curious about new stuff?

so what have you not tried yet that you want to?
2 girls?
TUMA?
Prostate milking?
strap on?
restraint> aka tie and tease?
role play? costumes?
shower play?
squirting, education, demo, wet play?
electro play?
impact play like flogging, spanking, paddling?
extreme CBT?
edging, tease and denial, forced orgasm?

so gents, what's on your bucket list and what secret fantasy have you been nurturing but not pulled the trigger on yet? yes I know, some things are a bit scary to trust someone to do right. some things are embarrassing to ask for. that's why you see a pro to lead you thru the exciting newness of trying something totally out of the regular run of the mill session. so fellas, fess up, what sort of session have you been dreaming of but not yet tried?

Sue Nami one day I’m going to cum see you for tie and tease prostate milking and squirt school. I think that would be fun.

Yes it would sugar. I can do all that and drive you wild!! just say when mr sexy, love to see you

Strap on Fucked by a sexy chick.

Haven't done a foursome.

Haven't done it in the outdoors...somewhere by Town Lake would be hot.

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Strap on Fucked by a sexy chick.

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Well hello ;)

betty and ava, we should have a killer girl party at my new house and have some fun. I would love to hang out with y'all and fluff, assist or just host a wild and crazy girl party. nothing liked a strap on orgy with sexy fun women, sounds like my kind of party.

Mmmm my kinda gal!
I have had the pleasures of doing DPs on several gorls during a doubles playtime!!


My bucket list is still a bukkake

I still have never found the right combo for a MFM. I REALLY want to try it again, but just never found the right combo to let loose with
Still haven’t had the pleasure of being in an orgy.
Last but not least, I would love to find a Domme or switch as a boyfriend. I’m dominant, so I would love to finally let go and be able to submit. I will not submit in the hobby.

Y'all are getting crazy and I'm just sitting here wondering what prostate play is like. I've heard it can be pretty amazing but at the same time.... Someone fiddling around with my butthole makes me nervous. Guess I'll have to pull the trigger one of these days and try it.

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Originally Posted by Sue Nami

so what have you not tried yet that you want to?
2 girls?
TUMA?
Prostate milking?
strap on?
restraint> aka tie and tease?
role play? costumes?
shower play?
squirting, education, demo, wet play?
electro play?
impact play like flogging, spanking, paddling?
extreme CBT?
edging, tease and denial, forced orgasm?

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I’ll have one of each, please. :)

One that I would like to try (it is a two session double)....

I meet up with a more aggressive and a more submissive set of women. The premise is that I am not aggressive enough and want to be taught how to manhandle a lady. There is no humiliation or degradation just learning. On the first visit the more aggressive woman shows me the ropes of fucking, not making love. The right spank, where and when to control, how and when to use butt play for control and things like that. The submissive is the target. This hour or 90 minute session has me leaving with utter confidence on my manly-hood!

The second session is supposed to be the same but with my new confidence I make the aggressive the target. I walk into the room immediately push the aggressive up against the wall and make her submit to my desires. Once the more submissive sees this she joins in helping to control the aggressive and be sure the two of us are fully satisfied.

This I would find to be very educational but allow very erotic.

Sue, I also need to make the drive up to see you.. CW Prostrate milking with a NQNS finish X2 would be a dream cum true...

Well SA...tjat first scenerio can be done by me and Sonya when I visit in october...lol. wink wink

Rock on Sue!!

bring it postal, I am so excited to meet you and show you the...um.. ropes so to speak

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love monger, that can be arranged mr sexy.

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rob the builder, I'm your go to girl for this hun.

Nothing to be embarrassed about with the prostate thing! We all have one... an asshole not a prostate. Lol! As long as things are prepped & clean. I’ve heard and seen with my own eyes what it’s like to have a fanfuckingtastic explosive orgasm that way. Yolo right?! Find a lady you are comfortable with, lose the inhibitions and have a blast!

