Just out of curiosity, are there actually providers that do it raw? Like, is that a service that any of y’all actually do? I always thought it was a myth.
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Just out of curiosity, are there actually providers that do it raw? Like, is that a service that any of y’all actually do? I always thought it was a myth.
porn stars that uses PreP does bareback....
There used to be a few that openly advertised BBFS on ECCIE but I haven't seen any do so on here, with good reason... and you're probably aware that a lot of providers have in their signature lines/ads that if you ask about it, you'll get blocked.
All this to say, you can try searching for it elsewhere, but on OH2, ask off the record if you absolutely must.
look closer, bby....
they hide "BBFS" via tags, and are full blown advertising it on the DL
List of OH2 Ads Tagged "BBFS"
Rosiedaie has been openly advertising BBFS FOREVER.
I'm really shocked she's even still alive.
It just makes you stronger and thus you live longer.
I'm 847 years old and I haven't skipped a beat.
...is always, and I mean always, an awesome look. Yep, Ol' JS definitely loves him some righteous indignation!
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Peace, Love, and #BHILF
JS
i looked at the list what do you mean by tags? sorry for the stupid question I would just like to know what I'm missing in the ad that says bbfs is accepted. maybe I missed it. I had a stripper in Corpus offer to come home with me one night. I had considered it cause she was hot, until she said "don't worry I can't get pregnant" lol pass. That told me that she didn't use protection, and I don't need something ajax can't take off.
Well, this is an outlier. Somebody who actually did not just ignore the flashing "Check Pussy" light. Based on my observations many providers urge clients to check their website because this is where the "not secret full service menu" can be offered with minimal expense of social capital and implicit bias by ****** colleagues. I find it odd that ******s that are not receptive to feedback on their "business" practices are often the first ones to condemn their ****** colleagues for offering BBFS. It is a viable service offering based on client demand and has created a competitive advantage for some providers especially the low volume providers. Just my $2.00.
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Well, this is an outlier. Somebody who actually did not just ignore the flashing "Check Pussy" light. Based on my observations many providers urge clients to check their website because this is where the "not secret full service menu" can be offered with minimal expense of social capital and implicit bias by ****** colleagues. I find it odd that ******s that are not receptive to feedback on their "business" practices are often the first ones to condemn their ****** colleagues for offering BBFS. It is a viable service offering based on client demand and has created a competitive advantage for some providers especially the low volume providers. Just my $2.00.
Topic relocated to Coed as more appropriate for serious discussion here than in the RHZ "flirt" forum.
Carry on. -- FIH/staff
not a stupid question x
scroll down to find "Tags for this Thread" under the "Reply to Thread" link:
look at this screenie below...
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Tags for this Thread highlighted xoxo
"Tags" mean that one could enter a particular word - example: bbfs - in the search function and find all posts to which members have attached that word.
I completely forgot that we have that ability! Thanks for the reminder!
(any tags I use will NOT include bbfs)
ah ok thanks, i learned something new today.
So which came first:
Provider offered client BBFS? or
Client asked provider to go without cover?
LMAO!!
Considering the fact that providers have a need to remain healthy to continue working and guys hate wearing condoms......hmmmm....I wonder
Hah. Seriously? A myth? Hehe :tongue:
No no no. Not a myth.
Do many openly advertise? Hell no. Nor should they.
Do some advertise it? Well, yea, some do and they really shouldn't :/
There is no one that is immune to the heat and moments of passion at certain unique times or encounters, or people that become long term clients/lovers, or even "de facto" bf/gf, or fwb's.... And, yes, I do mean *absolutely no one*. No one.
Now, that said, are there those who (both sides, male/ female) are very very very ardent, discriminating, and safe about what and who they do various things with? Absolutely. Totally. Though no one is completely immune OR unwilling given the right circumstances for various activities. It's the same with more benign activities too. Like girls who say they absolutely will never bbbj or dfk (or never have).... Hehe. Yeaaaa suuuuure :tongue: That is never ever true literally 100% of the time for every single guy/encounter. Maybe a lot, yes, but not all.
