LOL
Apparently, I offended someone (Angel and /or Deuce) because of questions I had under a thread for donations toward a new site.
And so....I am now banned. :blink:
Amazing the lack of honesty and integrity in some people.
Kelli Ann :lol:
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Apparently, I offended someone (Angel and /or Deuce) because of questions I had under a thread for donations toward a new site.
And so....I am now banned. :blink:
Amazing the lack of honesty and integrity in some people.
Kelli Ann :lol:
well i think we've all found a site that we'll be welcome at
If I was part of the ownership, as apposed to simply a moderator, I'd have probably booted you off the site, too. You were picking a fight with the owners. At least, that's how I'd see it if I were one of the owners.
I would have banned you for lack of tittie pics. Just saying.
GG: I really don't care about your opinion although it is your perogative to put it out there and that I do respect and will never deny of one.
I understand that Angel and Duece are trying to create a new site and are asking for "donations" to do so.
HOWEVER----> that being said, there are too many 'ifs' and unreliable information that is going unanswered.
I would hate for people to donate their hard earned cash to something that may never happen and what if they never see a site open up, what if the owners decide to pick and choose AGAIN as they are now and "forget" those who actually helped them. There is not enough explanation and they are BOTH refusing to answer the questions from those who are both interested and apprehensive about giving a donation toward a new site. I was asking questions and trying to get more information for myself and others. It was NOT a fight and I was in NO WAY attempting to pick a fight, it was quite the contrary. No one is doing their job over there at all! I have sent more than a dozen emails asking for assistance from how to post an ad under new rules to donating and all are unanswered. I have also heard this same issue from too many people. Also, there are people all over that board going crazy and being disrespecful including YOU! Your intolerable rudeness and assumptions ( and that is exactly what they are- assumptions) are not appreciated in any way whatsoever and I am tired of people trampling on others, including me, just because they choose to be honest and demand an honest answer especially when their own cash is at stake. I am still owed money from aspd. Where is it? Where are my ads? Why don't they answer? Where are the honest questions and when will the runaround stop? That was my intention in my post. And if they want to take it like a 12 year old middle schooler- all personal and cry in the corner and ban me because they are afraid of me for calling them on their mistakes then so be it. They just want everyone under their cloud and no eyebrows to be raised! That is the reason they did what they did to me! That is the ONLY reason.
I hardly get 1/4 of my biz from them and so they are no big loss believe me. I will NOT ever compromise my dignity for anyone ever especially NOT the likes of that riff raff over there that has taken over and destroyed COMPLETELY the intergrity and good intentions that Amber (God rest her beautiful soul!)lived for through that site. I have constantly, up until I was banned, been PM-ed and emailed from people I don't even know telling me they wish they could say what I have been saying but they are too afraid too or that I said it best. I am (right now) getting emails saying the same thing from providers and hobbyists that are leaving aspd. My Pms have been overflowing with this so do not "co-threaten" me that you would have banned me too or that you "think" I was picking a fight. There are too many inconsistencies with what is happening and too much inside information being leaked. (I have intercepted some through ppl emails to me) This is professionalism? Is it what people really want to salvage and waste money on? I don't wanna hear it. I am not so easily clouded nor am I in the least bit ignorant to how these things work and the misconceptions that are presented. Do not pretend that you know me or what my intentions were, sir, because you have seriously directed the issue in a most profoundly obtuse manner.
Kelli Ann Preston
Donate or don't.
I don't think they've made any secret about what they're doing. They're not sure they'll get enough money to get the site working. They don't know if they'll get participation after rebuilding the site to make it viable.
Lots of folks have asked if ASPD can't be saved, said they'd pitch in money, why are you closing it down, etc.
If you don't like the info they've given out, don't contribute.
As for banning you, I'm saying how *I* would feel if I owned the site. They've got to be on edge due to the attacks, including some nasty things such as threatening them in the real world.