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so what have you not tried yet that you want to?
2 girls?
TUMA?
Prostate milking?
strap on?
restraint> aka tie and tease?
role play? costumes?
shower play?
squirting, education, demo, wet play?
electro play?
impact play like flogging, spanking, paddling?
extreme CBT?
edging, tease and denial, forced orgasm?

so gents, what's on your bucket list and what secret fantasy have you been nurturing but not pulled the trigger on yet? yes I know, some things are a bit scary to trust someone to do right. some things are embarrassing to ask for. that's why you see a pro to lead you thru the exciting newness of trying something totally out of the regular run of the mill session. so fellas, fess up, what sort of session have you been dreaming of but not yet tried?

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I’ll have one of each, please. :)

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One of each??? Wow. :scared: Not me. Some of that list is freaky! I don't like the torture and hardcore bondage stuff.

2 girls? Oh sure! :smile:
DATO (I don't really want TUMA!) is great sure! :smile:
Roleplay/costumes? Oh ya. Fun! :smile:
Teasing (maybe some tying/cuffs - but not any big time bondage stuff)? Ya that can be fun! :smile:

Squirting? Love to get a girl off that can actually squirt or have gspot orgasm but not all girls can really do it easily, or even at all, and I definitely don't want you to just piss on me! No tank you! No no. :smile:

Don't like the torture stuff on that list AT ALL. Nope. :sick:
Extreme CBT ???? OMG. :puke:

My try new thing is pretty lame, I would love to be able to take advantage of msog as I am a one popper.
Squirter would be fun as well!

hey there Dragon big boy..wink wink. squirter msog fan here with brunettish hair here. LOL howdy, I maybe your next new ATF.

LOL Sue!!!!!! I think you might give me a heart attack.

dragon, I haven't lost a fellow yet!! be brave lil buckeroo and dip your toe into the dark side. I promise to be gentle and re calibrate your fun meter

Squirting and FMF are two of my all-time favorites, but haven't had either in years. Took a chance with the prostate thing once, but it wasn't what I'd hoped, so maybe it just wasn't right or I wasn't relaxed enough. Who knows? I have yet to session with Native American, Southwest Asian or East Indian, and those are on my bucket list. I'm also curious to experience a monster clit. Also, public sex of some type. I'm sure if I keep thinking I'll come up with more.

Squirting is fun but just real hard to achieve. I don't even think it's very feasible in the "hobby" when you are paying someone for sex. Maybe with great chemistry and if you already know each other. Yea. But first time? That's like asking to win the lottery.
Squirting is hard to achieve even in private life. It's so personal and vulnerable. The woman needs to be so relaxed and trusting with you and obviously very horny and you need to be skilled at it.

Some girls can't have g-spot orgasms. It's virtually anatomically impossible for some. A "squirt" orgasm is really just a really hard internal anterior vaginal wall orgasm. And there is not "g-spot". Not conclusively. There does appear to be a Skene's gland which is similar to a mans prostate, however, they can't find it in all women (doesn't exist - that's why that woman can't do it no matter what). The Skene's produces a type of PSA which is what male semen is made of (prostate specific antigen).

FYI semen and sperm not equal. You can have 5.5ml's of semen (that's a large load btw) b/c he produces tons of PSA but have 50million dead or low motility sperm (i.e. not good swimmers). Another man can produce less PSA more around the avg of about 1.5-3ml's but have 200million highly viable sperm. So just an FYI. Semen and sperm are 2 separate concepts with zero correlation. Actually data suggests that men with hyperspermia (beyond 5.5 milliliters - look it up) are much less likely to have viable sperm. I only mention b/c there is such ridiculous nonsense about how a huge "load" could impregnate so many women, etc... Nope. A guy can dribble out 1.5milli's but have 300million very active "swimming" sperm.