And for the guys don't take this to mean you can be a douchebag and hound a girl over and over to do whatever it is you want. You can't and you shouldn't. It doesn't work that way and you are an ass if you try. If she is willing to do it (whatever "it" is), trust me, *she* will make it very obvious without you having to do much of anything.
You just do what you do and go with the flow. Meaning, respect her stated boundaries but if you are getting it on, for example, and she is quite obviously arching and pushing her butt and V in toward your finger, even though she states "no FIV" in ads (or reviews indicate it's a no go), but she herself is literally causing your finger to go in deeply, she is getting very wet, moaning, not stopping you at all, etc... She is even the one that positioned herself so that your finger would be right there.... well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this door is open for *you*. This does not mean you push boundaries though. If you are a good lover, pay attention, listen to her body and noises, feel them, the more you practice, you will understand and see the subtle hints of what is ok and what is not. Again, that does NOT mean you push boundaries. It's an art form and as you get better you will know and she will also make it known. Just be respectful. Be a good guy. Be super clean, hygienic, and tidy. Be nice. If you connect on a level that most guys don't get, or she is super attracted to you, or you have a certain pheromone that draws her in, or she is just super horny, or any combination of those then awesome! :twothumbs: Chemistry is chemistry and it's no different in the world of hobbying.
Let me ask you this. If you were dating a girl in RL and were hitting it off and maybe going to have sex when you get back to your house would you each give a quiz about what is ok and what is not before touching each other? Haha. No. However, that doesn't mean anal is "ok" with her. And you won't know that until you get with her. It might be ok with some guys though just not you. Depending on the connection and intimacy. Point is, chemistry is chemistry, and money or not, it doesn't change what we are willing to do with our bodies or what we are willing to "share" of our bodies with another person (whether male or female). Some girls you would take home and eat their ass. Other girls you wouldn't even want to eat their pussy once you got down there or got into it and you would basically do the 'ol whoops let's go back up here I was just kissing & teasing you kinda move (haha lol). It's different for everyone.
This is one reason why incredibly and excruciatingly detailed reviews are pretty silly. All you really need to know is if she's a frigid cold fish that just lays there or won't kiss *any* guy or won't won't won't etc.... (i.e. her list of "dont's" is way way longer than her list of "do's"). It's simply different for everyone though.
I can say everything I've said here with absolute bonafide experience on various activities that were supposed to be "no's/dont's" with different girls over the years. It's different for everyone. That's intimacy, period. Same if you go out on a date and spend $125-$200 wining and dining this chick or buying drinks all night and she turns out to be a prudish dead fish that you are sorry you ever invited home. Same same. That's life. We are always paying for something OR giving our time for something. Always. They don't all turn out as home runs. However, that also doesn't mean a double or triple base hit, or even a single base hit isn't quite nice. ;)
(Abbreviated version) You put the D in the P and you get the C.
Well, nice try, but not quite.
The cliff notes version is at the top of the reply, more or less:
"Nope, not a myth. Yes it does happen."
I find only that little bit lacking in tons of information which might be interesting to some. Though if you really just want that piece or don't want to read then there ya go. :thumb:
Well I can say that hobby and in my personal life I have never done BBFS. I'm not a mom and have no kids and have never let any partner play with out a condom period. Yup that's the truth, no bs... cover is always required. Nope I have never felt the desire to fuck with out a condom, nor have I been to heated that I can't stop and grab one.no excuses for me. Wrap it up or find see someone else.
when I was a teen, I never cared for a condom and never used them. I also never got anyone pregnant or any std's. I will never pick a chick up at a bar or see a provider without one though. I am not a kid anymore. I have been with many people and I'm sure the providers and girls at the bar that I don't even know their names, have been as well. I have been straight up offered to just take the condom off by quite a few providers that say no bbfs. I am not going to do that though because I highly doubt that I am just so amazing that I am the one client that is an option with. I do wish std's were not a thing though. Condoms suck and I usually have a hard enough time getting mine without a cover (at home with wife, on that rare occasion).