I totally agree, GG, about the threats in the real world that they may in fact face, but what sense does that make when a person that has so called threatened , their family, and posted information and pictures of them gets let back onto the site and recieves full reactivation of his account? I cannot re-register, no new registrations are allowed but a threatening person is being accepted back onto the site and all when it is closing? Isn't is all very fishy and convienent? Something MORE is happening and that is my concern because I do not want people to get "taken" if you will, and know what I mean. That is all. I had a great love and admiration and respect for aspd until some things there changed and not for the better. I value many friendships I made there and I would hate to see people get taken advantage of for not knowing ALL the details. You don't ask people for such a large amount of money and not expect some type of intell, info, etc. You just don't do that when you haven't earned it. And it does NOT take that much. Even charities have to give their information and a "break down" of where the money goes and some even offer a tax deduction. In this case, it is just hand it over and we will see what happens...kinda scary and chancy IMHO.
I was also willing to help the site, see it stay afloat, and even interested in the prospects of a new sister site but I don't think this is being done in the proper way and being obviously shady about things to those very people that are serious and ready to help and donate isn't a very good way to build the trust one expects.
Respectfully,
Kelli Ann
KKAnne,
You did nothing wrong. You did everything just right in the opinion you put forth!!
LikiNiki too! and yet she was given snide remarks by Deuce. His last one cuts the cake!
It's a shame how the intelligent folks are not sulking that aspd is closing. Rather we're stepping up and asking question with
the blinders OFF!! Those us who get it. Know something is NOT right. The puzzle is missing a lot of key pieces.
I'm stilling baffled as to how they NOW don't know HOW Amber died. NOR do they have proof of a death certificate.
Any persons in the medical or legal professions are asking themselves the same question. (Something is not right)!!
Still baffled at how (after) they the owners posted a pic of Amber and posted their personal data on the site.
Can accuse someone of turning their life upside down & causing Mel to lose his job.
Yet then turn around a let that person who *supposedly* caused the problems in their life. (That *supposedly* caused them
not to have any further dealing with aspd. And such closing it.) that they un-banned him and let him back on aspd.
Someone talk logic to me on that one?????
Has no one even considered that Mels boss was probably a hobbyist. Knew his family, Saw Ambers photos & her mom & sister
constantly talking about her health issues & posting their personal mailing data so folks could GIVE THEM MONIES!!!!!!!
Like I said the puzzles don't fit. The story doesn't add up from the story we were given from day one.
It's all about greed. The naysayers can boo me & others all they want. They can kiss ass and empty their wallets to two unknown
strangers they've never met. (One who's NOT provider friendly nor accepting of a woman's opinion) I know this because HE told me this in
no uncertain terms. (One who's never dipped her foot in the hobby lifestyle. Knows nothing about it. Except there's MONEY involved!!)
Deuce nor Angelimnot, will not give the community any straight answers. NONE. However, they'll keep asking for your donation
and give you the info on where to send it.
So those of you who are so gullible. Good luck to you. There are many of us still seeking answers that are missing from the puzzle.
GGuy?
You a Mod, right? If so why are you emailing providers and telling them to be careful because YOUR a mod???
Are you now making threats to providers with who's opinion you don't agree with. Especially if they pertain to Deuce & Angels
so called site??
Threats like that towards providers or anyone who's opinion you don't like. Is not welcomed nor appreciated.
If that's the stuff your going to pull as a Mod. Then I hope CK looks into it and removes you from the mod panel, ASAP!!!
Opinions are meant to be either agreed nor disagreed. But not for folks to be on the receiving end of an email from
a member saying HE's a MOD so you better be careful! That's UNCALLED for!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wicked milf @ Jan 4 2010, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>WHO did I e-mail? THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. I don't think I've e-mailed anyone a warning. If someone is sending e-mails claiming to be me, this is a big problem.Quote:
GGuy?
You a Mod? If so why are you emailing providers and telling them to be careful because YOUR a mod???
Are you now making threats to providers with who's opinion you don't agree with. Especially if they pertain to Deuce & Angels
so called site??[/b]
Or do you mean the post above?
Sorry if you misunderstood. I was a mod at ASPD until a little over a year ago. I left under good terms (I think) with the rest of the staff. I just wasn't willing to spend the time any more.