The female Skene's is thought to produce a similar protein mixture. This is only partly due to what "squirts" out. That's a really bad term too. It should just be called a "g-spot orgasm". Most real ones don't really "shoot" and "squirt". They can a little. But the stuff in porn is just way way over the top. A woman would need to force that through her urethra. And that's not why a woman appears to "pee" when she g-spot orgasms. It's b/c of the Skene's gland along with some loss of control in the bladder. So there is a mixture of a protein from the skene's which is roughly homologous to the prostate in men along with urine from the bladder. This is also not surprisingly why many women find it easy to have a great orgasm when they need to pee. Not badly. You don't want that usually. But if they are feeling the sensation then they may start to get horny or want to fuck. These are usually girls who know that it's happened before and the thought of it is making them horny, they know its easy to feel good when that happens. My hypothesis is that that part is psychosomatic though. It's really just the arousal from remember how good past orgasms were and they know it can happen so their body begins to rev up. That's my theory on that. But anyway.

The other thing is that there is no such thing as a "g-spot" as in an organ. Even if you consider the Skene's gland. The g-spot is really just part of the entire clitoral nerve network that runs along the anterior wall of the inside of the vagina (up against the inside of tummy/lower tummy and behind the clit). If you don't believe me just read some online. I know from reading a lot but also from personal experience with 2 different girls in my life. Look it up though. This is why some girls can't do it. Not only do they not have a Skene's gland, or it can't be found (it's very small - doctors still can't agree on all the various aspects of it conclusively). The other thing is if they are not very receptive with the nerve endings throughout their clitoral network then it will be very difficult too.

It's all about genetics and where the nerve endings are, if they have a Skene's gland or not, how responsive it is, how responsive their internal clitoral network is, and of course you have to relaxed enough, horny enough, and the partner has to be experience enough to find it and massage it in the correct way.

But, again, g-spot is not an organ or even a real "spot". It's different for each woman. It's just a patch of nerves that are part of the clitoral network. Part of it will be really sensitive. If you hit that and can massage it correctly with her aroused enough, trusting enough with you to "let go", etc... then it can happen. But some girls just won't have that sensitivity or that gland won't be large enough or the internal clitoral network won't be sensitive enough and so on. A real true g-spot orgrasm (which, again, is really just an internal, anterior vaginal wall, clitoral network orgasm) will cause a woman to lose control of the bladder and she will appear to pee some (and indeed some will be urine and some will be mixed with vaginal acids and proteins along prostate like antigen proteins). Usually it will not "squirt" and "spray" all over the place.

If you want that.... I can make that easy for you. Tell the girl you like huge squirting like in porn. Tell her to drink a gallon of water 1-2hrs before your meeting. Then she can just force her pee out at the right time, acting like she is having a mind blowing orgasm, and "shoot" massive loads of piss all over you. Simple. Job done. You're a stud. Job well done. Go take a shower b/c you stink. :smile: But I guarantee that is not a real g-spot orgasm. Uh uh. :nono:

An actual real g-spot orgasm with a woman is a really magical thing. It is. It takes trust, being really into each other, expertise, and she has to completely let go (and she's gotta have the right genetics - really some women simply can't b/c the clitoral nerve network is not deep enough or sensitive enough etc). A real one, an actual real g-spot orgasm with a partner, is truly something to behold. Every man should get to experience that once in his life :smile: If he can. But they are not the end all be all to female orgasms. Other women who can't have them will know of no other orgasm and it will still be great! They have never had anything different so you/they are not "missing out" on anything (in that case).

That was an excellent read Mathguy. So basically, the squirting in porn is urine? How do you think that got started?

LOL Mathguy!!!
I have been with a few squirting women and no where near is that stuff mixed with urine; it is its own thing entirely. Now the porn piece is fake along with the yogurt sized facial shot.

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LOL Mathguy!!!
I have been with a few squirting women and no where near is that stuff mixed with urine; it is its own thing entirely. Now the porn piece is fake along with the yogurt sized facial shot.

