Well this thread has turned out as a very interesting read.
Duly Noted
OP,
I hope you're doing well.
Stay amazing!!
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Well this thread has turned out as a very interesting read.
Duly Noted
OP,
I hope you're doing well.
Stay amazing!!
Everyone makes mistakes. Catching feelings is easy to do when you vibe. When those feelings start to creep up you have to take a step back and shake it off.
I’m an older gentleman and I remember flipping through the yellow pages trying to find a companion. Used to be a large section under escorts and modeling agencies. You would call the agency, they would tell you what they had , the lady would call you and a meeting would be set up. It was commonplace for them to have a male driver to ensure their safety. I also recall my time at Hollywood studio off of bissonet I believe where as a young guy in his twenties I met a redhead there that I would see all the time, I forgot her name. The common thread in this was these ladies almost never kissed you and if you desired a bj it was always covered. It was just companionship and sex. Something changed, the genius of Escape in my opinion bought to the forefront in Houston of the whole Gfe phenomenon, where ladies went out of their way to make the encounter seem as if you were actually spending time with a person who really cared about you and they just met you. Now it’s the norm, most guys require that in order for them to do business, for whatever reason
Here is the kicker, the gentleman has got to be emotionally ready and able to understand that, no matter how intense it gets it’s got to be something in that gentleman that is able to take what’s given, appreciate it and then go about his business. If a gentleman is unable to do this then this is not for him. It will end up badly, with a lot of money spent and the person in the same state they started in. This pandemic has really exacerbated the whole thing because people are lonelier than they have ever been. Still, it has got to be a situation where the gent realizes that these providers have got to recreate that intimacy multiple times in order to still stay in business. Sometimes it’s genuine, sometimes it’s bullshit. If a woman is really feeling you she will let you know, otherwise you’ve got to take this for what it is. An unbelievably great time for whatever amount of time you have procured.
As for if you have jumped on any dns lists I honestly believe you might have but what’s my opinion worth. I believe you have overshared, it’s some things left between you and God. Humans by nature enjoy sex, but at the end of the day they have got to separate feelings from having to make money. This is their job, livelihood first and foremost and they can’t take a risk of possibly gaining a stalker for doing a great job. Again I’m saying this as gently as possible because I feel your pain but I want to be honest. This might seem corny, but op go by a jug of water and a dog pail and go to any dog park in the city. The dogs play quite a bit, they get thirsty, and almost all the owners forget to bring water for their pets. It’s the most therapeutic feeling in the world to go out there and be around those dogs, plus it’s an opportunity for you to meet people and dog people are the best people in the world to me. I go twice a week and I so look forward to that hour or so in that park.
To ebony love, I understand what you are saying and I first of all appreciate you being a provider. Thank you, I know providers have bought some great memories to me, but caution has always got to be exercised. For a whole lot of money made, there are many horror stories of women who have been seriously hurt or even murdered dealing with men who feel a certain way about affection not returned. Making a bad decision with a gent could very well be your last and I’m not trying to be overly dramatic. If you see a guy doing things for you that are over the top something has got to resonate with you for your safety and his mental health to say no thank you. It’s a very thin line that has to be constantly observed. This is a very precarious ordeal, for client and provider, more so for the provider. Doesn’t matter how many safety precautions one has in place, but never accept a gift that puts you in a precarious spot. Again, just my opinion.
In conclusion sir, just be a good soul. If you choose to continue seeing ladies, treat everyone exceptionally well, be kind considerate of their feelings. See them often, but don’t do any dramatics, at the timely conclusion of your session jump up and happily leave. Don’t appear too whiny or needy, just be a great person and be attentive to them even though you are spending your money. Listen, if they mention they like a particular author bring them a book by that author on the next visit, if they fish procure a gift that falls in line with that. Do that over a period of time without putting pressure on them and watch what unfolds. Providers are first women, you got to put in major work if you want to earn their trust. Above all sir I wish you the best
Go to that dog park though and thank me later lol. Sending blessings your way.
Elmer Fudge, I still agree with you on the things you said in both replies to me and your cautionary advice is understood.
Sorry for taking a dig at ol boy but his ‘whoa is me I’m too smart to fall for a dumb ho’ post was kinda disgusting.
Love to all the dogs around the world!
Damn, some of you Houstonians are wordy MFers ;)
This, though, is worth highlighting. I’m a cynic when it comes to romance in the hobby. I do agree in the Golden Rule, however, and even if our motives aren’t conventionally pure in our subculture there is no reason not to approach encounters with good will and empathy towards the folks on the other side of the transaction.
I’ve never allowed myself to get too emotionally involved with a provider, but a few did develop into friendships that survived the lady’s hobby career. I actually feel that’s a better outcome than becoming spouses, SOs, etc., as it comes with no agenda other than just appreciating one another for attributes that aren’t necessarily tied to our sexuality.
^^^ lol
Elmer Fudge and mathguy are wordy Sweeties.
There's one more haven't seen him post much lately.
I have to admit I like their writing skills.
PS
And they always stay very respectful even when "picked and poked" by Neanderthals :clapping:
On the other hand, I often wonder why any other business is accepted for being profit driven but if it’s a woman’s time it’s:
oh be careful some guys might kill you in a rage of egotistical “passion”!
