I've done monogamy and I never had a problem with it... I guess now I'm in a different place than where I was 7 years ago... I have dated a couple and experienced a lot of swinger events etc...and I have enjoyed my open relationships just as much as my monogamous ones...
Anyone, that I've ever dated seriously knew I was SG... But that was only after I knew that they were not the type to do crazy... :)
Life is supposed to be lived, loved and enjoyed as each of us sees fit... As long as someone isn't deliberately hurting another person...than I tend to be a "Live and let live" sort of person... Not everyone has to have the same lifestyle for me to find them interesting and unique...:)
Having dated several providers in the past, I can speak from experience. While every person is unique, the same pattern has occurred with all 4 of them. I see them for a couple sessions, they invite me over for a freebie or 2, next thing I know they are calling me their boyfriend and talking about quitting the hobby even though it was never suggested. They keep telling me they will quit, stop posting ads, and start running low on money. They're too proud to take my money, so they start working again secretly and get defensive when I ask them about it.
TL;DR it might work with some unicorn out there, but human nature will always get in the way.
Maybe after the 5th, but then again probably NEVER because it can backfire on you also!