Is it rude or just part of the game?
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Is it rude or just part of the game?
We can get up to speed on this one real quick dude...
Ladies: Rude
Men: Part of the game
Hopefully Passion will reply with insight and wisdom here.
He doesn't do wisdom and insight. Only basking in his glory and negative comments on reviews.
It's all about your approach
I negotiate all of the time in my RW endeavors.
One of my favorite rhetorical devices to throw in at nut-cutting time is - "What's a hundred percent of zero?". The answer, of course, is zero. That one has worked very well for Ol' JS. IJS. :pimp:
Peace, Love, and #BHILF
JS
Gentlemen don't negotiate or haggle. You have to make a calculated decision if the provider is worth what she is asking based on all the information you know on her.
OBTW, how many hobbyists calculate in a 15% tip? If you give the server at a restaurant that as a minimum, why would you not give it to an exemplary provider who just rocked your world?
Just sayin'....
Couldn't agree more. Not always the best thing to do, depending on the situation, who you are dealing with, what they are or are not going through, etc... but it does depend on your approach. Totally. It's like I said about the other stuff in another thread before, such as when it comes to intimacy, what's okay, what's not, being a good lover, taking her cues, listening to her, feeling her, and understanding what that body language (verbalization or not) means. It's an art form. The more you do it and the more you practice, the better you will be at it. Same for this stuff too.
However, if you are a misogynist, have chauvinist tendencies, or are just an asshole, nothing in this world is going to fix that until you take the time to fix yourself. That will do a TON more for ALL your romantic encounters (hobby and private life) and in fact ALL of your interactions with people everywhere....period.
So in public this is a silly thread to make because any girl with a bit of business acumen will not respond publicly going "negotiate with me!" because every dude will do so. Unless their business is really slumping. It also is going to invite attack by various white knights.
However I would be very surprised if the OP had not already received a PM from a few girls who do say they'd be willing to negotiate. That's likely what he was going for.
Negotiating absolutely happens. I don't engage in it often because I do this hobby to relax which haggling would not help. But if a girl already has a room and isn't going to be doing anything for a 2 hour stretch a large amount of girls will take Starfish's offer up there. After all even a lower donation is better than the nothing they would get in that time slot.
...I have never employed that particular rhetorical device in hobby world negotiating. It's a little too edgy given the obvious sensitivity on display on this and other similar threads. I only use it in the RW to negotiate real estate and subcontractor deals. I just offered it up on this thread to make my point.
Most of the time, I get offers to repeat at favorable prices. I take the advantageous offers up and the lady and I then stick on that price point going forward. There is no more to it than that.
I do negotiate when I get hit up out of the blue by new gals and prior acquaintances. If I'm getting hit up when I'm just minding my own biznass, I believe that provides me the prerogative to tactfully negotiate.
To sum it up, I know for a fact that a manscaped, hygienic, and polite hobbyist does not have to pay rack rates to get his joint jacked. I'm not gonna call the dudes that pay rack rates suckers, but I'll certainly be thinking it... :pimp:
That's Ol' JS's $0.02.
Peace, Love, and #BHILF
JS
You definitely shouldn't negotiate a lower price AFTER you've agreed on an appointment, doubly so after arriving.
As for tips, you don't normally tip people who set their own price.
Happy Friday,
If the asking price is reasonable in my eyes I don't negotiate at all.
If the asking price is not reasonable in my eyes then I negotiate and if the provider responds aggressively that she doesn't negotiate, I move on. If the provider ask me what my hobby budget is, I let her know and she either accepts or denies in which I either see her or move on.
Everything is negotiable it just comes down to how you negotiate and how receptive they are.
Just be truthful , honest and nice about it:)
It's that simple.
^ LOL yep :giggles: haha
It all depends on where you eat! My position is that negotiating is just a more acceptable word for an unacceptable hobby practice-haggling. Personally, I believe haggling is unprofessional and stand by the notion that most clients would not be able to out negotiate a sex worker unless leveraging a provider weakness such as financial distress or a big bank.
Negotiating with a sex worker is like playing blackjack. You might win but it is highly probable you are gonna lose on May levels in the long run. If your hobby game is on point and your choice of companion is a good fit there usually is no need for haggling...I mean negotiating. Negotiating is haggling and the perfect pathway to silver bracelets and a staycation at government expense. Change my mind!
It's not part of mine. Some ladies are very open to it though (some publicly and some only privately).
Sadly, not every client or provider has "business acumen". Not a judgement but rather an observation. The art of negotiating is a learned competency that does not come naturally to many.
And some just don't do it because they don't have to or want to.
Many things can be true at once. Just another...observation.
Sadly, some clients think that other clients need business acumen to play in this realm.
It’s a hobby, not a business.
Just an observation.
I disagree. I suggest that a hobby used to generate revenue and profit is a business by default. The only question is will that business be capable of generating an acceptable level of profit for the owner.. Show me a list of providers who do not charge for their services an I will concede that those individuals are true hobbyists.
Westley, please read my previous post more closely. I was referring to clients, not providers. Clients are not looking to generate revenue or profit. At least I’m not. Generating revenue and profit is the goal of the seller, the provider. So I am with you there. Providers with decent business acumen will probably succeed.
I have yet to meet a provider that would honor my 40% off coupon for services from brake check.
Me myself, I don't negotiate with any lady. If they say they're available and I don't have enough, I kindly let them know I only have said amount so I can't see them. I'll wait until I have the right amount. Unless they just say ok fine whatever u have. But that's rare because I normally make appointments.
LOL! Try this...
https://home.ourhome2.net/showthread...eed-a-machanic
So, you're suggesting that negotiating with a provider is a "perfect pathway" to an arrest!? I'm dead. LOL! :bowdown:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/79...f473e8d6b0.jpg
Whatever. :jackoff:
Peace, Love, and #BHILF
JS
I make it a point never to haggle with anyone who is ultimately going to have her jaw wrapped around my unit. You never know when someone is going to get fed up with the business and decide to go out in a blaze of glory.
Seriously, if I'm especially impressed with someone in a 1-hour session, I might ask what my rate for 2 hours would be. That's about the extent of my haggling. It's almost guaranteed to be a better price point on a per-hour basis, because it effectively reduces her time to get dolled up by half.
Ok, you got it like that. However, in many cases one is either a seller or buyer unless services are provided "free". Free usually means sufficient Goodwill has been generated to cover costs, someone else is paying or one has deferred payment. Moreover, when one initiates a contract for services one usually generates revenue. Just saying.
I still have that 40% off coupon from Brake Check..