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Well, it's true they won't all smell like urine. The orgasm itself, yes, doesn't come from that. That's entirely true. Totally agree with you buddy. There is a gland that produces an antigen protein. Certainly that is coming out (yep). Some will have more than others. But typically the orgasm is so intense that they lose control of part of the bladder. It may not smell though.

Urine smells strongly only b/c the byproduct of cellular metabolism, after filtering in the kidneys, which of course removes nitrogen, urea, uric acid, creatinine, allows those compounds in some cases to break down into ammonia or similar ammonia structures. Urea itself is a byproduct of the breakdown of protein structures. Under certain conditions or metabolic disorders (even if temporary - example: dehydration) the urea can break down to ammonia. It will have a strong odor. If you are well hydrated and have a good diet and no metabolic disorders you will not have stinky urine. It may have no odor at all there will be such a low concentration of urea and uric acids.

There is definitely a component of bladder leakage. The Skene's gland is simply not large enough to produce even the amount of semen that a male prostate produces (which in *extreme* cases is no more than 5.5-6.5milliliters). The Skene's cannot produce that much fluid. There is simply no way. It's anatomically impossible. But, yea it is possible that you have a large mixture of female proteins, acids, moisture, and prostate-like antigen mixed with some urine that has very little urea/uric acid and virtually no smell. But I guarantee there is urine in there.

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That was an excellent read Mathguy. So basically, the squirting in porn is urine? How do you think that got started?

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Hi, Ellen. Thank you for the compliment.

While I'm not a porn industry exec so I admit I cannot conclusively say exactly what it is or why they are doing it. I fully admit that. But I know from seeing what a g-spot orgasm looks like on a couple/few women, a real one, and it's just not anything like porn. Porn is so over the top blown away its absurd. There is no "shooting" and "squirting" unless they are forcefully pushing through the urethra. Which I imagine is what porn starlets are doing when told they need to do a squirting scene.

My guess is that this happened as the concept of squirting and the "g-spot" became more popular and known. In time because of all the various people who like "water sports" and are into gushing wet orgasms (some women are just very, very moist and produce lots of vaginal moisture proteins and acids and healthy bacteria - these are what help you keep infections away). I believe that as it became more popular the porn industry just kept "raising the bar". Just like they always do. Example: the massive amount of anal sex and various "extreme" acts in porn today versus what you would see even just 15 years ago.

If that makes sense? That's my overall hypothesis for why it's occurring in the adult film industry. I can tell you though those orgasms you see on porn sites are completely fake (unless maybe it's a rare true educational video or a couple that's doing it at home for fun). A real clitoral g-spot orgasm simply does not "shoot" and "spray" everywhere. It doesn't. Not even close. It may come out a little. And even that, if done in private life, is likely b/c the woman and the man are excited by it and she is allowing it to "fly out"/"force out" b/c they are into the idea of a really sloppy orgasm. Other than that, no. A real one is not like that at all. Not even remotely so (with the caveat that there are some educational style videos which are not bad at all - however I will even caution that some of those women I believe are still putting on a show for the camera or their man). Yea, it may "fly" around b/c some fluids are gushing as you lose control of muscles along with bladder and the Skene's but it's b/c the guy is flicking his fingers in a "come here"/"come hither" motion extremely rapidly and this is causing it "splash" (to a degree - not ridiculous amounts).

The volume we are talking about here is typically on the order of 1/2 cup to 1.5 cups. That's about the amount that would typically come out in a woman that experiences a g-spot orgrasm. In extreme case or fuller bladder maybe up to 2+ cups. Even 3/4 to 1 cup would wet a bed very nicely. So don't worry people you can still get your jollies off and have a woman have a real g-spot orgasm :smile: Sheesh I don't know what the fascination is with the wetting the "entire" bed and "spraying" pee everywhere. LOL.

