I know this topic comes up from time to time. Just curious what's the latest and greatest or somebody's got the scoop to something like the little blue pill
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I know this topic comes up from time to time. Just curious what's the latest and greatest or somebody's got the scoop to something like the little blue pill
I order mine in bulk from India.
you have a link or website, thanks sexy ?
I have an ATF client that uses the blue pill and I can pass on the information.
Generic Viagra is readily available now on forhims.com, getroman.com, etc.
my co-pay is $20 for 24 pills through my doctor and insurance.
Zoo
Thank you for the tip !! Hugs and kisses you down belowQuote:
Originally Posted by Zooruptcy
Pecker pills are a band-aid for more serious issues. To get a good erection you need blood flow and testosterone. As we gents age, testosterone production decreases by about 2% a year after about 35 and blood flow can decrease based on your diet and fitness. Hit the gym is you haven't in a while and get fit. Lift weights 30 minutes a day 3 times a week, this will stimulate testosterone production. Go to GNC or go online and look for a testosterone booster. It's to a steroid, rather, its natural substances that stimulate the body's natural production of testosterone. Also do 30 minutes of cardio (running, fast walking, stair master,etc) to stimulate your blood flow. Again, look online or GNC and get a nitric oxide booster. This uses natural substances to help expand your blood vessels and promote growth of new blood vessels. I've always been a fitness nut but added test booster and nitric oxide a few years ago and I don't need vitamin V very much anymore. i still take it occasionally, especially when coach says go for the 2-point conversion, wink wink. But I can pop a hard-on almost as good as I did 25-30 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sc0-HM825M
Testosterone Booster---Funny
Why not go to a male clinic and get the real deal from a Dr.?? After insurance the cost is $3 per injection and I take an injection every 7-10 days. Individual results and dosage may vary depending on your free T level. Look up HCG as well. It assists you body in making efficient use of the testosterone, increases sex drive and counters sack shrinkage from T use.
IMHO, you would have more participation if you would have posted this in the Mens LR.
Guy, All I'm saying as a early-mid 50's guy, I've noticed big changes by using these OTC supplements. may not be for everyone, but it's an option to try if you want. Just sharing the info and my experience.
While I agree that things like Sildenafil (generic Viagra) or any of the "afil" erectile dysfunction drugs are essentially band-aids to other underlying issues, I would seriously caution about going out and taking OTC "T" boosters.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAtuzak
The primary underlying issue with ED is typically low testosterone. As mentioned earlier it's a normal process that testosterone goes on the decline after about age 35 in many men. For some it will never be an issue, for others it will have minimal effect, and yet still for others the effect as time goes on might be quite profound. It's dependent on each individual.
There are a few subtypes of testosterone, the one that you want to be at a regular level (500-850ng per deciliter) is your "Free T" level. The free T means it doesn't have proteins tightly bound so it can enter cells and activate receptor sites very easily (giving us men all the good effects of a regular T level).
You DO NOT want really high levels of sex hormone binding globulin testosterone. This type of T is inactive and unavailable to do much in the way of feeling better mentally, manly, virile, increasing muscle mass, bone density, increasing happiness and mental acuity, and so on. This is why it's very possible to have an overall high "T" level but suffer the effects of low T symptoms (i.e. bc it's not "free T").
Low T levels, especially low free T can lead to major side effects besides just low sex drive and erectile dysfunction. Such as, the inability to build muscle, low bone density, severe depression, lethargy and lack of mental acuity, heart and/or BP issues. The list goes on.
Albumin bound testosterone is another type of T. It has a weak protein bond and can be used to make free T when necessary so this one is still somewhat ok. What you really want is a high "free Testosterone" level (at least 375ng+/dl but 500ng+/dl is better).
You don't want to have T levels that are too high either. This can lead to many adverse side effects. For one excess T can get converted to estrogen. As a man you don't want that :wink: It can also cause prostate issues, cancer, etc...
The problem with the over the counter T boosters is they don't really contain ingredients that conclusively help with increasing testosterone levels. Things like DHEA, Creatine, zinc, various herbs, etc... None are proven to do anything conclusively to promote T levels. In fact, some studies have shown severe stomach discomfort after weeks of taking these supplements. It's also largely a huge waste of money. Now, that said, there might be some anecdotal accounts (per above quite) or even odd psychosomatic effects. But that's about it.