If I was still a mod at ASPD (I'm not), I would not have banned Kelli for her comments.
If I WERE the owner at ASPD. I would probably have banned her. In my opinion, the board owner has a larger degree of discretion than a mod.
If I were the owner, I would have told quite a number of people to tone down the venom level. I would have banned a number of people when they wouldn't. Maybe there would have been less drama at ASPD.
I AM a mod here. I would not ban Kelli for similar comments here, unless the staff as a group or the owner decides that it's the right thing to do.
If anyone here starts stirring up too much trouble, I'll discuss it with them and with staff. Nobody would get banned by me unless they repeatedly ignore the instructions of the staff. (With the exception of those who make serious violations like posting real names, threats, spyware, multiple handles, etc.)
Please read my comments carefully.
I'm not telling people they should donate to eraps.
If you want to, do so.
If you want to contribute a little bit, do so.
If you don't feel donating is a good idea, don't.
If you're not happy with the assurances being given, don't donate.
If they've pissed you off, don't donate.
Don't get mad, get moving. Participate in home2, eccie, etc. Make them good sites for all of us to participate in.
Don't dwell on the bad things at ASPD. Make home2 or other sites a better place.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wicked milf @ Jan 4 2010, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>I'm sorry, but who is the member who's been unbanned?Quote:
Yet then turn around a let that person who *supposedly* caused the problems in their life. (That *supposedly* caused them not to have any further dealing with aspd. And such closing it.) that they un-banned him and let him back on aspd.[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GneissGuy @ Jan 4 2010, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Quote:
Please read my comments carefully.
I'm not telling people they should donate to eraps.
If you want to, do so.
If you want to contribute a little bit, do so.
If you don't feel donating is a good idea, don't.
If you're not happy with the assurances being given, don't donate.
If they've pissed you off, don't donate.
Don't get mad, get moving. Participate in home2, eccie, etc. Make them good sites for all of us to participate in.
Don't dwell on the bad things at ASPD. Make home2 or other sites a better place.[/b]
Why are you not reading what folks are writing? Get off the "don't donate if they pissed you off", box.
READ what folks are expressing. It's goes far beyond what your even comprehending/saying.
There's FAR more to the do or don't donate. However, yourself & others are NOT seeing it.
Those that are. Are asking questions and putting forth opinions. And being IGNORED or SCOLDED!
WHY? Because how dare anyone have an opinion or question that does NOT agree with them.
Heck, even some of the intelligent Attnys are asking questions & being ignored or get a dishonest, run around shity answer.
:unsure:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wicked milf @ Jan 4 2010, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>I take it you're in the "not donating" camp. :rolleyes:Quote:
Why are you not reading what folks are writing? ...[/b]
Once again, that sounds to me like a good reason for you to write ASPD/ERAPS off your list and move along.
There are plenty of boards out there that I don't like. Hobby or other subjects. I don't participate. I don't read them. They don't bother me unless they somehow drag my name into something.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>Hi,Quote:
I'm stilling baffled as to how they NOW don't know HOW Amber died. NOR do they have proof of a death certificate.
Any persons in the medical or legal professions are asking themselves the same question. (Something is not right)!![/b]
Sorry to hear about that KKA....and a little off topic...
That puzzled me too.....just curious is that her birth mom or her "play" mom? As everyone knows, in this industry a lot of people say others are their "family" member but in reality they are not....I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings if she is but if she isn't her legal mom things would make a lot more sense....
Sincerely,
Velvet
I believe it's her real, biological mom.
I'm guessing that the exact cause of death is not known. She had long term medical problems, so there may be some question as to which medical problem caused the death. Maybe if there is a question of a medical misadventure, that complicates the issue.
Does anyone know if they will hold off issuing a death certificate when someone has been pronounced dead, but the cause is still under investigation? In Texas?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GneissGuy @ Jan 4 2010, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Quote:
I believe it's her real, biological mom.
I'm guessing that the exact cause of death is not known. She had long term medical problems, so there may be some question as to which medical problem caused the death. Maybe if there is a question of a medical misadventure, that complicates the issue.