EDIT: (just to add what a real one is like)
My ex years ago was the first person I experienced this with. Sometimes there was a lot. Sometimes not as much. Depends on her bladder her Skene's gland her moisture and hydration levels and so on. The first time this happened it wasn't even using toys or the fingers. She was sitting on me. And yes it feels like she pees on you. A bunch leaks out everywhere. She was on top rocking forward and back very quickly, which rubs that "g-spot" (just like the finger trick) and it hit just right and she came harder than I've ever seen anyone cum in my life. You will know a real one. It's IMPOSSIBLE to fake. She lost control. Complete control. The beginning was a yell of ecstasy, very loud. Wow. She began to shake and quiver as all the juices came flooding down all over my lap, penis, legs, and the bed. She started sweating profusely. She collapsed on top of me, still shaking, and moaning for what was at least a solid 3min if not longer. The tiniest movement would send shockwaves down her body during this time. The wetness obviously doesn't keep coming. That comes in the beginning as she loses control and the bladder empties and the Skene's gland and vagina produce large amounts of antigen and various acids and moisture.

Uhhhhh I sense an experiment!
One lady as the control, orgasm without ejaculate
One lady that does squirt, consistantly with little ejaculate
One lady that does sqiurt, consistantly with large ejaculate

Seems a sniff test, taste test, feel test of the source makes sense.
Then we test the ejaculate.

This is all theoretical of course. If you dont like my hypothesis, its three beautiful women there, who cares!!
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Hahahah....nice idea. Definitely be a fun experiment either way huh? :wink: :giggles:

wow that's quite some mansplaining going on there math. Look this is easily proven, as a squirting woman, I offer sessions with golden shower and squirting in the same sessions and I can show anyone who cares to learn the difference easily in a one hour fetish session. Please, put your money where your mouth is and pony up and let me prove it and you can write a review. I am not skeered and I squirt and it is most definitely NOT pee. Ya know, it always tickles me when a man writes a long missive about squirting is not real and merely pee when I have personally taught 100's of women to squirt. I am not here to argue with you. I am here to squirt on you. come here.

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wow that's quite some mansplaining going on there math. Look this is easily proven, as a squirting woman, I offer sessions with golden shower and squirting in the same sessions and I can show anyone who cares to learn the difference easily in a one hour fetish session. Please, put your money where your mouth is and pony up and let me prove it and you can write a review. I am not skeered and I squirt and it is most definitely NOT pee. Ya know, it always tickles me when a man writes a long missive about squirting is not real and merely pee when I have personally taught 100's of women to squirt. I am not here to argue with you. I am here to squirt on you. come here.

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Right, Sue, but you even admit that your sessions are golden shower sessions too. I don't want to "argue" with you either. I appreciate your viewpoint. And I don't mind offering differing viewpoints. There is nothing wrong with that. It's a healthy form of debate. But I've got a lot scientific knowledge in this dome :wink: I read a lot, a LOT. Plus I've had 2 personal lovers in my life that I've done this with regularly. I'm just saying this isn't just "some guy" trying to explain how your body works. Please don't take it that way. You wouldn't think that about your male gynecologist would you? Or a guy think that about his female urologist? Just saying. Not hating. I'm glad you engaged and are offering your opinion and experiences.

There is definitively not conclusive data on this yet, so I agree that's it's not entirely known yet. Not *even* to this very day. However, the one thing virtually all urologists, gynecologists, and various sexologists agree on though is that a significant portion of the fluid is urine.

Examples:

1. "On Christmas Eve 2014, a group of French doctors published a study of seven women, who were given ultrasound scans before and just after ejaculation. The scans suggested that the women were probably urinating – though Dr Salama and his colleagues added: 'a marginal contribution of prostatic secretions to the emitted fluid often exists.'"

2. "Subsequently in 2015, New Scientist published an analysis of these results. The seven Frenchwomen believed that they were experiencing true ejaculation — not urination. But the fluid that five of them produced was actually urine."

