Pick the right ones, choose wisely.
My best advice dude. Pick a lady or ladies to share screening info with that you do not think are crazy. Maybe two. After that references only. But what you give up is based on your privacy and discretion.
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Kimberly Kisses
See someone who can verify you through employment......
Hell no. Way too intrusive. I sometimes see ladies that have screening forms on their websites and stuff and that a supreme epic fail. Never let your livelihood become compromised by seeking temporary means of satisfaction. Money will always prevail eventually with someone. Then you can just ignore the ones who initially gave you issues when you tried to see them without the use of real life work info. They didn’t jump on the grenade To see you so don’t reward them with an Medal of Honor and money with return service after the fact.
That’s instant blackmail material and opportunity when the money runs low. And I guarantee her she would not divulge the same reciprocally. Ask her where she works and see how utterly offended she gets.
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Kimberly Kisses
or another way besides provider refs.
You mean such as gut feelings, personal judgement, and experience to weed out the unsavories. Hopefully that doesn’t involve sharing a face or dick picture. Or the feel test in person to make sure you aren’t a cop. Cause that’s also not discreet and private. But also is a false sense of security. The dick picture is cool cause it doesn’t necessarily have to be mine. She’s not gonna match my sent dick pic to mine side by side when I arrive. And if she needed to she’s doing too much.
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Kimberly Kisses
Personally, references in general are not the best choice IMO, because I can't count the number of times the guy said "Well, if you contact so and so for a reference, she might get mad at me seeing you. "
How pathetic...
Make sure the people you are seeing are up to par on communication and references.
This can definitely happen I agree. If you pick the wrong ladies to use as references. The type thats easy to reach when you wanna see them, but suddenly hard to reach when you need to verify a reference to see a new lady through them. That’s selfish, stingy, and an unconfident provider that is twatswatting (male version of cockblocking). They might even offer you a better deal just to see them and cancel on who your trying to see. It gets savage.
But also some ladies generally don’t want to be contacted or bothered by other providers. So they won’t call a lady or contact her if they see you have ok’s from her usually on p411. And those ladies that do insist on a call over a private message or a email sometimes can get annoying for ladies too. Especially if they ask questions that are weird and not needed she could ask the client himself. (Is he fat, is his dick big, what does he look like, what kind of car does he drive, etc)
Some ladies generally need to call and talk to your references. Cause some ladies need other ladies advice to kindly “guide the member into their vagina for them”.........figuratively speaking Of course. And not all ladies have the time.
Gives no opinion. But is selective neutral.
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mathguy
gimme_that, I'm not totally sure what you mean.
Cant get more direct than what I asked you. But I’ll try.
I asked you plainly what screening practice are you not open to if a lady ask? That a very simple question you dodged because you don’t want to give an honest opinion cause you feel threatened by the response or opinion of other ladies more than likely. I don’t.
For me anything work related, requesting a face picture, and requesting a dick pic is too much info and I deem it very unnecessary for me to do screening wise. But that’s my basis of stuff I would not include under any circumstances. What is your stance? Your whole response didn’t include it.
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mathguy
I was only saying based on the quick skim
That means you didn’t read my post effectively to make an informed response to it cause you selectively pulled from it what you wanted or what you saw folks saying. Instead of getting or acknowledging the total point of what I was making.
Which lead you to assume..................
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mathguy
quick skim along wirh what women were saying it appeared you were suggesting "proper ways" of them conducting business.
Nope and nope. Those three ladies jumped to conclusions based on my opinion of what I would not do. Since you didn’t read what I said in full being admittedly uninformed in your own words, you chose to be in instant unison on the side of the ladies who have responded thus far; but never gave your personal take on your own comfortable non preferred screening methods used upon you and the methods you are not open too. And its in topic because the original poster found himself in a place where he wanted to verify again. And was seeking ways how.
That way you can’t claim and/or deflect from answering when you say stuff like this........
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mathguy
As for the question about what I believe is acceptable screening information to request? I'm not sure it's terribly relevant to what we were discussing.
