From now on to the ones that ask me for BBFS. I will start blasting you in coed and you will automatically get blocked. Learn how to have some respect. This crap is getting old.
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From now on to the ones that ask me for BBFS. I will start blasting you in coed and you will automatically get blocked. Learn how to have some respect. This crap is getting old.
Blasting someone would not be a good recommendation for this site. E may be a different story.
Block button would be better and, RTM would be the best option since you clearly state on your signature that you don't do BBFS and therefore would be considered harassment.
While i feel sympathetic for you ariel, i dont believe either action will serve you well.
I totally understand the frustration of having to deal with stupid people and the problems that follow them. I definitely would put them on ignore status, some guys get off on pushing limits, and others get off on pissing you lovely ladies off. Either way its a game and shouldn’t be taken that seriously.
Ultimately you will make your own choices, i just think blasting them in public may have a negative effect on your buisness flow because people may worry about your discretion.
Excellent advice Stewie. OP would do well to follow it.
Riiight...Because we should protect shitty predatory behavior by the gentlemen who are at this point are totally out of control because of the years and years of them them collectively getting away with this shit because it seems the general consensus from mongers is that we should keep our mouths shut about it. Hence the massive problem us ladies are experiencing now and you guys are too dumb to see the problem that discretion in this case doesn't lie with the provider, it lies with the indiscreet and disgusting behaviors of these disgusting men who pollute and drag down our community. Yet you keep protecting them in your own way while taking time out to police providers. Like I notice not much has been said about how shitty dealing with this must be or how it taints the community. The answer seem to be, it's part of the deal and "mute" it if you don't like it. Fuck that. This entire market is different than it was just 6 months ago. Predatory men are not valuable clients, and predatory men are not valuable contributors to our community. I hope they get shamed and blacklisted to hell and cycle their vile selves right off the boards with their little simpering worms between their legs.
Every time these bums pull this shit, the screening gets tougher and the deposits get higher and the providers get more burned out and leave or suspicious of all of you, and all that succeeds in doing is making it tougher for good clients. How many good and honest providers have we hemorrhaged at this point? So tell me how keeping quiet about these creeps is good for anyone? Why on earth would a good man want to see the bad ones keep being empowered to do what they do? What a ridiculous proposition. Think about what you're saying instead of droning the same regurgitated rhetoric that has been the norm for too goddamn long and hasn't benefited anyone. Good men want to see these guys go bye-bye. If a client wouldn't see a provider for trying to clean up the community and shine a light on the vile ones for the betterment of everyone, then he's a shitty client too and not worth seeing either.
P.S. Just as an example. I have been in this industry for almost 4 years now and my DNS list was about 135 lines long. In the last three months it has almost tripled to 370+. I had to hire an assistant to filter through what has now become a veritable cesspool of an industry. Us providers are having a massive problem right now. Like the duck metaphor, all may look the same to you men who aren't on the other side of this mess, but the feet are pedaling furiously. Things have changed, get with the program, it's time to stop protecting this nonsense.
Thank you Miss V for explaining and telling how it really is. You guys will never know what we have to deal with on daily basis.
I think you should do what works best for you. Although I feel empathy for the issue you are raising I also see the overarching issue in many facets.
For example you also list “Sorry no AA” I have often messaged ladies to see if there could be an exceptions. It has only worked out negatively once. Most of the time it was related to a bad past experience. I would have missed out on some wonderful ladies if I did not inquire. But again do what’s best for you.
@MissV it has been too long since I’ve seen you. I may need a deep tissue massage. I’ve been working out a lot lately and my shoulders could use some work.
What the hell does my “sorry no AA” have to do with this BBFS issue we are having. Nothing so please stay on topic or make your own thread!!!!
Very Well said Miss V!!
If you are dumb enough to ask a lady who boldly stated in her signature, ads, website, and bios that she does not offer BBFS you deserve to have your handle blasted. Ladies get blasted for old/fake pics, bait and switch shit service, poor attitude/tcb so why should the shit clients be immune to this. Clearly you can't read and deserve the shit that comes your way. I've seen 2 providers openly post offering BBFS. If you want to raw dog a ****** contact one of those ladies and stop begging us providers who dont to provide it to you.
Exactly SweetArielRae!!
@shortround not sure why a lady not seeing AA clients has anything to do with BBFS. Not all of us girls have such policies but it's her right as a provider and her body. Not seeing a certain race and not allowing a client to raw dog are not even on the same wave length. If she chooses not to see AA clients thats her right and if she has it posted then you need to respect her wishes and move on. Begging her to see you or to make an exception for you doesn't sit well for most providers. It shows us you like to try to bend the rules and not follow them. Her choice in not seeing AA clients doesnt put her at risk physically. Her not offering BBFS is also her right and if she posts that she does not offer it then do not contact her asking her to. BBFS puts her and the whole community at risk. You dont catch an std etc by seeing someone of a certain race. You can and most likely will with repeated BBFS.. Her choice to not see a certain race and choosing not to expose herself to an std etc are not the same.
