Seeking No Issues

Fellow Mongers
Has anyone had any luck using the Seeking go around, for a mutual Arrangement?
Curious because I had a few lappies with this way hot potato at the local Ric'x cab, up North.
Tossed a pretty good load on this babe several times that had me going for a while.
As it turns out, I had some really good times with this babe, but when it came for any meet up or private Seek up with
her she never really delivered the goods. Played me once.

We painted a pretty picture, buy never got the brush wet.

NYE Vip and 3 days after more VIP....
She apologized and made it like we good lets start over.
I had some of the best times of my life at a SC that starts with an R and end in a S.

So much, that I even saved my seed and went straight to bed. Home at 5:30 am again?
Blue Balls again.
Including the original back in the day.

When it came to meeting up OTC..she pulled the classic excuse purse out and can up with all kinds of dreams.
I got the red rag excuse, "I'm trying to get to Vegas" ...all the classic baggage.
I would say maybe is was an old act for her, and maybe has past burn or burned issues and took some it out on me.
I'de been chatting her up on the txt line for like 2 and a half weeks and she came up with nothing but reasons why she couldn't
go further then the we VIP. No mention of "bring a condom sweetie".
Then the " honestly I can't see myself going beyond VIP with you". Not my type bs.
Attempted to click her up on Seeking...Then I decided to not go that route.
Some of this info is not in order of the 3 week soap drama I went though.
I should have walked after the first stand up or mind change OTC.
Guess she had me hooked.
Tell you this much, if it wasn't for the fact that Im slightly germaphobe.
I would have raped her butt in the Champagne room in a heartbeat.
Prick Tease vs Pussy Drunk?
Is there a Seeking Arrangement forum for me to post my warning of in order to find more history of the Babe on there?
I suppose I could reactivate my account but I dont wanna fuk w her no more...unless she comes begging back with a butt plug in her mouth.
crazy? Not even gonna mention the $$ I burn in flames.
Maybe I'm not find the high high-roller section here on the 02.
Searching her name both real and staged found me 0 results. Even the search term history rick struck me out.
I seek again for something else.
Man I miss the 80s ! I'm prob off my game in the RW now? Sexaholics Anonymous?

PM me if you think you know who this babe is.
She's on the Seeking page.

Sounds to me like she was just doing her job, which is to sell you a fantasy. She probably felt like this was the safest thing she could do after you were so pushy and spent so much money on her. What was she supposed to do, report you to management, boot one of her higher paying regulars and risk being blamed by the staff for losing the house consistent money?

You understood exactly what you were doing and now you're on here pitching a fit because you didn't get your way. I've worked as a dancer and while I'm personally not shy about saying "no," she might not be as assertive and didn't know how to deescalate the situation.

Why even rant about this on here when you could just commission a provider's services, through this very board you're using to complain on?

Don't bother dancers at work for extras. Period. We're there to get tipped for pole and floor work, to keep you company, and to sell you lap dances.

If you want full service, go hire someone who does that. Don't jeopardize someone's full time job. Nowhere in a dancer's job description does it say that we offer that. Pushing for that disrupts the ecosystem of that club and makes it an unsafe environment for those who don't want to offer extras at the club.

By the way, if we get caught and are fired for extras, they call the cops on us, file a police report and that's a sex offender conviction over our heads, all because you can't control yourself in an environment where you know sex is off the table.

Brianne, that was a great perspective: thanks for sharing. We sometimes get caught up in the fantasy and forget the real world ramifications of this hobby. I want you to take your post above and expand on it: write a “how to” post about interacting at the strip club from a dancer/providers point of view. If it is as eloquent and convicting as this post has been, it will help a lot of people.

It’s curious to me how a man would chase after a professional woman as if he stood an icicle’s chance in hell of connecting with her for something more than an hour under the sheets, especially after she’s already rejected him. And I find it sad that he would embarrass himself by publicizing it here.

OP, Brianne’s advice is solid. Listen to her.

"Don't bother dancers at work for extras. Period. We're there to get tipped for pole and floor work, to keep you company, and to sell you lap dances.

By the way, if we get caught and are fired for extras, they call the cops on us, file a police report and that's a sex offender conviction over our heads, all because you can't control yourself in an environment where you know sex is off the table. '"

This is evidently a VERY ymmv type of thing as in my experience 80% of the dancers I've met offer extras without me saying a word. p10 for example. EVERY girl I've ever taken into a cabana, extras without asking. There's certainly a few dancers I've met that i'd never even consider talking about extras but i'd say they are rare. Even in Vegas.

This varies a bit by club, but not by much.

P10 is essentially a brothel in my experience. Have a friend who was a manager there and he said the managers are well aware and don't care what goes on as long as you are selling cabana's and making customers happy and keeping it under the radar. I mean don't be a douche about how you approach it as some girls i'm sure won't take the advance but it's pretty clear pretty quickly that many of the girls are happy to party. Granted it's much cheaper to get one of the fine girls here. Have a lot of girls and waitresses i'm friends with there and the scene is pretty well known I guess by all of them.


