The other change in the law Sept 1st.

Another major change in Texas Law Sept. 1st is Constitutional Carry. This means, as long as you have no disqualifying elements in your background, you can now carry a handgun legally without a CHL. I would do my research because CHL holders have a few more privileges not granted to the Non-CHL holder. You also want to make sure you know how, when and where you are allowed to carry.

Just curious, how many of you will start to carry now? How many of you have already been carrying with a CHL?

Poll is private. Please keep politics out of the discussion. Keep any comments civil. I don’t want this to become a pissing match.

I voted ' I will not carry' but as to the reasons why it's impossible to discuss without crossing the political line or offering opinions on guns or gun laws etc. Speaking only for myself and not others ( keeping it civil as you say) I can just say ' I have proudly never owned a gun, I will proudly never own a gun and I see no need for myself to ever purchase/own/carry/use a gun'

I definitely respect your personal choice on the matter. :clapping:

KC,

Much better to have and not need than to need and not have.

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KC,

Much better to have and not need than to need and not have.

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If you would like to discuss ' guns' feel free to PM me or maybe start a new thread ( if we are allowed in the Locker Room ?? ) and I would be more than happy to lay it out to the extent the board would permit me too. Your comment is fair game and in line with discussions on guns but for now why not keep this thread in line w R2R's request to not turn this political which is really no different than opinions and exactly why I replied w a statement only answering the OP's question nothing else. Your comment IS worthy of a reply but won't be in this thread. All good. In the proper thread if opportunity presents will happily address your thoughts.

Completely unnecessary to continue dialogue. You do you, I’ll do me.

now i am going to have to add another line in my signature line that says NO GUNS ALLOWED. If i see a gun, the session is over and you are asked to leave. My apartment, my rules. NO GUNS.

I have owned the same gun for over 30 years it's never let me down, and it provides me the exact service I want to use it for.

Granted, it's a NES Light Zapper, and I need to keep a CRT TV to use it, but I'm totally aces at shooting those ducks down. I can carry it whereever I want.

I own guns but ... won't carry.
The fact is that if someone is somewhere and a situation develops that they need to pull it it becomes a HUGE high stress situation.
In that type of situation someone like a cop or someone in the armed services are trained to handle that kind of stress ... civilians, not so much.
Seems like in that type of situation innocent people are the ones that wind up getting hurt ... or worse.
I really don't want that on my conscience.

If this is against TOF then please remove. Thanks!

Seldom Seen Smith

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Originally Posted by Sue Nami

now i am going to have to add another line in my signature line that says NO GUNS ALLOWED. If i see a gun, the session is over and you are asked to leave. My apartment, my rules. NO GUNS.

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As a business professional, you should make your wishes known. Kudos for being proactive.

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Originally Posted by SubClubKid81

I have owned the same gun for over 30 years it's never let me down, and it provides me the exact service I want to use it for.

Granted, it's a NES Light Zapper, and I need to keep a CRT TV to use it, but I'm totally aces at shooting those ducks down. I can carry it whereever I want.

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Haha but....can you shoot those frisbees?

Not as well as the ducks.

Yep - no politics. I own a gun and I carry it. I also know how to shoot it. Ladies, gun ranges are excellent ways to meet guys. Escpecially if you are into the dominate /alpha types - which I love! I do not have a license but if it goes back to that I can get one. That's a non issue for me. God blessed Texas!!!

I saw a provider once that asked politely for me not to bring the firearm into the session. I complied by placing it in a secure place in my trunk. No issues.

HOWEVER, that being said, unless the provider states 'no firearms' beforehand, I will be bringing my sidearm with me. It stays holstered the entire time. I go (almost, The VA in Temple being one place I don't) everywhere strapped for my own protection. I have had more folks ask me 'Is that a 1911?' more than those that avoid me. I have an LTC (no longer CHL in state and has not been for a few years) and support taking the class for everyone, even if you never intend to own or carry. The legal ramifications of just owning a firearm are numerous but fairly easy to understand. You learn about 'castle doctrine' aka stand your ground. You learn what can and shouldn't be done with a firearm. You learn that a longarm requires no permit and can be carried almost everywhere (provided you want to be hassled by LEO's everywhere).