Does anyone know if they will hold off issuing a death certificate when someone has been pronounced dead, but the cause is still under investigation? In Texas?[/b]
I am not sure about the investigation thing and issuing a certificate.....but I do know it can take up to 90 days or longer for one to be issued for regular deaths...well according to Vital statistics, or at least until they have it...but according to the state:
"The Medical Examiner will issue a death certificate with ten (10) days of performance of examination in accordance with the State Law. The death certificate is mailed to the Funeral Home who has the responsibility of filing it with the Bureau of Vital Statistics in the city of death.
In some cases, an exact cause or manner of death is not established at the completion of an examination. Depending upon the test(s) ordered or investigation in progress, it may take several weeks before the final cause and manner of death are established. The Medical Examiner will automatically file an amended death certificate with the Bureau of Vital Statistics in the city of death."
So according to the state, one should have already been issued, and if they were still investigating, and amended one would be filed when they are done.
Certain blood tests, for chemicals/pharmaceuticals can take much longer than ten days and will delay the issuing of a death certificate.
Anyone remember Michael Jackson's death and how long it took to get an official rulikng on his cause of death....
By the way, I read the thread on ASPD and can't believe Kelly was banned for asking what are legitimate questions, at least in my opinion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BorderCrosser @ Jan 4 2010, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>This is correct. We waited a few weeks here in Harris County to get the final report and certificate on my brother-in-law after he died.Quote:
Certain blood tests, for chemicals/pharmaceuticals can take much longer than ten days and will delay the issuing of a death certificate.[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GneissGuy @ Jan 4 2010, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Quote:
I take it you're in the "not donating" camp. :rolleyes:
Once again, that sounds to me like a good reason for you to write ASPD/ERAPS off your list and move along.
There are plenty of boards out there that I don't like. Hobby or other subjects. I don't participate. I don't read them. They don't bother me unless they somehow drag my name into something.[/b]
Boy, your sure on this *do or don't Donate* soap box lately.
Btw, what does your above comment have to do with the issues/questions going unanswered, that the folks have been asking/seeking??
Since your so gung ho about the affairs of the eraps site & whether or not folks do or don't donate. (Since YOU keep shoving that remark in folks face).
Let me turn the question back to you since your not even close to comprehending what folks are talking about regarding that site & the donations
the monies their asking for.
Are YOU, GG going to DONATE to eraps? Your willing to give them a grand or whatever they want?
You seems to spend A LOT of time defending them & following them around the board.
Yet shoving snide remarks in folks faces about *Do or don't donate* or participation on other sites etc.
Curious to hear your reply. Or will it yet again be in defense of eraps & *do or don't donate* remark.
Folks are tired of the run around & bs replies being given.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wicked milf @ Jan 4 2010, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Please answer this question:Quote:
If so why are you emailing providers and telling them to be careful because YOUR a mod???
...
But not for folks to be on the receiving end of an email from
a member saying HE's a MOD so you better be careful! That's UNCALLED for![/b]
WHO DO YOU THINK I'VE EMAILED A THREAT TO?
If you mean my post in this thread, please correct your statement.
In the matter of a "death certificate" it is always different pertaining to the situation and issues surrounding the death. Personally, I have been on both the long and short end of this and it can be frustrating when you are looking for closure. But in the case with ASPD I think something more serious and underhanded is going on. The most obvious part of it is the way the entire board and tone changed in such a small amount of time. Someone is in BIG trouble and there is a coverup of something somewhere. Not that it is any of anyone else's biz but something IS going on for sure.
The shortest I ever waiting for a death certificate was 2 weeks and the longest was 18 months. It varies and isn't always an easy or routine thing depending on, like I said, the circumstances.
WM, and Wet Velvet, thanks for your sentiments, I appreciate them. I am, in fact, a little saddened by the closing of ASPD because that is where I was welcomed with open arms by CK and helped to get through many tech and other problems by him and dennisrn. I met so many friends including you two great ladies and many more. I can never thank "Amber" enough for a place like that- a place that was long gone with her weeks maybe a year before all this. I had not been a member that long but I was around and the board took a drastic change in recent months and for the very worst.