The Skene's glands are tiny structures (in women where they can find them - not all have them/or can find them) near the urethra. These glands do produce a fluid similar to semen that is produced in the male prostate (at much lower quantities though). Some women can have more or larger of these glands but they are still *very* small. They simply cannot produce that much fluid. It is medically impossible. Medical scientists generally agree that some women appear to release a prostatic-like secretion (which may also contain a prostate specific antigen - there is a very small amount in male semen that is used to break it down so that sperm can swim - that's what makes semen liquify with minutes - super important for delivery to eggs). However, it's relatively small amounts and the rest is urine.

The other thing is the fluid, regardless of if it's highly fructose based, along with other enzymes and PSA (similar to semen) type of fluid it absolutely does deliver through the urethral opening - not the vaginal opening. There is absolutely no doubt on this matter. And for this reason it's also extremely likely that the studies (such as the 2 above and many others online) which show urine content are concluding correctly that g-spot orgasm as a result of massaging along the clitoral network results in a couple of events. Namely, the release of vaginal secretions made up of various acids, healthy bacteria, water, etc... Also, the release of a semen like fluid (though in much lower quantities) from the Skene's glands (in women where these exist along the urethral tube and opening). And finally, partial loss of control of bladder content resulting in urine seeping. The amount will vary depending on many factors. Physiology. Hydration. Bladder contents. Intensity of orgasm. How well you are able to control your muscles when/if the orgasm occurs.

I think that people who believe it is not urine either A) want to believe that or B) it doesn't smell like urine and has a decent mixture of other vaginal secretions, antigen, Skene's gland secretions, etc which further masks that issue.
Urine does not always smell people. Urine smells because the byproduct of kidney processing is removing nitrogen and urea and uric acid. Urea is a by-product of mammalian protein metabolism. And urea itself can breakdown into ammonia. These are all what make urine smell. But you can easily have virtually odorless urine b/c it's low in nitrogen, urea, uric acid, and/or ammonia content. This will be much more common if you stay well hydrated and do not drink things that have diuretic effects.

And if the woman doesn't have Skene's glands that are identifiable, either too small, not responsive, non-existent, etc.... and even more importantly if she does not have a deep and sensitive internal anterior vaginal wall network of clitoral nerve endings she will likely never experience what has come to be known as a "g-spot orgasm" or "squirting". It's near anatomically impossible. Though I'd venture this is very rare. Most women just need the clitoral network. Most have that but may not be as sensitive or have certain mental taboo issues (blockers) and certain things which don't allow them to "let go" or be completely "vulnerable".

I believe that most women can achieve it. My hypothesis is that Skene's glands are not really responsible for most of it. They simply do not produce enough fluid, it's extremely minuscule. These glands are so small that some doctors/scientists cannot even find them in certain women (or believe they don't exist). And furthermore they are part of the urethral tube. Not the anterior vaginal wall that contains the clitoral nerve endings. So whether you have them or not is less an issue (regarding Skene's - that's my own personal theory on that one I admit - but with very concrete logic behind it).

The main issue is being able to relax, enjoy internal clitoral stimulation, remove taboos from your mind, trust your partner, don't be self conscious, don't worry about "peeing" or what your partner thinks. A woman needs to remove all of those ideas. She has to be completely comfortable with the partner. For example if you can't masturbate in front of the person, you can forget about g-spot orgasm. Not happening. I'll put my left hand on that (and I'm left handed) :wink:

Bottom line/TL;DR

I'm telling you.... it's urine (well, not all of it - but a good portion). It is. And either way, Skene's secretion and urine both come from the urethra. That much is conclusive. Look it up. Given that knowledge, it's not hard to see that the intense loss of control would result in the various secretions, including bladder leakage, coming out the urethra. Granted there can also be a healthy dose of various other vaginal secretions, acids, enzymes, etc... (these do *not* come from the urethra), possible Skene's secretions, and urine (these *do* come out the urethra - both of them). Urine does not have to stink. It can be completely odorless. Completely. Read above to understand why.