I had all the gun play fun I needed in the army. The only gun I ever owned was handed down by my grandfather, and I gave to my oldest son.

I feel sorry for people who feel the need to carry for protection. But I can certainly understand any provider wanting to carry. I’ve known plenty that do, and I sympathize with them.

And I’m sorry, but I think that open carry is daft. I haven’t seen any deer strolling down Congress Ave. And the notion that you might need it is goofy. By the time you know you need it, it’s probably too late.

I support the second amendment. But even the members of the best well regulated militias leave their weapons at the armory when they hit the town.

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I had all the gun play fun I needed in the army. The only gun I ever owned was handed down by my grandfather, and I gave to my oldest son.

I feel sorry for people who feel the need to carry for protection. But I can certainly understand any provider wanting to carry. I’ve known plenty that do, and I sympathize with them.

And I’m sorry, but I think that open carry is daft. I haven’t seen any deer strolling down Congress Ave. And the notion that you might need it is goofy. By the time you know you need it, it’s probably too late.

I support the second amendment. But even the members of the best well regulated militias leave their weapons at the armory when they hit the town.

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I can't remember where I heard it but there's an old saying, when guns were only revolvers and no automatics:
If you're going to carry a gun, make sure to put a hundred dollar bill in one of the chambers to pay for your funeral expenses.

Seldom Seen Smith

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Originally Posted by Seldom_Seen_Smith

I can't remember where I heard it but there's an old saying, when guns were only revolvers and no automatics:
If you're going to carry a gun, make sure to put a hundred dollar bill in one of the chambers to pay for your funeral expenses.

Seldom Seen Smith

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I like that. A little bit like the man who lives by the sword dies by the sword.

When I’m hobbying, I go in with more than just my cock in hand. I have experienced enough rough BS for this lifetime. Enough said.

I enjoy shooting. It is a great sport/hobby.
I enjoy hunting and eating what I take.
Training and practice are necessary. Sorry video games don’t count.
The right to bear arms is not limited to the privileged elites.
When survival depends upon being able to defend oneself or others, I do not want deaths on my conscious for needing to wait the 10 minutes for a government employee to show up. I hope all my neighbors feel the same.

I already carry when I travel. I had my CHL back in the late 90's let it expire when I moved to Austin area. Now I will carry again. In fact I am shopping now for a new Glock with a 4" barrel or less.

I feel sorry for guys, who think, that they need to carry a gun, when going to see a girl.
But then again, you get what you seek. If you seek danger, bring your gun. Bring your tank too. Who knows, maybe you will need it, LOL!

I carry because I choose to carry. I hope NEVER to unholster in anger. I hope to pass on my .45 having never fired it in anger. But that being said, if some a**hole decides to shoot up my location, I intend to end it quickly before they can reload. I prefer to do that at range, not within knife fighting distance. That being said my EDC blade can do the job quite well also. I train in scenarios of being unarmed, no cover/concealment, rapid fire fire, etc. I am confident that I will panic, have adrenaline flooding my system, and still be accurate enough to avoid hitting a bystander. Hopefully, this will never come to pass, but the news carries stories of where the presence of an aware, ARMED individual stopped a killer in their tracks from causing more than the original damage.

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I feel sorry for guys, who think, that they need to carry a gun, when going to see a girl.
But then again, you get what you seek. If you seek danger, bring your gun. Bring your tank too. Who knows, maybe you will need it, LOL!

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In light of Ms Alexandra’s post, those who do carry while seeing a lady have an even greater risk if arrested. Solicitation will now be a Felony. You don’t want to get caught possessing a firearm while committing a felony. That’s a totally different ballgame.

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Originally Posted by AlexandraSand

I feel sorry for guys, who think, that they need to carry a gun, when going to see a girl.
But then again, you get what you seek. If you seek danger, bring your gun. Bring your tank too. Who knows, maybe you will need it, LOL!