You can barely feel SKYN BRAND ELITE ☺
Seriously especially if you have the female slide it on and get it firmly positioned with her mouth..all sloppy and wet before the fun ☺
:wtf:
The flashing "Check Pussy" warning lamp is not a myth. It does exist! Here is the proof by MG right here:
"Some girls you would take home and eat their ass. Other girls you wouldn't even want to eat their pussy once you got down there or got into it and you would basically do the 'ol whoops let's go back up here I was just kissing & teasing you kinda move (haha lol)."
See! There you have it. The exact moment in a civilian or hobby related sexual encounter when the brightly red glowing "Check Pussy" lamp starts flashing like SOS in morse code signaling the male to cover up and/or make a appointment to get tested.
Yes it is. And I’m a happy partaker. I reward good girls. Hmu if you offer it.
Come on, let's finally get this stuff out in the open. BBFS (bareback full service or fucking without a condom) is it the kiss of death or the ultimate GFE?
Before we go any further, no names nor hints will be dropped. Don't like it, put me on ignore and move on to another thread. I don't want any PM's asking for more information, even from those who assume we are tight. It won't happen and any person who does this is wasting their time.
I'll never forget my first ever BBFS (BB for the rest of this post) session. I was with a lady in a hotel and we had done a lot of foreplay. I was on top and felt her slide her legs open, things just happened and it just slid in. My first thoughts were oh my God, what did I just do? I heard the song City of Brotherly Love from the end of the movie Philadelphia sang by Neil Young go off in my head. I mean I had just banged a super titted milf BB and at the time it was way beyond cool. I came deep in her twice. Of course when I got home I started doing computer searches (this was in 1999 so no google or any really good search engines) on how HIV was contacted. Looking at the government sites, I guess I was just given my death sentence, however there was a site called 'thebody.com' and it didn't give such bad news. I guess this is like a hurricane headed to our part of the world. One weatherman says Lake Charles and the other states Galveston. I choose to watch the weatherman who says Lake Charles.
One thing I got from thebody.com is that the chances of getting HIV from a HIV+ lady through vaginal intercourse with me being the insertive partner was 5/10,000 or 1/2,000. Of course lady luck could give me the finger and that 1/2,000 could happen on the very first.
I saw this lady several times and never once used a condom.
Let's see, at last count it was 23 different ladies from 3 countries and most were done on multiple occasions. Some were done many times.
How did it happen that I saw so many ladies BB? Hell, I don't know, to be completely honest, I really don't know. I can say this with complete truthfulness. I never asked, nor paid extra for BB. Most of the time, I was on my back, lady on top either kissing or giving me a BBBJ, then I kind of held them by their hands, as a manner that I was ready, then they just slipped me in. Some told me to let them know when I was getting close, while some others never said anything, but just rode hard.
One thing I did that worked was to turn off all the lights. After the room was dark we started in deep french kissing, then things just happened like a normal sexual intercourse between man/wife, boyfriend/girlfriend. Nothing like taking a girl into a big fancy hotel with a huge jacuzzi to get her to smiling and acting a bit playful. Condoms and a jacuzzi don't really work well together, but I've had covered sessions in a jacuzzi.
I guess that when I was seeing a lady for the first time it was a game within myself, will she or won't she. Awaiting for this answer was sometimes a high point in the session, till the bell rang.
On aspd and on costaricaticas there have been polls about BB sessions with intent. On all three (2 on aspd) the ratio was around 40-45% yes, 60-55% never had BB session.
OK, we've mentioned HIV, but there is other nasty bugs out there. Hepatitis C is one of them. In my frame of mind, once I made a two week period (clap or some other minor bug) without a dripping dick or hammering the wall as I piss. I was pretty secure things were OK.