As for the OP... The chick wasn't into you and was working you for as much cash as possible. Don't blame her one bit. Figure it out faster next time and cut your losses.

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Originally Posted by Lovinglifeinaustin

It’s curious to me how a man would chase after a professional woman as if he stood an icicle’s chance in hell of connecting with her for something more than an hour under the sheets, especially after she’s already rejected him. And I find it sad that he would embarrass himself by publicizing it here.

OP, Brianne’s advice is solid. Listen to her.

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We have a hobbyist that works in New Orleans/LakeCharles, almost 50 (he travels frequently and old enough to understand this business) that uses escort websites as match.com and when it backfires on him he complains about being used for his money. Dude, this is business !!!! He thinks some kind of personal dating/friendship is going to get him free/discounted pussy.
He doesn't have irish luck as the saying goes. Getting a 30 year old in the real world most likely wouldn't happen.

MY POINT IS ABOUT CONDUCTING BUSINESS THE RIGHT WAY

Another thread about a bad negotiator who whines about his lack of knowledge in striking a deal.

The moral of this story is: Get what you pay for, and don't pay for it until you get it.

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Originally Posted by Strix

"Don't bother dancers at work for extras. Period. We're there to get tipped for pole and floor work, to keep you company, and to sell you lap dances.

By the way, if we get caught and are fired for extras, they call the cops on us, file a police report and that's a sex offender conviction over our heads, all because you can't control yourself in an environment where you know sex is off the table. '"

This is evidently a VERY ymmv type of thing as in my experience 80% of the dancers I've met offer extras without me saying a word. p10 for example. EVERY girl I've ever taken into a cabana, extras without asking. There's certainly a few dancers I've met that i'd never even consider talking about extras but i'd say they are rare. Even in Vegas.

This varies a bit by club, but not by much.

P10 is essentially a brothel in my experience. Have a friend who was a manager there and he said the managers are well aware and don't care what goes on as long as you are selling cabana's and making customers happy and keeping it under the radar. I mean don't be a douche about how you approach it as some girls i'm sure won't take the advance but it's pretty clear pretty quickly that many of the girls are happy to party. Granted it's much cheaper to get one of the fine girls here. Have a lot of girls and waitresses i'm friends with there and the scene is pretty well known I guess by all of them.


As for the OP... The chick wasn't into you and was working you for as much cash as possible. Don't blame her one bit. Figure it out faster next time and cut your losses.

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I've noticed that's the norm in central and southern TX but that's not the norm nationally.

I don't have a problem with extras due to some complex about full service, otherwise I wouldn't be verified here! My reasoning is that many providers, myself included, will often dance or cam when we need a break from full service.

I'm not here to tell other women how to conduct their business. I will say that when dancers do start offering extras, it puts pressure on the rest of us who don't want to. The reason for that is that when enough of the club's income is sustained by these acts, it does create an environment similar to trafficking, or at least the acts feel as consensual for us in that context as they would in trafficking.

If I'm dancing at P10 and all of my colleagues are giving you fs in a Cabana, I risk losing my job AND I risk my ability to audition elsewhere in town if I don't follow suit.

It also skews the local market on this board.

So I get it. From your end, you're already there, you're horny and booking an escort can be time consuming. But most of the women offering you extras, at least in the 4 years I've danced, don't even want to. They're just trying to avoid being fired. They're not offering extras out of a desire to so much as they are in a response to the market.

In higher end clubs (say it with me: Palazio isn't a nice club. (It's nice compared to other clubs in ATX but objectively isn't that nice)) that have showers, licensed stylists on staff, catering for just the performers, extras WILL get you fired and charges pressed. I've watched it happen.

Tl;Dr: it's basically soft trafficking. Most of us aren't giving you extras because we want to. We can't just find a new job when most of us have a significant employment gap. So this forces dancers who signed up to just be entertainers into not entirely consensual sex work.

Soliciting at clubs gives us less rights and safety in those spaces and also makes local boards a cesspool by impacting the economy here.

Even if it's 20% more expensive for you, isn't it worth it for you to know that my boss isn't forcing me to give you this bj from the comfort of my private incall?

In any case, thank you for the Intel at that club. I was actually practicing to audition there. Confirmed with a friend that it's a low key brothel. I want to say in no uncertain terms that if any providers reading this thread read all of this and choose to work there, you did so making an informed decision! But personally, if I ever want to work at a brothel, I can spend a few hundred on the plane ticket and licensure to do that in Nevada. When I'm at a club, I'm on a break from this.

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Originally Posted by RamTheJam

Tell you this much, if it wasn't for the fact that Im slightly germaphobe.
I would have raped her butt in the Champagne room in a heartbeat.
Prick Tease vs Pussy Drunk?

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I feel like y'all missed this part...

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Originally Posted by CubanAva

I feel like y'all missed this part...