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It’s more about who she might have with her

just to clarify, of the 50% of you planning on carrying a gun, are u planning on carrying them into hobby sessions? will you show up armed at appointments with providers?

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just to clarify, of the 50% of you planning on carrying a gun, are u planning on carrying them into hobby sessions? will you show up armed at appointments with providers?

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I will never carry a weapon into someone’s home or residence without their knowledge, or permission.

I will not do this poll. What I will say is, I have a CHL, and that is for reason. BUT, I WILL NEVER CARRY INTO A HOBBY SESSION!!!!!

The FIVE biggest lessons I learned from most excellent instructors:
1) if you are angry, you are likely not justified to use force - YOU WILL BE CHARGED
2) if you are afraid for your life, or the life of others, you might be justified to use force. YOU STILL MAY BE CHARGED
3) if you can run, any opportunity at all, take that option - OTHERWISE YOU WILL BE CHARGED
4) the intent must always be - Stop the Threat, and only that - OTHERWISE YOU WILL BE CHARGED
5) if you ever find yourself in a situation where use OF DEADLY FORCE is required for self-defense - YOUR LIFE WILL FOREVER BE CHANGED.

There is some wisdom here in these posts. Risn2theoccasion2 is spot-on, and not only that - why??? Damn, if you feel there is that much risk, as with going into shady bars, then I put to you, that you are a FOOL. Do your research well, vet the providers, network here on OH2.

It really is insanity if anyone thinks carrying into a hobby session is justified!

To all, I want to apologize if I offended any of my fellow hobbyists in my response. I have given this some further thought. I understand both sides. I am aware there is a darker, more risky side of the hobby, that I was exposed to more than once, and I will personally will avoid at all costs, one big reason I joined OH2.

I apologize for resorting to name calling, and the all-caps, that was wrong of me. My sincere intent was to defend the very valid concerns of Companions. Re-Thinking, I also have met companions who openly have firearms available and at the ready; Somewhat disconcerting to a 1st time meeting, and definitely requires some attention to eliminate fear (both parties). I am sure there are others that carry (and for valid reason) and do not share, there is risk in that knowledge as well.

Defend yourself, do no harm, yes, place others in harms way in the Hobby, never. Thank you for your time and considerstaion!

I have never been in a situation where I needed a handgun. What I have found is that having a cell phone and being able to call the police has been a better option. It just doesn't seem practical to me.

I can't imagine carrying a handgun into an appointment. If I thought I might need that, then why would I schedule with that provider in the first place?

Those who do carry thinking that they will stop some crime in progress should read about what happened in Arvada, CO when someone did just that: they were fatally shot by the police. https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/26/us/ar...tan/index.html

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Those who do carry thinking that they will stop some crime in progress should read about what happened in Arvada, CO when someone did just that: they were fatally shot by the police. https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/26/us/ar...tan/index.html

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While assigned to Europe in the military, we were trained to NOT try to intervene or "help" police during an attack. While we were trained/expert on many weapons and quite capable of helping put down an active shooter or terrorist attack, all the police would see is "someone with a gun who is not a cop" in middle of a fire fight--bang bang, you're dead.

Get down, stay down and play dead until the shooting stops. And then, don't make any sudden moves, and keep your hands in sight until the scene has been secured by first responders.

Just a few observations that are not political but are often missing from this debate.

1) A well known economic phenomenon in economics is that supply often begets demand. The rule is applicable to many other social situations, including this one.
2) The presence of a gun is an explicit threat to all in the vicinity. It is not a singular, private act. Let now one act surprised when others treat it as such.

Another point I have noticed is that my apartment and several other large complexes I checked out have posted LARGE signs around the property saying > no open carry of handguns allowed on this property<. https://www.google.com/search?q=Texa...CAPPDO_enUS872

so if you open carry a gun to some apartment incall locations you are breaking the law. I would hazzard a guess that hotels have these signs too. I need to check on that. I know HEB has this sign now posted at all locations.