Thank you Brittany. I honestly could not have said it as nice as You did.
I think admin put in the block option in messages, so you don't have to deal with them. I wounld like to think most guys read the bio before scheduling.
I don't think that "these guys" should continuously harass you about it. Harassment should get them booted from the site, but they'll just create another account.
I never expect or want BBFS because of disease issues. I came sexual active in the 80's and AIDS was some scary shit before more was known about it. I don't DATY because of safety reasons.
BBBJ is ok with me and that might be a double standard, but I'm less likely to contract something in my view.
The cheap guys might be the ones asking for it, since the easy sites are gone, so maybe a price hike is in order for you to dismay it.
P411 is also an avenue for better clients I would think.
I'm always picky in that I like to see at least one picture of the providers face.
Hi Ariel,
My point is even if someone clearly states publicly a position they may feel differently in private. You clearly state in your signature “No SS Greek or BBFS Sorry no AA“ I am say that even though you stated something publicly I would still be tempted to ask you about the AA item in private. Btw I have been tempted your pics are amazing.
Anyway do what ever works for you. Blast names, don’t blast, block, don’t block, or just vent your frustration. In the end it’s all up to you. You are your own gatekeeper. Others will do the same. Now I digress.
I wish you the best play safe and enjoy your day.
Most of my messages come directly through text. The sad thing is I’ve seen this one person before and yesterday it actually struck a nerve.
WinnDixie you’re such a sweetheart
Hi Britttany,
I can agree with you as well with the exception of Begging. Begging is not one of my kinks. I’d also make a horrible sub.
However I love your pics as well. Women with curves are my weakness.
I used the word begging because to me in a way thats what it is. Approaching a woman who has otherwise expressed that she has no interest in seeing x, y and z and asking her to see you even though you know she has already said to not contact is begging. You are begging her to see you even though she doesnt see AA. You are begging her to give you a chance..give you the time of day. You know she has no interest as its already stated yet you still try to anyways. You are begging her to make an exception and break her rules. She said I don't do this and this or see this type of client. You being AA knowing she doesnt see AA clients and ignoring what she said and then contacting her anyways.. is you begging her to see you.
Although I disagree with your reasoning you’re definitely entitled to your opinion. I enjoy having the opportunity to reconsider a position when given new information.
Anyway back on topic. Don’t send Ariel request for services that she does not offer got it.
I would have thought this information would have already been shared on the ladies only forum. If not, why not? Miss V should share her extensive list with her fellow companions. All companions should share their DNS lists. That kind of information sharing protects all of us.
Ms. V, i did say that I understand the frustration, I recognize that there are some terrible people running around in our little hobby.
I also will not make excuses for them, nor did i in my previious post.
I want to see this hobby become easier on you ladies, but im not going to visit a lady that puts names out unless A criminal act has been committed. I value my privacy. I dont want any ladies telling secrets, and i do the same.
All my earlier post was meant for was to possibly provide some perspective, take it, leave it, i truly dont care. But mark my words, youll be shooting yourself in the foot. It may be unfair and unfortunate but i believe it to be the truth.
The Ladies do share their information in the powder room. Miss V was giving an example and making a point. I think you missed it.
Stewies post went before mine - I was responding to Life's post.
This is literally the shit these women are talking about. If she says she doesn't offer certain services or to certain people, don't go asking for it anyway. That's the upsetting part. You're either not reading the information, or you are and just blatantly ignoring it- WHICH IS WORSE. Assuming that we'll change our minds if you DM us is shitty, disregarding our preferences is shitty. Stop being shitty.
Yesssss exactly!
I respect your opinion as well. One response would be is that I’ve learned to not assume anything until it is confirmed. I have know idea if the lady even has access to the account. I’m no longer surprised when a lady says “oh my friend set that up for me”
Btw I’m not into skat either. I’m pretty standard in my play.
Back to the the OPs post do what you like. It will all work out.
For what it's worth, I think that a couple of important things have come up here:
1) There has to be a mutual agreement. If a gal doesn't want BB or AA, we need to respect that. I'm not AA and I don't know what that's like. As an Anglo type, I tend to prefer other Anglo types. But there are times that I like to dip into the chocolate or browner varieties. Guys like to choose between varieties so that we get that sense of novelty.
It's different for girls. If a gal doesn't like AA for whatever reason, should she really be required? I tend to prefer gals that are more open-minded and might accept AA in the right circumstances, but honestly it's not a show-stopper for me. The gals have to decide who they are willing to see.
One gal advertises openly that if you are bald and have a moustache, don't bother contacting her. I was interested in her, but she obviously wasn't interested in me, so I didn't try to contact her. I don't think it would be begging if I had, but maybe in a sense, since I have so many other options. I know that's not the same dynamic if you are AA, that's just my take on it.
2) BBFS may be more widespread than we like to think. Still we have the capacity to think. A lot of us have had an accident, and if you have, you need to get tested regularly. You need to get tested regularly anyway, maybe even take a break from the hobby if you think that you might be a risk to others.