Then again, there was the idea that I would get a call about some lady being LATE. I didn't really concern myself with that. Let's face it, any provider who gets pregnant and files a lawsuit against someone, well that provider would probably never work in said town again. Word would get out. Of course, the stud that I am, she was only BBing me. I don't think so. Yea, I heard it. Dear John was the only man that she went BB with. Hey, it sounds great and the ego loves it, but I only look dumb.
Who was doing all of this? Well, let's just say that they could be found. Some had reviews, some didn't have any reviews. Some were a paid session, others were sneaking off at a social. I won't go any further than that.
That was then, this is now. Somehow or another, I just feel the time is right to post this. I've not been in the hobby for over two years. One thing to note, I will compare blood tests with anybody, anywhere. I've had 3 full blood tests which included STD workups in the past 3 years, and it's been over 2 years since my last session. I can fly in and out of Costa Rica without being held at the airport (in other words, no kids).
I was in different state of mind at that time. Now, I put it at 99% I wouldn't go BB. It's like playing blackjack. Quality covered sessions were like getting a 20 against a dealers 19, while BB sessions were like getting an 11, doing a double down and getting a face card while the dealer gets a 19. Most of my hands have been winners, and I don't want to hit that one bad hand. Losing that final hand could be a critical loss.
It doesn't bother me if I heard a lady did BB sessions. I'm not going to post an alert about her doing BB. I do laugh when I think about someone I know had BB sessions, then one day he posted an alert about a backpage girl who may have been going BB. Fucking pot, kettle at it's worst.
One time I was reading many reviews of some new girl, all within about 2 months, and I knew she was doing the BB thing. One call to a close buddy of mine who had saw her verified what I thought. What I can't stand is this immature ewwwwwwwwwww, bareback is gross. Well, not to me. To me, as long as it's a choice between partners, it is one of the most natural things as adults can do. If you don't want to take a chance of getting some ewwwwwwwwww cum in you, then flip burgers at Mickey D's. Shit happens, condoms break, condoms slip off. What shouldn't be tolerated is some guy doing the doggy with a girl, then taking the condom off, then slipping back in. IMHO, that is either rape or almost rape.
My last BB session was a lady testing me out. I failed, but later she told me I really didn't stand a chance. No shit. This was about 3 years ago.
Yes, I have turned down BB sessions. I've had a few bar ladies ask me if I wanted protection, all were answered with an absolute yes.
My feeling right now is this. To both the men and ladies. Handle every session is the you know the person is with is BBing someone. Then it's on each other what happens.
I'm in the very twilight of this hobby stuff. I'm pretty much done having sessions as I've moved to other things I enjoy doing. I just felt this was the proper time to post something of such an intimate nature.
I also realize I'm putting myself out on the line, probably no help will be coming in this thread. Most will probably take some cheap shots, call me stupid, or whatever. Like I care what some anonymous person that doesn't know the real me thinks. The ones who agree or feel that they understand what I'm posting will be the ones who won't reply.
Just know this, Dear John isn't the real me.
**********THIS WAS WRITTEN AND POSTED ON ECCIE ON 4/1/2011***************
interesting thread. glad you started it cucafan. i just can't see myself going bbfs with a provider. i would be scared to death of catching something that would kill me.
It happens more than you think. Some providers just don't advertise it.
I wrote a review about newbie Anna Last week she sent me a message today said that she would be available this weekend and if I would do 50 more she would do bareback that she really enjoyed seeing me I’m gonna pass on that and let y’all have that I’m just putting it out there for the guys who want that
You make my skin crawl. I can make your skin crawl too.
Some girls openly offer BBFS with recent STD test results and they mean dated that morning or maybe the day before. I assume something similar to this is the way it works in the porn world.