The nitric oxide would help with blood flow though. That's exactly what the "afil" range of drugs do (such as Viagra or Cialis). However they are dramatically more effective than otc nitric oxide boosters. But, yes, nitric oxide boosters can help with blood flow.
My advice would be to see a doctor, get a blood test to check your various testosterone levels and get an Rx for testosterone replacement therapy (or a shot) if it turns up that you have declining T levels. The shot is going to have a declining effect toward the end of the 2wks when you are needing another. My dad took the shots. I would advise using a gel or goto a pharmacy that can do compound mixtures (likely the doc would give you a 5% or 10% concentration mixture).
As for the question about peter pills the best solution is likely to just get an RX for generic V (Sildenafil). Goto GoodRx.com and check the pricing. You will likely find it cheaper than your insurance copay.
You should always use one of the tools like GoodRx these days. Pharmacies are not allowed to tell you about cheaper alternatives per their contracts with the insurance and pharmaceutical companies.
So, again, you should always always use discount pricing tools these days, even with great company insurance. That goes for *ANY* prescription.
Good luck! Stay safe.
-mg
Hey MG, I have seen the Good Rx television commercial where the Pharmacist tells the waitress, with 2 little kids, her son's prescription will be $67. The waitress says she doesn't have that and is about to leave and the Pharmacist says "Wait, have you heard about Good Rx?" It went from $67.00 to $8.90!! MAN!! that's a savings of 87%!!! What a nice Pharmacist lady!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mathguy
So what are you talking about MG? Of course the Pharmacist can tell you about cheaper alternatives. I saw it on television and you know they would not lie or deceive you on television!!! MG, here is a link to the commercial so you can be a believer to!!!
https://www.ispot.tv/ad/deas/goodrx-...eeds-this-drug
BTY, I'm looking to meet some nice ladies on OH2 that I can get an 87% discount with. Oh, maybe I can also catch one of these Unicorns I keep hearing about on here as well. :lol:
MathGuy... everything that you said was consistent with what my doc is doing for me... I need to check the Free T number, tho
Doc... Maybe download the app GoodProvider... maybe 87% discounts available there?!?!?
Thanks skittlez. Ya, take a look at your labs and look at the levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by skittlez
I made a grammatical and content error in my post above that I can't edit now.
To be clear, "free T" is only about 1-2% of your total T. The total T will be the one that is around the 275ng/dl to 850ng/dl range.
So, in short, "free T" will be in a "pg/dl" measurement (trillionths of a gram per deciliter of blood).
Use this table to see what your total T and free T should look like for your age range:
Testosterone Level Chart for Varying Ages
(disclaimer: I do not endorse, promote, or advise you buy products from this company site, but the charts for T levels are not bad)
FYI: The ideal range is >22 picograms per deciliter on the chart for the "Free T" level.
Doc, I'm guessing your simply jesting with me about the crooked nature of some of these TV commercials? Hehe :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by DocHoliday
Some can give you info. It's not like an absolute hard and fast rule, or law, no. It depends on the pharmacy. But the big chains usually cannot. In fact, try to get a big chain to use your phone to lookup goodrx, or any other discount pricing. They almost never can. They will say, "I'm not allowed to do it for you.". It's usually in their contracts with the insurance and/or the pharma companies.
Now, that said, some of them are allowed to provide info if you straight up ask them, "is this the best or cheapest price, is there an alternative?". However, many of them, especially the big ones, if you don't do that they simply cannot offer the advice. I'm telling ya, it's a damn racket :mad: :rolleyes:
Oh, btw, I just mentioned GoodRx bc I happen to use it some. I'm not at all affiliated with or gain anything whatsoever by mentioning their name. Just a little disclaimer.