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The OP's original post is just yet another example of how screwed up the scene is in Austin. I'm glad I'm spending next week in Las Vegas. Been seeing the same three providers there for over the past 10 years.

Won't say that we are friends, but it's nice to reach out and get a timely reply of:

"Of course I remember you! When would you like to get together? It's been too long!"

I've tried to connect with about 6 local providers over the past 5 months with no joy - TCB is a lost art.

Ladies, I apologize for all abuse and BS you have to put up with on the boards. It can't be easy, sorting through all of the responses you get, trying to find the true gentlemen who will respect your boundaries and enjoy special time together for just what it is.

I view the boards now with amusement and disgust, with no expectation of meeting up with anyone on them.

Stay safe!

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Originally Posted by CubanAva

I feel like y'all missed this part...

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And here I was talking about respect for us as if anyone reading this even cares if we're being trafficked.

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Originally Posted by CubanAva

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Umm, yeah, that’s f’d up

The OP's post jumped the rails from WTF territory straight into Holy Shit Town. I'm not sure what's worse, the shocking admission of pussy desiccating lack of game, the complete inability to, ahem, read the room, the astounding lack of self-awareness, or frankly the extremely overt rapiness and stalkerness of it all.

You really got up at 4:30 in the morning to type this out and hit send my good Broceratops. This is a level of shitposting I thought went extinct with the demise of that other review board. Bravo?????

I wonder why he’s not verified yet. :doh::doh:

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Originally Posted by BrianneBanks

And here I was talking about respect for us as if anyone reading this even cares if we're being trafficked.

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You are really bending over backwards to make yourself a victim here. Yes, trying to get extras in a club is stupid. No, other girls doing shit in clubs doesn't force you to do anything. No, you're not trafficked if a strip club let's the girls do extras or looks the other way. Since, you know, you can leave. Exercise a little agency, eh?

Negatory, Killeen Informer. No one else read this as Brianne wanting to be a victim but rather to make sure those without a forum or a voice are represented.

I have broken the law in my job before at the request of my employer and suffered because of it when we were caught—I was thrown under the bus instead of the owner. Did I know it was wrong; yes. Could I have quit rather than doing the deed; yes. Would I have suffered a financial setback for my principles; yes. I did what most people would: do the thing and hope for the best. Make no mistake, we are all obligated to someone, and depending on our position, may be more trapped/trafficked in our situation than others. I think she’s asking for a little empathy and restraint when you’re at the club to not ask someone to do illegal things when her livelihood is at stake. No one deserves or asks for extra risk. Life, and this hobby, are hard enough.

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Originally Posted by 3daygetaway

Negatory, Killeen Informer. No one else read this as Brianne wanting to be a victim but rather to make sure those without a forum or a voice are represented.

I have broken the law in my job before at the request of my employer and suffered because of it when we were caught—I was thrown under the bus instead of the owner. Did I know it was wrong; yes. Could I have quit rather than doing the deed; yes. Would I have suffered a financial setback for my principles; yes. I did what most people would: do the thing and hope for the best. Make no mistake, we are all obligated to someone, and depending on our position, may be more trapped/trafficked in our situation than others. I think she’s asking for a little empathy and restraint when you’re at the club to not ask someone to do illegal things when her livelihood is at stake. No one deserves or asks for extra risk. Life, and this hobby, are hard enough.

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You can disagree all you want but with what she's saying she absolutely is playing the victim. Also every dude who has gone to strip clubs has experienced for themselves that plenty of girls happily and aggressively take on that extra risk in the club.

I have worked with actual victims of trafficking so I find it hilarious and sad when people here scream about it and people like you defend it. The lack of a spine doesn't count as coercion.

Wow. That is some serious dehumanizing, hate filled, objectification right there. I’m putting you on my do not see list

Thanks, folks for the RTMs.

Just remember, "you post it, you own it" applies.

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Originally Posted by 3daygetaway

Wow. That is some serious dehumanizing, hate filled, objectification right there. I’m putting you on my do not see list

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Disagreement is not dehumanizing and doesn't indicate hate. Disagreement also doesn't indicate objectification since it at least implies agency where as a victim narrative does not. You'll note what I promote encourages action whereas this process of calling yourself (or someone else) a victim implies they are acted upon instead.

And dude you can throw out as many buzzwords as you'd like but it still doesn't make an argument. It also won't change the fact you have to pay for it. As far as the do not see list... I'm not in the market for a fat socialist who likes to get pegged.

killeeninformer2 please keep it respectful or keep it off this board.

Disagreement does NOT need to include personal insults no matter what your thoughts on their intimate desires might be.

Respectfully, miss rose, i fail to see where informer is in the wrong. Ck posted a couple posts before you and felt no need to say anything.

While blunt and such he isnt exactly running about calling people names, just making observations.

Stewie,

He said "I'm not in the market for a fat socialist who likes to get pegged." Although I agree with him - it's not allowed.

Did he actually say whom he thought was a fat socialist?

Again, to be very clear, no disrespect to anyone.

Closed.