A'Man
Is this even a question? Us providers will literally blacklist guys who ask for bbfs or try to force it..I get asked if I’ll do bbfs by nasty guys off here almost EVERY SINGLE DAY and it baffles me. The fact some random guy thinks I would ever put my health and bank account at risk (if you were to contact something how would you work and make money ?!) just so he can have 5 minutes of pleasure is flat out ridiculous to me ...
Ive never seen any girls do this personally.. where are these said providers ? Since I’ve actually been in the porn industry I’ll chime in here..In porn it’s the law that you can not preform without a recent blood test/full std test taken within 14 days. Everyone also has to use the same 2 testing places so that results can’t be manipulated or questioned. So it’s literally 2 people having sex who are Both showing each other their results taken within 14 days.. it’s also 2 people who get tested like crazy and also only really bang other people who get tested like crazy(i.e. other porn stars). Now when it comes to the hobby I definitely don’t think a guy telling a provider he got tested recently is as safe as the porn industry’s way of doing things..it’s just way safer and more regulated. In the hobby guys (or providers)can fake results..it would be a hassle and maybe even expensive if no insurance for both parties to go and get tested the day before..personally just don’t think It’s realistic for bbfs to ever be safe in the hobby... not a risk I would take anyway. Definitely something special I will save for my SO.
Actually, Paris, yes it happens a lot. I know that many of you get all these crazy requests and nasty stuff from someone who hasn't even ever laid eyes on you let alone "knows anything about you". I agree that's rather gross and indiscriminate.
However, yes, bbfs happens a lot. I mean not like rampant. But, yea it happens. Many times you don't even have to ask.
I've been very vocal about how I've never asked and I have yet to have anyone challenge that or say otherwise (b/c I haven't). Granted I don't "play" much at all anymore these days. It does happen though. If your are honestly baffled by it don't be. It's very real. Some of you may not do it and I do believe you if you say so.
But....all it takes is a girl in the right mood, very horny, guy really turns her on, he looks very good, smells very good, she gets a little out of control or too worked up, etc... This is all largely personal taste for each person, of course. Obviously there are general agreements about who is handsome or sexy or has a great personality and so on but still each person has their own desires & sexual triggers. Sometimes a girl will just "go with it". You don't have to ask. Sometimes she will even practically beg. Dead serious.
I've had that happen on at least 1 or 2 occasions (1-2 diff girls) b/c she was super into it, super wet, and she just wanted it. In one case some years back she knew I had kids and that I was married at the time so I don't think it worried her a lot. I've had at least a few others too over the last 10ish years. Never have I asked. Never.
Another girl whom was more like an fwb but I was technically paying her on this night (she became more like fwb afterward) she just started a SS after having done a some BJ which wasn't working so well. We were both bummed that she forgot condoms and I had none. During the SS my manhood started to really come back alive and she took that opportunity to let the head start going in, once she was really wet and the head was going in completely, she just forced herself down really hard, pressing hard & wriggling around to get it to go in, and before long it was fully inside, she was majorly wet, and we were full on fucking in CG and I mean fucking hardcore. Some time after that I flipped her over and fucked her mish until we both came at the same time.
Trust me it happens. Oh yeah. Is it the smartest thing to do if you've never laid eyes on someone? Don't know a thing about them? Already promised this activity to a guy you've never even seen or heard? Guy asking a girl to do it without knowing a thing about her? No no no no no. :shocked: Those are not great ideas. I will not have BB sex with just anyone. I've also turned down girls who asked to put it in. But I'm also not totally freaked about it if I decide it seems safe enough bc I know the girl, or enough about her background, to a degree I feel safe and it "just happens" (Not for money, not bc someone asked, made a deal, etc.... No. It simply happens organically.). Just saying.
But, yes, if you think it doesn't happen you are fooling yourself. I'd even bet anything, as crazy as it sounds, that those dudes you talk about (the ones who indiscriminately ask) actually get certain people who say "ok sure I'll do it" or "I'll do it for X more". :shocked: Pretty crazy in that case but yea :/