Angelimnot and Deuces (wasn't he ALSO banned and magically appeared again as head of ASPD? AMAZING!) tone toward THIER OWN community is UNFORGIVABLE, disrespectful, uncalled for, and unjustifiable in all regards. I want to leave them and ASPD and their drama behind and move on.
I am done with them and they are not even worth talking about anymore as far as I am concerned. I am banning them from my mind as they have banned me for simply trying to understand where my donation would be going and how it would work. When I don't fully understand something- I ask questions. I am a firm believer that it is how a person learns and keeps from becoming ignorant. There are no stupid questions- just stupid answers like Deuce spewed out in the past two days. I am not even sure it is worth bringing up a suit against them for the money they owe me for a years worth of sponsor ads I never recieved. I guess I will just look at that as a donation in memory of Amber (hopefully it goes to something in honor of her, but I doubt it) along with the generous donation I intitially made to her memorial fund. Call me a kind hearted sucker, I guess.
I do not want to encourage or bring a bad karma to this board, my new home; therefore, I am dropping it. I am grateful to CK for this place and I am glad he has the intitiative and understanding to have been here when we ALL needed him. Thank you CK and all the other MODs here!
GGUY: You asked who the member was that was banned and turned the family's lives upside down by exposing them and threatening them, etc. Then he was let back on the board with full access. We are talking about TYSTEEL. He has been given access and his account reinstated. I must be a worse person than he is if I get banned and he gets back on. See the irony! Nope that is the wrong word. I meant see the stupidity! Something is definately up!
Respectfully,
Kelli Ann
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KKelliAnn @ Jan 4 2010, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>I don't see any indication tysteel was given access again, but I could be wrong.Quote:
GGUY: You asked who the member was that was banned and turned the family's lives upside down by exposing them and threatening them, etc. Then he was let back on the board with full access. We are talking about TYSTEEL. He has been given access and his account reinstated. I must be a worse person than he is if I get banned and he gets back on. See the irony! Nope that is the wrong word. I meant see the stupidity! Something is definately up![/b]
What makes you think he has access again?
By the way, Jade says they now have a death certificate.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GneissGuy @ Jan 4 2010, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Quote:
Please answer this question:
WHO DO YOU THINK I'VE EMAILED A THREAT TO?
If you mean my post in this thread, please correct your statement.[/b]
I know who and it's being handled properly. NO need for you to shout.
You can talk respectfully, w/o shouting at folks.
If the email confirms that it's not from you. And you were not the GGuy who emailed
and stated that "YOUR a MOD so be careful" Then corrections & apologies will be made.
Until then. It's being handled.
aspd is going going and soon GONE!!
I hope once it's gone, we ALL can move forward and cease from talking about a site that has recently
disrespected a lot folks over the last few weeks. That's not how Amber would have wanted it.
It's a NEW YEAR and time to move on and continue enjoying the friendships & pleasures that
this hobby is all about.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wicked milf @ Jan 4 2010, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>Hear! Hear!Quote:
It's a NEW YEAR and time to move on and continue enjoying the friendships & pleasures that
this hobby is all about.[/b]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wicked milf @ Jan 4 2010, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>I'm very disappointed that it took shouting to get you to respond to my request to back up your lies, despite a polite request from me to clarify what you're talking about.Quote:
I know who and it's being handled properly. NO need for you to shout.
You can talk respectfully, w/o shouting at folks.[/b]
Speaking of respect. Try to get your facts straight before posting lies about someone.
imho, the important business hereabouts should be
-- posting ads
-- exploring forums
-- inviting those you trust to join this site
-- having fun and having "FUN!"
Some of the stuff in this thread is more appropriate for The National Enquirer or STAR! than our peaceful precincts.
So this thread is closed, and lets if we can keep the speculation about the other board, its owners, their motives and all the other fol-de-rol to a minimum.
Home2 is about "comfort" and about "moving on" please.
Kelli, you are among the real people here...and banned there!