I wish you continued success with your sessions and am not trying to take anything away. I just wanted to offer up knowledge I have acquired backed up by experiences I have had. That's all. No harm no foul. Cheers! :twothumbs:

-mg

Very,very well written Mathguy. And science is on your side:)

This has gotten a bit interesting.
So I am curious on the ultrasounds, was it of the bladder? I am assuming they checked for fluid in the bladder. I think, while Sue offers GS and squirting at the same time, it would stand to reason if you pee on me (emptying the bladder) then subsequently squirt on me you would not see the discharge amount that one usually sees.
Thoughts?


Also I wonder if we should break this off to its own thread, keeping this for the "try new stuff". I think it is a worth while discussion as the female form, no matter how good I think I am, is still a mystery!
Cheers
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Very,very well written Mathguy. And science is on your side:)

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Thanks, Ellen. :smile: I appreciate it. It's a really interesting topic and I didn't mean to cause a derail on the thread but I love the topic and I've read so much on it throughout the years as well as having two personal partners where this was a very intense experience. Like I was saying I've done it with toys, fingers, various positions, and even with my penis alone (that can happen is the penis fits right and rubs the "g-spot" just right as the girl is in a position that she or the guy can cause a rapid rocking motion - similar to the fingers rubbing the spot). The two best positions I have known for the orgasm to occur are: girl on back legs open and girl presses knees to her chest. That latter one allows for a highly angled entry to that fingers, a toy, or even penis, can hit the "spot" on the anterior wall (under the tummy up and behind the clitoris).

It's a super interesting topic b/c even to this day not all scientists agree on every single aspect (though many parts I mentioned are quite conclusive). Thank you so much for the compliments. I'm truly glad you enjoyed the read! :smile:

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This has gotten a bit interesting.
So I am curious on the ultrasounds, was it of the bladder? I am assuming they checked for fluid in the bladder. I think, while Sue offers GS and squirting at the same time, it would stand to reason if you pee on me (emptying the bladder) then subsequently squirt on me you would not see the discharge amount that one usually sees.
Thoughts?

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Yes, they have taken them of the entire region. And, yes, you will not have much liquid come out if the bladder empties. See that's my point. I've seen this myself up close. Let me explain a couple things. But this might be kinda gross to some; just a fair warning! :smile:

So I've explained all about the odor of urine and how it can be odorless if you have less urea and uric acid along with nitrogen products. You can read about it more at length above. Those are byproducts of protein metabolism. I'm not a biochemist but I have a best childhood friend who was going to stay in computer science with me but then decided to go off to school for a Ph.D in genetics/biochemistry and works at the Max Plank Institue (I won't say more b/c I have to protect identity). We have had *many* conversations about it over the years. One thing you have to realize is our entire body and genes are based largely on protein structures. In fact a "gene" is technically a piece of DNA that "codes" for a specific protein. That's the definition of a gene. It's a fancy way of saying gene sequences in DNA are designed to make certain proteins. Enzymes are type of proteins. Proteins are found all over our bodies, everywhere, every gene you have is a genetic structure that "codes" to make a certain type of "protein structure" (not just muscles, k?). Everything. Simply everything. That is what all genes in all DNA do....period. Ok, enough science class.

The other part is the color of urine. This is the part that "could" be a little gross for some of you. Urine is yellow b/c of a compound known urochome (actually it's call urobilin). I'm not going to explain the whole process b/c it would be like me trying to explain the Kreb's cycle which is something biochemists, doctors, and nutritionists spend the better part of an entire semester on. At any rate, urobilin ultimately comes from breakdown of bilirubin. Bilirubin is what ultimately turns to stercobilin in the large intestine and makes feces brown colored. Ok so I didn't mention that simply to be gross LOL. The thing is some of the bilirubin or these byproducts left in the large intestine get reabsorbed into the bloodstream and become "oxidized" to urobilin and eventually are excreted by the kidneys. This is why pee is yellow. The more you have the yellower your pee will be. I'm sure many have heard or "jaundice" or "yellow cap"? You know where that comes from? High bilirubin counts. Anyway that's why pee is yellow. Again, if you want nice odorless, colorless urine, what do you think you should do? ........... Yes, drink water. Stay hydrated with healthy fresh liquids, preferably plain clean water, but many other juices and drinks are okay too. This is the most important thing.