First I heard of that app. Bro. but an absolutely BRILLIANT idea!!! You have a link Skit???Quote:
Originally Posted by skittlez
Yep! +1 No kidding :giggles:Quote:
Originally Posted by DocHoliday
Well, I stand corrected. Math guy has the scientific data on this. Mine is just anecdotal from my personal experience. Wasn't trying to push any product or anything. I guess I'll just shut the fuck up on this subject for now on...Tuz
No need to go away mad Bro. MG is cool. He was not trying to mess with you. He ain't like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAtuzak
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Originally Posted by MAtuzak
Thx Doc. Ya what Doc said. Totally cool buddy. It very well may help in your case, anecdotal, psychosomatic, or otherwise. I was just offering some additional objective data and a link b/c testosterone replacement therapy is a very hot topic these days. No harm no foul. I didn't mean anything insulting in the slightest.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocHoliday
Some doctors believe its far too overly prescribed. Others believe just the opposite. Each will vehemently debate their side too. :giggles: Go figure. :rolleyes:
Personally, I'm on the side of "realistic" testosterone therapy. The problem with many is they over take it, which is quite dangerous. Not unlike taking anabolic steroids.
On the other hand if you have extremely low overall T levels, particularly free T, it can lead to some pretty serious adverse effects as well. The goal is to try to achieve a realistic balance of bioavailable testosterone in your bloodstream for your age range.
If you have declining T levels testosterone replacement therapy can literally be like a wonder drug. Men get much of their strength and muscles from it as most people know, but we also get mental clarity, better memory, euphoria and happiness, better overall physical health (as long as you don't ridiculously over do it for your age range), lower body fat, etc.
-mg
....voice from back row:
I would rather have a date without "Peter Pills." I understand your/his/her/our desire to impress me/her/him/us with your hardness, but it is totally unnecessary. Admiring each-others bodies and minds, can be done without "being banged like a screen door."
And thank you very much, my dear gentleman, who have disclosed your indulgence with pharmaceuticals to me, or abstinence from such.
I would like to get some Personality Pills instead of Peter Pills, so we can share: 1/2 for you, 1/2 for me, and no side-effects!
And yes, girls do take some Peter Panny Pills. I have tried Viagra, my heart was running laps around me, and I got totally exhausted from anxiety - not my cup of tea. Topical creams and lubes are more popular with VJJ.
While I wait to get validated, I will second the above thread about Testosterone injections...HOLY SCHNIKES, was it a game changer for me. Not just because my long lost friend Morning Wood returned to stay, but I also exercise, and after about two months, I could feel a change in my workouts. I’m not a gym rat or anything, but I did notice my body feeling more efficient when I worked out or rode my bike. As for my dances with the Little Blue Man (my pet term), I now use it when I want to go for MSOG in my sessions :rocker:. Def get those T levels checked...it’s worth the fix!
Thanks for the endorsement Gengh. :twothumbs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Genghisdon
One thing I'd say is talk to your doc about injections vs daily gels or creams. Some people love the injections, and if you have low T then basically anything is going to be like a miracle (as you stated above re: your workouts).
However, I know in my dad's case he didn't like that the injections would wain some toward the end of the 2wk injection cycle. So he asked his doc for the gels and has been a lot happier with a much more stable T level.
The injections are nice b/c you do it and you're done for 2wks (I know my dad loved that, for example) but the problem is there is this initial amp up effect when the potency is super high and it can drop toward the end, when you are needing another shot, as the concentration of the injection and resulting T levels are fading. IJS. Worth a discussion with your doctor to see if gels or creams would be even better. I know that my own father loves it that way and will never go back to injections. Just a thought.
-mg
I seem to not mind the injection...yes, they’re intramuscular, but I have found the right spot in my leg that hurts the least over time. One treatment I did try and quickly gave up was Testapel...that’s the one where they cut you open and feed dissolving pellets in between your skin and fat layer (not a hard thing to do with my lard ass...ha ha ha). The idea behind that treatment is there was no peak and valley with the T levels, and things gradually decreased over three months until it was time for another visit.
Man, not only did the operation LITERALLY turn out to be a pain in the ass, I never fully healed from the first treatment and my body rejected some of the pellets. So, I am now back to riding the ups and downs of the injections.
Oh - one other thing I had to work around was acne. But, I am on an oral antibiotic for that. It’s like my body is one giant ga,e of Whack a Mole...fix one thing and another pops up 😂. It’s all worth it in the end for certain!