It’s incredibly relevant to know actually. Mostly because you chose not to have a stance on it. And no opinion. Shoot even the ladies who responded to the thread so far didn’t say specifically what they feel all clients should surrender to them info wise when screening. Only their gripes on what I said. Which is easy to do if they aren’t specific and don’t have a basis to the contrary. Some guys are into a bdsm and being dominated so they will do as instructed in all cases. You left no stance so I assumed the same.
Example:
It’s an “all lives matter” situation for you versus “black lives matter” debate. You don’t get the basic premise of the message and feel that being neutral is the topic of conversation. When being neutral wasn’t the main issue at all. It’s the preference and method of the message given. Best example I can give you. If you don’t get that, you won’t get this. I mean your giving your view, but not watching the news and actions of a few for clarification on the phrase and what it means.
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mathguy
I think when you said "contrived" you meant to say "deduced", "ascertained", or "imagined"? Contrived typically means flimsy or weak in substance (it's also not really used as a verb; rather it's an adjective).
Nope I used contrived very appropriately in this case. And it’s very much commonly used as a verb. Look in a thesaurus or dictionary before you make a claim like that. See another uniformed response. All cause you skimmed and scanned with cliff notes in hand.
Contrive in verb form means = “to make, improvise or devise. see invent or create”
Like those ladies did in this thread claiming I don’t have p411, claiming I’m poor, and other stupid irrelevant stuff they created (contrived) and patted each other on the back for when they don’t know me and haven’t met me. All cause I have a stance on a topic in question. They have done it in multiple threads I have posted in on this site and others. These same three. They did it with others who don’t agree with them, and they are now trying with me.
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mathguy
The hobbyist decides what he is comfortable with and a provider decides what she is comfortable with in order to feel safe........empathy.............but the bottom line as a hobbyist is still that if you are not comfortable giving her what she wants then you should move on, and do it politely. You should both be polite to each other in all circumstances.
So do you think they were polite in this thread? Read their responses. If so your delusional just like them. Or working in tandem. Who knows.
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mathguy
I will say this. I do think people, hobbyists and providers, generally speaking, are a tad more worried than they should be about sharing various screening info, pics, other data, addresses, etc... The only somewhat seriously valid concern for guys is with a marriage or very involved relationship or family situation to worry about. Otherwise there isn't much either party can do with the data.
Spoken from a guy with no stance or opinion on what he would reveal to a lady he was seeking companionship with. But it seems your overall mood is just do what she says. You have nothing to lose.
And contrary to your belief there is a lot ladies can do with data collected. The ramifications on her side will not cripple her business. Because guys will still see them long as she hasn’t picked the wrong dude to mess with. There’s a lady and agency banned from another local board here right now for just a year because they chose to “out” someone’s personal info. The penalty was just a year not to post. They still advertise though in other places and guys are willingly sending info. More power to them.
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mathguy
The guy will be blackballed if he does. The girl is at even more risk b/c if she does something deleterious then her livelihood and business are likely ruined. Who is going to do that?
it’s already happening. The business of those lady’s isn’t ruined. Easily fixable for ladies without much residual damage when they expose or out info. They change there name, take on a new persona, etc. guys will choose from there. Cycle restarts. Guys do not have the same luxury.
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mathguy
Even if they got super pissed? It's just not going to happen 99.9% of the time. The main worry for guys would be if they are married or romantically involved and hence they are "cheating".
Its happening presently, before, and in the future.
I find it quite peculiar you stress the worry of why guys wouldn’t want to give certain real world info but still have no stance your self. But you sound like you would give all your personal info to ladies with extreme confidence and no question. If you feel differently your not conveying different.
Getting outed begats: (possibly)
1. relationships breaking up and maybe crimes of passion attached.
2. peoples livelihood and job in jeopardy due to morality clauses.
3. divorce which is costly
4. custody of kids or denial.
And yes guys can still book ladies. I mean the main catalyst is money. Money doesn’t buy love, but it definitely helps to get your foot in the door and open opportunity. And definitely is an asset to take when love is exposed as different.
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mathguy
There is built-in protection from both sides b/c if you are shot in the back the shot party essentially gets an automatic free shot to the back of the party who fired first. Who would engage in western style standoffs if it always meant both parties die (by definition)? :noidea:
Yep the protection is based on the info you give. And your comfort level attached to what you give for takes. Again I tell the original poster and others to choose wisely. Don’t hara kiri yourself.