So, pee does not have to be yellow. If it is it's because you have high concentrations of urochrome/urobilin (which was reabsorbed in from your large intestine where the bilirubin was metabolized and flushed in the kidney as uroblin).
Pee does not have to stink. If it does this is due to high levels of urea, uric acid, and nitrogen. If you want to try an experiment to see how this works just eats TONS of protein for a few days or week. Protein shakes, protein rich foods, etc... In a few days or week your body will be breaking down the large excess of proteins which can not be used for regular cellular metabolism, muscle cell rebuilding, and so on. When that happens it will break down into these products and your pee will stink more. Drinking lots of water will mitigate that though to a degree.

The main thing though what I was getting at earlier with regard to your question about bladder emptying is that, yes, if the girl already orgasms and she has gushed or leaked a good bit already, she may still be capable of more g-spot orgasms. However there will be very little liquid which comes out. Some women won't be able to do that. Just like some guys can't cum again without a longer refractory period (that's the scientific term for "post cum resting before you can get off again"). Women typically don't have nearly as long a refractory period and some can multi-orgasm. Some cannot. Others need long breaks. This part is not at all about g-spot only orgasms this is talking about all female orgasms including g-spot.

Very likely if it's a girl that's quickly cumming again it's entirely possible, even if it's up to an hour after the original g-spot orgasm, and definitely if within 5-10min, there will certainly be much less volume of liquid. But she can still "cum". Just like a guy who rests and gets through his refractory stage can cum again but after 1 or 2 it might be a "dry" cum. Why? We don't reproduce semen that fast. The bladder fills faster so it's possible that a woman can continue to leak. But, yea, generally speaking it's going to be less and less if she is having frequent "g-spot" multi orgasms in close proximity. However, she can still cum.

That kind of cumming for a girl is different than a guy. We experience pleasure as a rush and explosion of semen forced through the urethra as it ejects and rapidly flies out the prostate. It is quite literally an "extremely enjoyable moment of pain" as the semen is forcibly pushed through the urethra at high velocity. This is different than female ejaculation. Totally different. Female ejaculation is not the same. That's where I think all the confusion begins. They do not produce "semen" and they do not eject it at extreme velocity.

This is what men experience. This is why some men "groan" or "snort" or make loud funny noises. It's literally an extremely enjoyable moment of pain. There are other factors obviously besides the "semen". You can dry cum. And that's ok. But tell me..... do you really want to dry cum? :wink: I think not. Doesn't feel as good. Not even close. For a woman though that part doesn't matter nearly as much (for some at all). The liquid is just a side effect of extreme ecstasy and losing control of muscles and bladder function (and, yes, admittedly there is evidence of many other secretions, vaginal, and urethral, that are not urine - but definitely not in that quantity range).

Okay, signing off. I salute you! <military salute!> haha :twothumbs:

-mg

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Originally Posted by DragonX

Also I wonder if we should break this off to its own thread, keeping this for the "try new stuff". I think it is a worth while discussion as the female form, no matter how good I think I am, is still a mystery!
Cheers
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That might be a good idea Dragon. I don't disagree. I certainly didn't intend to derail. But I admit I have a common "habit" of allowing my loaded brain to send forth spewing information! However, like I said in other places, I mean no harm and I'm really just trying to be helpful. For those who just want to be douches, I will caution you, getting into a verbal joust with me about that is not a really good idea :wink: :wink: (FYI Dragon that had nothing to do with your comment - your cool bro - I was sending that out to the "masses" who may decide they wanna be dicks/bitches - JS - some seem to want to - I mean don't read it if you don't like it or it's too long). But yea, maybe we should break it off to another thread since it wasn't the point of this thread. I agree completely.