This may be self-evident to you. If not or even otherwise, definitely don't contact the non-BB gals asking for BB. I know that the cover robs us of a lot of joy, but there are other ways to have fun. Mr Happy doesn't really care whether it's hand, mouth, or kitty. He is happy either way.
From my experience most of it is coming from the board regular "Monger" who all of a sudden thinks we're desperate for money, and can manipulate us into acts we would have never considered before. These guys are the most opportunistic and vile and always have been and now they think they're empowered. Which is hilarious because demand hasn't diminished a bit, but we sure have lost a lot of reputable providers. And yes, we have absorbed a lot of Craigslist and BP guys, but generally if they had the astuteness to seek and join an established board when those sites went down, they are looking to be real clients and are putting in the time to learn the ropes. They may ask silly questions or be generally more time consuming to deal with but again, that's more like a growing pain then the mongers who are avaricious. Probably 2/3 of the names on my DNS are names almost everyone here would easily recognize.
This isn't a matter of opinion. "Clearly stating publicly a position" is just that- CLEARLY STATING. If we clearly state something, we mean it. Assuming we might not mean what we said is rude. Ignoring our CLEARLY STATED POSITION is the rude and disrespectful. Pretty much all ladies want is for men to be respectful.
Hi Rose
Thank you for your reply. When you state “we” you imply that you are speaking for more than just yourself. I do not assume that you are speaking for all ladies. As wonderful as all ladies are they are all very unique. Each lady provides a service that works for them.
Some ladies don’t list a thing and say text for info. Some are adamant about what is listed. Some copy paste what other ladies have posted. Also some may be managed and don’t know what is posted.
So if I send a note to ask and it is found offensive then we just both move on. This has only happened once and even then she was open to meeting but I think she had some kind of superiority fetish. I was intrigued but had to pass. I can’t even watch humiliation porn.
When I see in interesting lady I will always shoot my shot. Someone saying no just slides off me like a good lube.
As I said before Ariel will most likely do what’s best for her regardless of what is stated by anyone else on the board.
I have often wondered if posts like this are effective in reducing unwanted requests. Has there been a noticeable difference?
Thanks!
It's probably not. It's like when someone gets pissed at something random that happened to them in real life and then they go on Facebook to tell the world about it (e.g. I can't believe these men these days are so [insert generalization here]!!!!" There will probably be another bbfs post in September. In my field, I also have clients and they always ask dumbass questions that I already put the answers to on the website. It's just part of any job that has clients especially if there's instructions that have to be read. It annoys me, but I just move on. It's probably moreso in escorting because it's an illegal profession though and there are a lot of shady clients. Seems to make more sense to just block people but whatever.
This is just what were are women on here sale there body's for money no strings attached but sounds like some of the
You want your cake an eat it too? Let's be honest we are all here for to things money an sex some men are Tru perverts an some of you women can't go a min with out cock in you some form or another but if bbfs is not for than say no some guy's are pigs some are sport fucking some have a addiction but you women have the same problem we men do but if a man comes to see you you know he wants some freak shit but if you don't like then tell him an tell your pump this is not for you ladies you must like an love what you do but don't blast a man because he ask for something you don't feel comfortable about because there a lot of women that will do exactly what what he ask for the all Mitty dollar is undefeated ladys
This is just what were are women on here sale there body's for money no strings attached but sounds like some of the
You want your cake an eat it too? Let's be honest we are all here for to things money an sex some men are Tru perverts an some of you women can't go a min with out cock in you some form or another but if bbfs is not for than say no some guy's are pigs some are sport fucking some have a addiction but you women have the same problem we men do but if a man comes to see you you know he wants some freak shit but if you don't like then tell him an tell your pump this is not for you ladies you must like an love what you do but don't blast a man because he ask for something you don't feel comfortable about because there a lot of women that will do exactly what what he ask for the all Mitty dollar is undefeated ladys
Lmao big big bear. I was just trying to read that crap to and couldn’t make of it. Sounds and looks like an elementary kid wrote it.
FYI it’s worked wonders. I’m not gonna hold back on anything. So if you like BBFS and ask me for it. I’m definitely gonna tell it. It’s plain and simple on my side. If I clearly state I don’t offer certain things then I mean it. It’s not a damn game to see if I still offer crap that I actually don’t offer.
Really not sure why, but when some people get behind keyboards they often lose the ability to impart info and debate ideas without rancor, cynicism, or contempt of other opinions. This hot topic, no matter where it's posted on the board, inevitably brings out the worst and deteriorates. I believe this is the only remaining open public thread on the subject.
Since it is getting a little testy in here, I'm going to make a preemptive statement: If ANY discussion gets too out of control, if the arrows turn into missiles and the thread becomes a combat zone, that doesn't align with the respectful and cooperative environment H2 is trying to foster, plus keeps staff too busy responding to RTMs.
Play nice, peeps, please. Leave personal insinuations and insults on the post editing floor. You can agree to disagree politely, or you can take it to private messages. Thanks.
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