*shrugs in no weapon...*
Stop paying her when you visit next. Tell her you forgot the money brutha. Bro watch her reaction, if she does not throw you out then repeat, after 10 free fucks give her your terms. Ok bro. For me the litmus test when a girl says Mi Amor few times I deliberately cancel my next appt , you should see the bombardment of texts, I am a time waster lol bro. Wake up and have a control on your penis then you can control the mind.
You pay to fuck here and the girls fuck you for money bro. Repeat. Brutha.
Ok ebony love, you are an interesting person here, I don’t know how to gauge your persona, but if this inquiry is honest here it goes. When a person procures any other service, the attachment is not the same as this business. If you really think about it, this is a spiritual connection, it’s a whole different level of feelings. A great orgasm is like an out of body experience, for a moment you lose sight of reality. Sex is in my opinion the most powerful force this world has to offer. I don’t get the same euphoria buying a tv lol, as I do when I orgasm with a female. It’s ingrained in a males dna. In fact I would dare say most males chase success to gain the attention of women. It’s beautiful because women have prospered greatly, at least the smart ones, because of this phenomenon.
Now I’m not saying it’s valid that women have to be extremely careful with their dealings with men, especially in this industry but it’s a fact of life and to not acknowledge that to me isn’t smart. You get great clients like me who truly understand what’s transpiring and takes it for what it is , but that is not always the case. Everyone isn’t emotionally ready for this and like I said earlier this pandemic has exacerbated the situation. Humans are social beings,all of this social distancing and avoiding people is not healthy for us because we were not created to be like that. No man ever should harm a woman and men should protect women, but just look at the incident that happened with the lady in the military as well as other stories and you’ll see what I’m saying. It isn’t fair, but I don’t make the rules and life isn’t fair.
Really read the ops words like really read it and you’ll understand what I’m saying, and you’ll understand the affect your Gfe has on some men. I feel for the op and I honestly respect his honesty and vulnerability, but if I was him I would really step back away from this hobby for a minute and do some self reflection. A many men have been taken to the brink of financial ruin dealing with women being this vulnerable. The lady did him a favor. She did her job, he misinterpreted it and she auto corrected it to protect herself and him. She’s the real mvp
Money never keeps a woman’s affection, it only rents it so you have to be cognicent of how much time you are renting and for your own sanity stay within those parameters. But what do I know. This is simply my opinion seasoned with a lot of experience. Happy hobbling.
Love this statement right here! Even within civvie dating/relationships....I've told guys
"Don't spoil me. Because I'll get used to that. And there will come a day when you will have to tell me No to something I have come to expect. You won't like me when that happens. So don't spoil me."
PsychologyToday Article
Men fall in love through SEX
Interesting
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This was one of the better thread reads I've come across. Lot's of great points from good hearted humans. I like that.
I've on several occasions found myself mystified, in longing, and with great admiration of the brand/persona/aura that a given provider is exuding/selling to me. Hook, line and sinker. I'm a "client" to these "services" for a reason.
But catching real feelings. No.
I've told one AWESOME provider (I hope she's reading this b/c she knows who she is) on several occasions that I love her ~~~~~ at the highest extent possibly allowed for a client/provider relationship. I'd honest to God drop everything at night and get her out of a jam or shitty situation of she'd ever call.
It's difficult for me to catch real strong feelings b/c I've gone through years and years of anti-simp social training and rejection conditioning.
Strangely I will admit that for some odd reason after 11 years of hobbying it would be a bit of an interesting twist to have a provider I'm comfortable with knowing my RW personal info and name. I've even at times fantasized about having it whispered back to me during sex.
Before I close I would like to mention that I do enjoy really good intense sex. Long good sessions where my member is performing at a high level. Stamina and girth levels on high. Penetrating the vagina with full length strokes and basking in her enjoyment..
True. It's part of our DNA to procreate as much as possible, it insures the survival of our genetic pool. Most male species have evolved to spread genetic material as much and as often as possible. Women on the other hand evolved, particularly among humans, to be very selective with partners. They are the ones who have to deal with a long pregnancy and a lifeform that isn't even remotely self sufficient for at least 12ish years of so, and the offspring fare best if they have two parents to help teach.
However, we all experience the release of powerful "love" hormones, like oxytocin, which is responsible for feelings of closeness, attachment, and romantic connection. Both men and women experience this surge of hormones upon orgasm and even upon simply touching one another in many cases (depending on attraction levels and compatibility).
Exactly. Great point. This is what I said earlier. You can't buy your way into love or a romantic relationship, and that goes for either gender. This is also true in regular civvie world, like Krystal mentioned. It's simply pay for play and if you try to buy your way into a "relationship" you are going to get hurt very likely.
Be careful, man or woman, not to confuse what you have when it comes to your sexual connection. Sometimes it can evolve into more, it surely can, but don't expect it on either end. Certainly you don't want to overextend yourself financially or emotionally trying to develop something that should not be or will not be. That doesn't mean all of them should not be or will not be, but it will be quite obvious to either gender. :thumb: :peace: GL!